For anyone doing the belt and pump

fatty5000 · 23-05-2007, 13:46

Had my belt done yesterday got the metal pump from gsf

This was on a 55k car which is a 53 plate

One piece broke off in my mates hand the other bit is gone in the engine somewhere pump.jpg

This is why you need a metal pump

HTH

Leeboy · 23-05-2007, 13:58

Although not in the league of vehicle recall, you'd think that VAG would have moved over to metal impeller design for genuine parts rather than continue with the plastic one. They could even justify a big price premium for the unsuspecting punter.

Lummox · 23-05-2007, 19:17

Careful if the rest of that is in the engine. They have a nasty habit of getting around to the thermostat and jamming it up.

fatty5000 · 23-05-2007, 20:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lummox

Careful if the rest of that is in the engine. They have a nasty habit of getting around to the thermostat and jamming it up.

Is there any way of getting it out now it's all back together

Tom_vRS · 24-05-2007, 15:52

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/gener...ght=Polo+water

Wayne Kerr · 02-06-2007, 10:11

Done mine yesterday ,,,,,,

martziniuk · 02-06-2007, 22:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne Kerr

Done mine yesterday ,,,,,,

How many miles /age on that pump Wayne?

Wayne Kerr · 03-06-2007, 11:10

62K, car's an 02.
It just fell apart when it was removed !!!!!!

***DGW*** · 03-06-2007, 11:21

Similar to my 02 4X4 at 18,738 miles and 4⅓ years.

Wayne Kerr · 03-06-2007, 11:25

Looks like it's age that counts, not mileage then.

cheezemonkhai · 03-06-2007, 12:05

That is shocking!

jason · 03-06-2007, 16:27

mad isn't it?

RobClubley · 04-06-2007, 23:47

I'm getting worried now. My car's three years old and 57,000km
Should I look at getting it changed soon?

Wayne Kerr · 05-06-2007, 08:14

Getting on for winter down there now ain't it.
Have a re-think when summer's on it's way.

Remember I didn't say this!

This message will self destruct in ,,,,,,,,,,,, !!!!!!!

morgan349 · 05-06-2007, 08:33

getting mine donw in a few weeks. Where is the best place to buy the metal impeller version? rumor has it that skoda have done a design change (changed the spec of the plastic) for a new version. Not sure i'd trust it though....the original should have been life tested. its terrible (and worrying)

Wayne Kerr · 05-06-2007, 08:53

Skoda want 35 squids for the "improved" version.
I got my "improved" version from GSF, 21 squids.

morgan349 · 05-06-2007, 09:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne Kerr

Skoda want 35 squids for the "improved" version.
I got my "improved" version from GSF, 21 squids.

the 'improved' versions - this is still the plastic impeller?

biomulv · 05-06-2007, 11:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by morgan349

the 'improved' versions - this is still the plastic impeller?

Skodas - yes , GSF etc, no - metal.

I had my Belt n pump done on the vRS yesterday. After all the paranoia the pump looks absolutely fine. Not sure what I should be looking for on the belt kit for wear tho?

( Oh I , cost £290 inc an oil change )

Wayne Kerr · 05-06-2007, 16:43

GSF used to do the metal ones, the new batch are plastic.

ethos · 05-06-2007, 23:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by biomulv

Skodas - yes , GSF etc, no - metal.

I had my Belt n pump done on the vRS yesterday. After all the paranoia the pump looks absolutely fine. Not sure what I should be looking for on the belt kit for wear tho?

( Oh I , cost £290 inc an oil change )

£290 for the belt / water pump and an oil change all in?

Good price, I just bought a 2001 vRS with 59k miles on the clock so gonna book it in, in the next couple of weeks!

pigfarmer99 · 11-06-2007, 18:09

I paid £260 for belt & pump - after it failed and RAC dragged car back.

Just change it.

Audi A3 in the garage at the same time with a pump (same engine etc.) that had broken, then seized, snapped the cam belt and put a valve through no.1 piston £2200

JPA · 11-06-2007, 19:43

Got some prices today for my 2003 vrs, for belt/water pump change, the prices varied wildly.
£450 from a skoda dealer for just the belt!! down to £280 from a VW dealer, but the VW dealer would not fit the pump with the metal impeller if I supplied it, so getting it done at another Skoda dealer for £300 all in with me supplying the pump

Also GSF in Birmingham only have the metal impeller type water pumps, the guy on the counter said he'd never seen a plastic type.

OCTAVIA2008 · 30-04-2008, 13:05

I work at gsf and have only seen the plastic ones!! But will look tommorrow to find out as I need one!! 65.000 miles no cambelt change yet - im scared!!
Will post gsf reference number here if I find a metal one.

Bodge · 30-04-2008, 15:49

i got my water pump from GSF back in october, and it had a brass impeller. i didnt even ask for metal specifically, it just was!

local skoda garage did it all for £270, and fitted the pump i supplied to them.

i never saw the old pump, but ive done over 10k since and all is well.

plastic is clearly the work of the devil!! devils cheese some may say....

ocdavia · 30-04-2008, 18:48

Ive had my cambelt and waterpump done today and was advised NOT to fit a metal impellar water pump as the bearings have a tendancy to go ond seize the pump, snapping the cambelt.At least if the plastic one goes all that will happen is that the engine will overheat,but at least you get some warning. I was shown the origional plastic impellared pump which had done at least 70 k and it was perfect, so they do last if you get the OE.The car actually feels much smoother now and quieter ( it may be because i had a new cat pipe fitted at the same time) but many thanks to RK Engineering in St Agnes for doing such a tidy job. All in £360 with belt ,rollers tensioner ,antifreeze change and exhaust fitting

23-05-2007, 13:46	#1
fatty5000 Why So Serious Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: "What" ...What ain't no god damn country Posts: 5,577 Members Car: a car Thanks: 272 Thanked 202 Times in 183 Posts	For anyone doing the belt and pump Had my belt done yesterday got the metal pump from gsf This was on a 55k car which is a 53 plate One piece broke off in my mates hand the other bit is gone in the engine somewhere pump.jpg This is why you need a metal pump HTH __________________

23-05-2007, 13:58	#2
Leeboy Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Hampshire Posts: 1,176 Members Car: Superb TDI (Octy vRS in storage) Thanks: 11 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts	Re: For anyone doing the belt and pump Although not in the league of vehicle recall, you'd think that VAG would have moved over to metal impeller design for genuine parts rather than continue with the plastic one. They could even justify a big price premium for the unsuspecting punter. __________________ Lee Want to be carbon-neutral while driving? Hold your breath!

23-05-2007, 19:17	#3
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,476 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 758 Times in 636 Posts	Re: For anyone doing the belt and pump Careful if the rest of that is in the engine. They have a nasty habit of getting around to the thermostat and jamming it up. __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

24-05-2007, 15:52	#5
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03-06-2007, 11:10	#8
Wayne Kerr Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NW Kent Posts: 936 Members Car: Metalic Black 1.8T 4x4 Estate Thanks: 9 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: For anyone doing the belt and pump 62K, car's an 02. It just fell apart when it was removed *!!!!!!* __________________ Deli G ,,,, leader of the Peckham Massif! KW Coilovers fitted, Forge TIP fitted, KK fitted, Blueflame full system fitted, CAI fitted, Forge 007 D/V fitted, PBVH4 fitted, Forge adjustable rear tie bars fitted, FMIC fitted, 312's fitted, Tints fitted. Was that a 4x4 Skoda??? It's IMPOSSIBLE! 197.2 BHP & 263.1Nm

03-06-2007, 11:21	#9
*DGW* BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambridgeshire Posts: 17,300 Members Car: Octavia 1.8T 4X4 Estate & Fabia vRS Thanks: 51 Thanked 208 Times in 157 Posts	Re: For anyone doing the belt and pump Similar to my 02 4X4 at 18,738 miles and 4⅓ years. __________________ Denis 2002 Octavia 1.8T 4X4 turbo Estate - rebreathed on by Jabba ... 31.93mpg 2007 Fabia vRS - CC, ESP and full leather trim by Seat Surgeons ...48.57 mpg...

03-06-2007, 11:25	#10
Wayne Kerr Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NW Kent Posts: 936 Members Car: Metalic Black 1.8T 4x4 Estate Thanks: 9 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: For anyone doing the belt and pump Looks like it's age that counts, not mileage then. __________________ Deli G ,,,, leader of the Peckham Massif! KW Coilovers fitted, Forge TIP fitted, KK fitted, Blueflame full system fitted, CAI fitted, Forge 007 D/V fitted, PBVH4 fitted, Forge adjustable rear tie bars fitted, FMIC fitted, 312's fitted, Tints fitted. Was that a 4x4 Skoda??? It's IMPOSSIBLE! 197.2 BHP & 263.1Nm

03-06-2007, 12:05	#11
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03-06-2007, 16:27	#12
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04-06-2007, 23:47	#13
RobClubley Midnight Mod! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Aotearoa - land of the long white cloud Posts: 7,037 Members Car: 2004 Octavia vRS Estate Images: 1 Thanks: 155 Thanked 161 Times in 134 Posts	Re: For anyone doing the belt and pump I'm getting worried now. My car's three years old and 57,000km Should I look at getting it changed soon? __________________ Corrida Red 2004 Octavia vRS Estate - It's the bestest Skoda in New Zealand! Whaia te mātauranga, whaia te māramatanga - Pursue knowledge, pursue the wisdom of knowledge www.pimpmyskoda.co.uk www.clubley.org Facebook

05-06-2007, 08:14	#14
Wayne Kerr Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NW Kent Posts: 936 Members Car: Metalic Black 1.8T 4x4 Estate Thanks: 9 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: For anyone doing the belt and pump Getting on for winter down there now ain't it. Have a re-think when summer's on it's way. Remember I didn't say this! This message will self destruct in ,,,,,,,,,,,, !!!!!!! __________________ Deli G ,,,, leader of the Peckham Massif! KW Coilovers fitted, Forge TIP fitted, KK fitted, Blueflame full system fitted, CAI fitted, Forge 007 D/V fitted, PBVH4 fitted, Forge adjustable rear tie bars fitted, FMIC fitted, 312's fitted, Tints fitted. Was that a 4x4 Skoda??? It's IMPOSSIBLE! 197.2 BHP & 263.1Nm Last edited by Wayne Kerr; 05-06-2007 at 08:51. Reason: spellink !!!

05-06-2007, 08:33	#15
morgan349 Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 27 Members Car: Octy vRS Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: For anyone doing the belt and pump getting mine donw in a few weeks. Where is the best place to buy the metal impeller version? rumor has it that skoda have done a design change (changed the spec of the plastic) for a new version. Not sure i'd trust it though....the original should have been life tested. its terrible (and worrying)

05-06-2007, 08:53	#16
Wayne Kerr Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NW Kent Posts: 936 Members Car: Metalic Black 1.8T 4x4 Estate Thanks: 9 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: For anyone doing the belt and pump Skoda want 35 squids for the "improved" version. I got my "improved" version from GSF, 21 squids. __________________ Deli G ,,,, leader of the Peckham Massif! KW Coilovers fitted, Forge TIP fitted, KK fitted, Blueflame full system fitted, CAI fitted, Forge 007 D/V fitted, PBVH4 fitted, Forge adjustable rear tie bars fitted, FMIC fitted, 312's fitted, Tints fitted. Was that a 4x4 Skoda??? It's IMPOSSIBLE! 197.2 BHP & 263.1Nm

05-06-2007, 16:43	#19
Wayne Kerr Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NW Kent Posts: 936 Members Car: Metalic Black 1.8T 4x4 Estate Thanks: 9 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: For anyone doing the belt and pump GSF used to do the metal ones, the new batch are plastic. __________________ Deli G ,,,, leader of the Peckham Massif! KW Coilovers fitted, Forge TIP fitted, KK fitted, Blueflame full system fitted, CAI fitted, Forge 007 D/V fitted, PBVH4 fitted, Forge adjustable rear tie bars fitted, FMIC fitted, 312's fitted, Tints fitted. Was that a 4x4 Skoda??? It's IMPOSSIBLE! 197.2 BHP & 263.1Nm

11-06-2007, 18:09	#21
pigfarmer99 Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Down yer in Darzet. Posts: 43 Members Car: Red and dusty Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: For anyone doing the belt and pump I paid £260 for belt & pump - after it failed and RAC dragged car back. Just change it. Audi A3 in the garage at the same time with a pump (same engine etc.) that had broken, then seized, snapped the cam belt and put a valve through no.1 piston £2200

11-06-2007, 19:43	#22
JPA Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 8 Members Car: Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: For anyone doing the belt and pump Got some prices today for my 2003 vrs, for belt/water pump change, the prices varied wildly. £450 from a skoda dealer for just the belt!! down to £280 from a VW dealer, but the VW dealer would not fit the pump with the metal impeller if I supplied it, so getting it done at another Skoda dealer for £300 all in with me supplying the pump Also GSF in Birmingham only have the metal impeller type water pumps, the guy on the counter said he'd never seen a plastic type.

30-04-2008, 13:05	#23
OCTAVIA2008 Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: MARCH Posts: 29 Members Car: SKODA OCTAVIA 2.0 WITH 18" RS4 ALLOYS Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: For anyone doing the belt and pump I work at gsf and have only seen the plastic ones!! But will look tommorrow to find out as I need one!! 65.000 miles no cambelt change yet - im scared!! Will post gsf reference number here if I find a metal one.

30-04-2008, 15:49	#24
Bodge Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: England Posts: 889 Members Car: '02 Octavia RS Thanks: 123 Thanked 74 Times in 70 Posts	Re: For anyone doing the belt and pump i got my water pump from GSF back in october, and it had a brass impeller. i didnt even ask for metal specifically, it just was! local skoda garage did it all for £270, and fitted the pump i supplied to them. i never saw the old pump, but ive done over 10k since and all is well. plastic is clearly the work of the devil!! devils cheese some may say.... __________________ Diamond Silver '02 Octavia vRS hatch

30-04-2008, 18:48	#25
ocdavia Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: redruth cornwall Posts: 168 Members Car: octavia 1.9 tdi ambiente Thanks: 60 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts	Re: For anyone doing the belt and pump Ive had my cambelt and waterpump done today and was advised NOT to fit a metal impellar water pump as the bearings have a tendancy to go ond seize the pump, snapping the cambelt.At least if the plastic one goes all that will happen is that the engine will overheat,but at least you get some warning. I was shown the origional plastic impellared pump which had done at least 70 k and it was perfect, so they do last if you get the OE.The car actually feels much smoother now and quieter ( it may be because i had a new cat pipe fitted at the same time) but many thanks to RK Engineering in St Agnes for doing such a tidy job. All in £360 with belt ,rollers tensioner ,antifreeze change and exhaust fitting __________________ diamond silver octavia,tuning box, pipercross air filter,mak 17 alloys, color coded bumper inserts and rubbing strips,aero wipers

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