Fitted a Skoda detachable towbar to my RS

flynntech · 18-09-2006, 08:26

Well I bought EEA60001 - Skoda's detachable towbar and fitted it to my RS yesterday. It fitted like a glove. No cutting of the bumper required and when not in use is hidden away. This is a top quality piece of kit. I'll never go aftermarket again after fitting this one.

I didnt do the elctrics as the Skoda kit was very expensive so I'll be buying a trailor socket and relay bar and fitting it next week.

gilesme · 18-09-2006, 15:26

Go on....how many bits were left over after re-assembly ?

flynntech · 18-09-2006, 15:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by gilesme

Go on....how many bits were left over after re-assembly ?

Nowt but a rear bulb blew on me today. Coincidence i wonder .........

**GAFF** · 18-09-2006, 23:19

Fair play to ya...does it bolt into the side from underneath the car ? (I see 4 holes, 2 on each side).
How does the trailor socket and relay bar differ from the Skoda set up ?

a-rai · 19-09-2006, 01:06

Hello Flynntech,

What were the prices for the towbar and the electrics?

Alan

flynntech · 19-09-2006, 07:50

You have to remove the rear bumper bar. Then the towbar slots into the chassis and is bolted either side.

The towbar was 225 euro + 21% vat (managed a 10% discount). So 240 euro in total. The electrics were about the same price so I didnt take them. I can get a trailor socket for 10 euro and a relay bar for 40 euro which will do the same thing. All in all I should be done for around 300 euro. Whats that about 200 GBP?

Thing is if i went aftermarket and got it fitted by a "specialist" they wanted 350 euro for a standard swan neck and a butchered bumper.

This disappears totally when not in use. Top class job!

a-rai · 19-09-2006, 11:39

Hello Flynntech,

Thanks for the info

Alan

uncle bulgaria · 24-09-2006, 17:02

Hi Flynntech, sorry if this is a pain, but any photos of the bar with everything back in place? Are the electric sockets visible or do they fold out of the way when the tow ball is detached?

Our Dealer has offered to do me "a deal" on the parts, with a similar propositon, I ft the bar & they will sort out a the electrics! However I don't want to order the bar if I have to do "any" cutting of the bumper! I know it sounds petty, but I don't want any visible evedence when not in use!

bpm · 24-09-2006, 20:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by uncle bulgaria

Hi Flynntech, sorry if this is a pain, but any photos of the bar with everything back in place? Are the electric sockets visible or do they fold out of the way when the tow ball is detached?

Our Dealer has offered to do me "a deal" on the parts, with a similar propositon, I ft the bar & they will sort out a the electrics! However I don't want to order the bar if I have to do "any" cutting of the bumper! I know it sounds petty, but I don't want any visible evedence when not in use!

I was just about to ask that...

flynntech · 25-09-2006, 08:09

I meant to take pics of the finished article but havent got around to doing the electrics yet. This towbar was MADE to fit the RS. Absolutely no cutting and it totally disappears. The electrics fold away as well.

If you have a non RS then I would think a small slot needs to be cut but again would not be visible when detached.

uncle bulgaria · 25-09-2006, 13:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by flynntech

I meant to take pics of the finished article but havent got around to doing the electrics yet. This towbar was MADE to fit the RS. Absolutely no cutting and it totally disappears. The electrics fold away as well.

If you have a non RS then I would think a small slot needs to be cut but again would not be visible when detached.

Thanks for the confirmation

I have vRS, but neither the dealer or Skoda Technical could confirm that there didn't need to be some cutting, I will now be ordering it tomorrow. Can you point out where the bumper fixings are, how many & and what boot trim etc I will need to remove? I fitted the bar to my last car, but didn't have to remove a thing to do it! I am guessing from your photos that it's a little more involved

, but am hoping that it's still not beyond me

!

flynntech · 25-09-2006, 15:10

I took a chance ordering it as the dealer or Skoda Technical could not confirm if there was cutting involved or not.

To remove the bumper there are torx screws in the wheel arches and underneath, inside the rear lights and 2 10mm bolts either side of the rear quater panels. Just pull out the carpets as I did to get at them.

The rear bumper bar needs to be removed to fit the towbar into the rear chassis rails too. Thie torx holding this on were caked in sealent that needed to be removed before the bolts holding it on.

While I was at it I removed the stupid "compartment" on the right hand side of the boot compartment . After about 3 days this was starting to come apart as it did in my 05TDI. A couple of blows of a hammer and it was removed. Much neater boot area now

uncle bulgaria · 25-09-2006, 19:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by flynntech

I took a chance ordering it as the dealer or Skoda Technical could not confirm if there was cutting involved or not.

To remove the bumper there are torx screws in the wheel arches and underneath, inside the rear lights and 2 10mm bolts either side of the rear quater panels. Just pull out the carpets as I did to get at them.

The rear bumper bar needs to be removed to fit the towbar into the rear chassis rails too. Thie torx holding this on were caked in sealent that needed to be removed before the bolts holding it on.

While I was at it I removed the stupid "compartment" on the right hand side of the boot compartment . After about 3 days this was starting to come apart as it did in my 05TDI. A couple of blows of a hammer and it was removed. Much neater boot area now

Thanks Flynntech, much appreciated! I managed to get a bit of discount off all the parts, and a much lower billo for labour as they are only fitting the electrics. All in all this has worked out about the same as having a decent aftermarket bar fitted, but just looks sooooo much better!

Thanks again

uncle bulgaria · 04-10-2006, 17:54

All the towbar parts turned up last week, but another discussion with the dealer went as follows:

Me: I am happy to fit the tow bar, but want you to fit the electrics for £150 as agreed

Service Manager: Look don't bother doing the bar as we are going to take the bumper off anyway to do the electrics. We will do the lot for £150

Me: Sound!

Took my car in today at 8.30am, got a phone call at 2.30pm.

Service Manager: Got a problem. Don't think we can do this for the £150 I quoted as it's going to take 6 - 8 hours work. (long prattle about Volvo wiring looms from days of old & having to run 2 Skoda looms to the front of the car) I'm going to need another £100

Me: Hang on I spoke to several other main dealers before taking up your offer and they told me that Skoda "book it" at 4 1/2 hours labour, so how come I have to pay for 6hours plus?!

Service Manager: Ah but did they give you a price (long prattle about overheads, (Sob Sob))

Me: Not happy about this, I would have gone to another dealer if this had been what you had told me as this is no cheaper than anywhere else, even with my "loyalty discount"!

Service Manger: Ok well I'll do it for 4 1/2 hours labour. Oh but i doubt it will be ready today.

Me: Hang on thats another £50 above your quote...... I guess I will SEE YOU tomorrow!

(put the phone down!)

So I guess the moral of this story is "a fixed price is only a "quote" of a "fixed price"" & "If I offer you too good a discount (to get you through the doors) you can expect to pay the full price by the time I'm done!" Oh & don't expect your car back on time either!!!

It was this sort of practice (quoting you a discounted "fixed price" for routine work, then ending up having to pay the full price, because "it took longer than we estimated") that moved me away from a VW dealer a few years ago. Strange how it's the same service manager!!!! I am beginning to feel the need to find another dealer

flynntech · 05-10-2006, 09:13

It is fairly labour intensive but I'd have no problem doing another one. I did the electrics at the weekend. I bought a relay box and trailor socket and connected it all up. Fairly simple if you are comfortable with electrics.

Come over to Eire and I'll fit them for ye :-) !!

a-rai · 05-10-2006, 12:02

Hello Gents,

I'm collecting my new Octavia L&K in a couple of weeks

I intend fitting a towbar so have been doing a lot of checking up. The Skoda supplied detachable bar is made by Westfalia.

I picked one up from eBay for £150 including carriage and a 7 pin electrical kit from Towequipe.co.uk Don't intend using the lecky kit - although it's all there it is a bit Heath Robinson

I plan on getting the 13 pin kit from my local Skoda dealer - or I will if the parts department ever answer the phone

Price should be £180 including VAT.

Quoted time for fitting towbar and electrics is 45 minutes each on the Westfalia website Westfalia-Automotive GmbH & Co. KG ie. 1.5 hours the lot

Must admit that is probably being very optimistic - Westfalia are in the business of selling towbars after all

But 4.5 hours should surely be about the maximum time.

Towequipe give a list of local fitters so I'll probably go to one of them as long as the price seems reasonable.

Alan

uncle bulgaria · 05-10-2006, 18:20

Just got my car back, some good news and some bad!

On the plus side, the bar is exactly what I wanted! No sign of it at all when detached & it seems simple enough to set up, even if you do get wet knees in this weather!

Very pleased with the electics too. However there were 2 complete looms which have to be run the full length of the car and connect ito the existing loom/"box" under the bonnet, hence the time as loads of interior trim had, apparently, to be removed.

Thats where the bad news is; as I found half a dozen broken bits off the interior trim, in the boot and in the rear footwells!

I think that in an effort to keep costs down our local dealer has done a very shoddy job of fitting the electrics. Needles to say I am holding them to replacing all the trim that they damaged!! So there will be yet another return journey!

Next worry is making sure that when I connect the trailer electrics, nothing blows!!

Knowing my luck I'll be back to the dealers again for that!

PJ0 · 05-10-2006, 21:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by a-rai

Hello Gents,

I'm collecting my new Octavia L&K in a couple of weeks

I intend fitting a towbar so have been doing a lot of checking up. The Skoda supplied detachable bar is made by Westfalia.

I picked one up from eBay for £150 including carriage and a 7 pin electrical kit from Towequipe.co.uk Don't intend using the lecky kit - although it's all there it is a bit Heath Robinson

I plan on getting the 13 pin kit from my local Skoda dealer - or I will if the parts department ever answer the phone

Price should be £180 including VAT.

Quoted time for fitting towbar and electrics is 45 minutes each on the Westfalia website Westfalia-Automotive GmbH & Co. KG ie. 1.5 hours the lot

Must admit that is probably being very optimistic - Westfalia are in the business of selling towbars after all

But 4.5 hours should surely be about the maximum time.

Towequipe give a list of local fitters so I'll probably go to one of them as long as the price seems reasonable.

Alan

Guys,
I've had the detachable wetfalia on my octy II Elegance and total cost for supply and fit was £267. This was done by a reputable local garage (specialising in auto electrics and tow bars)
It took them ~ 5 hours and there was no sign of trim damage.
Did go for only single electrics because they quoted £367 for twin (I guess mainly due to extra labour and complexity of wiring as opposed to parts cost)
Anyway, pleased with the job, tow bar and (touch wood) no issues with the electrics. Only little niggle is that the tow ball is quite close to the bumper when fitted and with no bumper protector... well lots of care req

Phil

uncle bulgaria · 06-10-2006, 07:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by PJ0

Only little niggle is that the tow ball is quite close to the bumper when fitted and with no bumper protector... well lots of care req

Phil

Yeah, I noticed that too! SWMBO had better get practicing her hand signals

!

mdk1 · 07-10-2006, 06:23

Have a Witter on mine, Fixed so a hole cut in the Bumper but very neet, also have a Alko towball so room for a bumper protector. All in fitted price £260

stroker1 · 11-08-2007, 23:45

'WHAT THE.....' - Sorry guys, but i find the whole situation of time schedules, shoddy workmanship and blatant abuse of our beloved vehicles by so-called 'SPECIALISTS' top be somewhat of a travesty!!

INDESPENSION trailers, of whom i have every trust in, supplied & fitted my detachable with single electrics in less than '3' hours. There were NO holes to be cut - no senseless wiring and a job well done in my opinion. £280 all-in with single electrics.
Cannot find the details on the Indespension website, but here's the nearest to it..... GDW Detach Towbar Skoda octavia Hat 04>> SK9291: SK9291 Towequipe - UK's best value towbar store

flynntech · 16-04-2008, 20:42

Just updating this thread with the fitted towbar pics

**GAFF** · 16-04-2008, 22:16

ice work,very tidy job

Btw nice pate

unsponsored · 22-04-2008, 18:18

Flynntech what electrics did you purchase? Do you have a make/model number?

Anymore blown bulbs?

flynntech · 22-04-2008, 19:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by unsponsored

Flynntech what electrics did you purchase? Do you have a make/model number?

Anymore blown bulbs?

Bought an aftermarket kit. Works 100%. No more blown bulbs. The blown bulb that I experienced before was definately due to manhandling the bulb when I had the rear lights out.

18-09-2006, 08:26	#1
flynntech Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Eire Posts: 407 Members Car: Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Fitted a Skoda detachable towbar to my RS Well I bought EEA60001 - Skoda's detachable towbar and fitted it to my RS yesterday. It fitted like a glove. No cutting of the bumper required and when not in use is hidden away. This is a top quality piece of kit. I'll never go aftermarket again after fitting this one. I didnt do the elctrics as the Skoda kit was very expensive so I'll be buying a trailor socket and relay bar and fitting it next week. __________________ VAGdrivers.net - Ireland's online VAG community

18-09-2006, 15:26	#2
gilesme Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 80 Members Car: Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Fitted a Skoda detachable towbar to my RS Go on....how many bits were left over after re-assembly ?

18-09-2006, 23:19	#4
GAFF Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 5,908 Members Car: Octavia II vRS Thanks: 29 Thanked 71 Times in 69 Posts	Re: Fitted a Skoda detachable towbar to my RS Fair play to ya...does it bolt into the side from underneath the car ? (I see 4 holes, 2 on each side). How does the trailor socket and relay bar differ from the Skoda set up ? __________________ GAFF Briskoda Ireland Events, Meets & Pictures.....Race Blue Octavia MkII vRS.....Old Octavia MkI vRS

19-09-2006, 01:06	#5
a-rai Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cornwall Posts: 13 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Fitted a Skoda detachable towbar to my RS Hello Flynntech, What were the prices for the towbar and the electrics? Alan

19-09-2006, 07:50	#6
flynntech Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Eire Posts: 407 Members Car: Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Fitted a Skoda detachable towbar to my RS You have to remove the rear bumper bar. Then the towbar slots into the chassis and is bolted either side. The towbar was 225 euro + 21% vat (managed a 10% discount). So 240 euro in total. The electrics were about the same price so I didnt take them. I can get a trailor socket for 10 euro and a relay bar for 40 euro which will do the same thing. All in all I should be done for around 300 euro. Whats that about 200 GBP? Thing is if i went aftermarket and got it fitted by a "specialist" they wanted 350 euro for a standard swan neck and a butchered bumper. This disappears totally when not in use. Top class job! __________________ VAGdrivers.net - Ireland's online VAG community

19-09-2006, 11:39	#7
a-rai Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cornwall Posts: 13 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Fitted a Skoda detachable towbar to my RS Hello Flynntech, Thanks for the info Alan

24-09-2006, 17:02	#8
uncle bulgaria Briskodian Join Date: May 2006 Location: S Yorks Posts: 339 Members Car: Standard Octavia II vRS Thanks: 9 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Fitted a Skoda detachable towbar to my RS Hi Flynntech, sorry if this is a pain, but any photos of the bar with everything back in place? Are the electric sockets visible or do they fold out of the way when the tow ball is detached? Our Dealer has offered to do me "a deal" on the parts, with a similar propositon, I ft the bar & they will sort out a the electrics! However I don't want to order the bar if I have to do "any" cutting of the bumper! I know it sounds petty, but I don't want any visible evedence when not in use!

25-09-2006, 08:09	#10
flynntech Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Eire Posts: 407 Members Car: Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Fitted a Skoda detachable towbar to my RS I meant to take pics of the finished article but havent got around to doing the electrics yet. This towbar was MADE to fit the RS. Absolutely no cutting and it totally disappears. The electrics fold away as well. If you have a non RS then I would think a small slot needs to be cut but again would not be visible when detached. __________________ VAGdrivers.net - Ireland's online VAG community

25-09-2006, 15:10	#12
flynntech Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Eire Posts: 407 Members Car: Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Fitted a Skoda detachable towbar to my RS I took a chance ordering it as the dealer or Skoda Technical could not confirm if there was cutting involved or not. To remove the bumper there are torx screws in the wheel arches and underneath, inside the rear lights and 2 10mm bolts either side of the rear quater panels. Just pull out the carpets as I did to get at them. The rear bumper bar needs to be removed to fit the towbar into the rear chassis rails too. Thie torx holding this on were caked in sealent that needed to be removed before the bolts holding it on. While I was at it I removed the stupid "compartment" on the right hand side of the boot compartment . After about 3 days this was starting to come apart as it did in my 05TDI. A couple of blows of a hammer and it was removed. Much neater boot area now __________________ VAGdrivers.net - Ireland's online VAG community

04-10-2006, 17:54	#14
uncle bulgaria Briskodian Join Date: May 2006 Location: S Yorks Posts: 339 Members Car: Standard Octavia II vRS Thanks: 9 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Fitted a Skoda detachable towbar to my RS All the towbar parts turned up last week, but another discussion with the dealer went as follows: Me: I am happy to fit the tow bar, but want you to fit the electrics for £150 as agreed Service Manager: Look don't bother doing the bar as we are going to take the bumper off anyway to do the electrics. We will do the lot for £150 Me: Sound! Took my car in today at 8.30am, got a phone call at 2.30pm. Service Manager: Got a problem. Don't think we can do this for the £150 I quoted as it's going to take 6 - 8 hours work. (long prattle about Volvo wiring looms from days of old & having to run 2 Skoda looms to the front of the car) I'm going to need another £100 Me: Hang on I spoke to several other main dealers before taking up your offer and they told me that Skoda "book it" at 4 1/2 hours labour, so how come I have to pay for 6hours plus?! Service Manager: Ah but did they give you a price (long prattle about overheads, (Sob Sob)) Me: Not happy about this, I would have gone to another dealer if this had been what you had told me as this is no cheaper than anywhere else, even with my "loyalty discount"! Service Manger: Ok well I'll do it for 4 1/2 hours labour. Oh but i doubt it will be ready today. Me: Hang on thats another £50 above your quote...... I guess I will SEE YOU tomorrow! (put the phone down!) So I guess the moral of this story is "a fixed price is only a "quote" of a "fixed price"" & "If I offer you too good a discount (to get you through the doors) you can expect to pay the full price by the time I'm done!" Oh & don't expect your car back on time either!!! It was this sort of practice (quoting you a discounted "fixed price" for routine work, then ending up having to pay the full price, because "it took longer than we estimated") that moved me away from a VW dealer a few years ago. Strange how it's the same service manager!!!! I am beginning to feel the need to find another dealer

05-10-2006, 09:13	#15
flynntech Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Eire Posts: 407 Members Car: Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Fitted a Skoda detachable towbar to my RS It is fairly labour intensive but I'd have no problem doing another one. I did the electrics at the weekend. I bought a relay box and trailor socket and connected it all up. Fairly simple if you are comfortable with electrics. Come over to Eire and I'll fit them for ye :-) !! __________________ VAGdrivers.net - Ireland's online VAG community

05-10-2006, 12:02	#16
a-rai Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cornwall Posts: 13 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Fitted a Skoda detachable towbar to my RS Hello Gents, I'm collecting my new Octavia L&K in a couple of weeks I intend fitting a towbar so have been doing a lot of checking up. The Skoda supplied detachable bar is made by Westfalia. I picked one up from eBay for £150 including carriage and a 7 pin electrical kit from Towequipe.co.uk Don't intend using the lecky kit - although it's all there it is a bit Heath Robinson I plan on getting the 13 pin kit from my local Skoda dealer - or I will if the parts department ever answer the phone Price should be £180 including VAT. Quoted time for fitting towbar and electrics is 45 minutes each on the Westfalia website Westfalia-Automotive GmbH & Co. KG ie. 1.5 hours the lot Must admit that is probably being very optimistic - Westfalia are in the business of selling towbars after all But 4.5 hours should surely be about the maximum time. Towequipe give a list of local fitters so I'll probably go to one of them as long as the price seems reasonable. Alan

05-10-2006, 18:20	#17
uncle bulgaria Briskodian Join Date: May 2006 Location: S Yorks Posts: 339 Members Car: Standard Octavia II vRS Thanks: 9 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Fitted a Skoda detachable towbar to my RS Just got my car back, some good news and some bad! On the plus side, the bar is exactly what I wanted! No sign of it at all when detached & it seems simple enough to set up, even if you do get wet knees in this weather! Very pleased with the electics too. However there were 2 complete looms which have to be run the full length of the car and connect ito the existing loom/"box" under the bonnet, hence the time as loads of interior trim had, apparently, to be removed. Thats where the bad news is; as I found half a dozen broken bits off the interior trim, in the boot and in the rear footwells! I think that in an effort to keep costs down our local dealer has done a very shoddy job of fitting the electrics. Needles to say I am holding them to replacing all the trim that they damaged!! So there will be yet another return journey! Next worry is making sure that when I connect the trailer electrics, nothing blows!! Knowing my luck I'll be back to the dealers again for that!

07-10-2006, 06:23	#20
mdk1 go green Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Rochester, Kent Posts: 4,176 Members Car: Roomy 3 & Fabia Thanks: 166 Thanked 133 Times in 117 Posts	Re: Fitted a Skoda detachable towbar to my RS Have a Witter on mine, Fixed so a hole cut in the Bumper but very neet, also have a Alko towball so room for a bumper protector. All in fitted price £260 __________________ Mike. Mine Skoda Roomster 3 TDI in matallic Anthracite Grey MKLJK Swmbo's Skoda Fabia 2.0I Elegance in Dark matallic Blue MKLJK

11-08-2007, 23:45	#21
stroker1 Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 71 Members Car: Octavia Vrs 2.0Tdi PD - Race Blue. Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Fitted a Skoda detachable towbar to my RS 'WHAT THE.....' - Sorry guys, but i find the whole situation of time schedules, shoddy workmanship and blatant abuse of our beloved vehicles by so-called 'SPECIALISTS' top be somewhat of a travesty!! INDESPENSION trailers, of whom i have every trust in, supplied & fitted my detachable with single electrics in less than '3' hours. There were NO holes to be cut - no senseless wiring and a job well done in my opinion. £280 all-in with single electrics. Cannot find the details on the Indespension website, but here's the nearest to it..... GDW Detach Towbar Skoda octavia Hat 04>> SK9291: SK9291 Towequipe - UK's best value towbar store __________________ 'DRIVE IT LIKE IT'S SOMEONE ELSE'S FUEL' ! (Skoda Octavia Vrs 2.0 Tdi PD - Race Blue.)

16-04-2008, 20:42	#22
flynntech Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Eire Posts: 407 Members Car: Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Fitted a Skoda detachable towbar to my RS Just updating this thread with the fitted towbar pics __________________ VAGdrivers.net - Ireland's online VAG community

16-04-2008, 22:16	#23
GAFF Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 5,908 Members Car: Octavia II vRS Thanks: 29 Thanked 71 Times in 69 Posts	Re: Fitted a Skoda detachable towbar to my RS ice work,very tidy job Btw nice pate __________________ GAFF Briskoda Ireland Events, Meets & Pictures.....Race Blue Octavia MkII vRS.....Old Octavia MkI vRS

22-04-2008, 18:18	#24
unsponsored Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 21 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Fitted a Skoda detachable towbar to my RS Flynntech what electrics did you purchase? Do you have a make/model number? Anymore blown bulbs?