Door Lock Malfuntion? Maybe this cure your problemo

Turbo_Boss · 09-10-2006, 21:43

I have read many times here and in some other VAG forums that sometimes one of the doorlock dont want to open or stop working.

Usually Symptoms: Door(s) fail to respond normally to lock/unlock signals. In several cases, sending a lock signal via remote locks all but one door.

Usually the problem is a cracked solder joint inside the door lock servo/solenoid unit.

I recomend you to read this info that explain how to fix this problemo

taligentx.com: Passat - Door Lock Mechanism Repair

Here are some pics that you will find in that site.

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Hope this info help you guys,

Isaac

***DGW*** · 09-10-2006, 21:55

Nice find, Isaac. Now all we need is for one of our members who has replaced a similar part, and kept the old one, to have a look and see if this fault is present.

Turbo_Boss · 30-10-2006, 05:44

I got two damage door locks from friends that have replace this part on his Skodas.
Eaven that they put new ones, I decide to open them just for fun to see what I find.

My look was that I got 2 parts so I can compare them

One of the door locks have a plastic lever broke that alow to this part to move from his working positio making the door lock to jam. This Lever work in conjuntion with some parts to make the deadlock work.

Here is a pic of a lever in good condition:

Isaac

Turbo_Boss · 30-10-2006, 05:47

So one of the Door Locks have a plastic lever broke inside. The other one have a mechanical damage that make that when you pull the door handle from the inside make the door handle to remain in the open position......... Its does not get back to his close position, you have to push it. I check the door lock part for this problem and found the metal lever that stick on the open position but for more than I try I can not find out what is the problem..............

For more pics on the Skodas unasembled Door Locks, check my gallery:

Skoda Door Locks Images

Isaac

**TaviaRS** · 30-10-2006, 08:38

I'll have a look at mine later. I think it was a sensor or microswith that led it to believe the door was still open. So, probably just the solder. Why you not tell me all this 2 weeks ago before I spent £85 on a new lock?

Turbo_Boss · 30-10-2006, 15:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaviaRS

I'll have a look at mine later. I think it was a sensor or microswith that led it to believe the door was still open. So, probably just the solder. Why you not tell me all this 2 weeks ago before I spent £85 on a new lock?

Ohhh men, I am sorry that you dont see this post before. The firts one was posted on 09-10-2006 and I just got the 2 door lock this satuarday 28 and the autopsy was done sunday night

But been honestly, I will say is a little pain in the a$$ to disasemble does door locks. I recomend you to take your time and take plenty of pictures before you disasemble yours in order to have them for reference

My pictures help me a lot. So you can use them as reference but is a good idea to take yours so you can share what you find

Good luck,

Isaac

Turbo_Boss · 30-10-2006, 15:37

Check these pictures so you can test your door light microswitch without disasemble your door lock.You will only need a volmeter

Then you can decide if you need to open for checking solder points or just open it for fun

Isaac

Wayne Kerr · 30-11-2006, 21:46

Turbo_Boss, are these the joints that can fail causing the door open indicator to fail? http://www.briskoda.net/forums/attac...-door-lock.jpg

Goochie · 29-01-2007, 14:11

Turbo_boss are you able to answer the question above?

Turbo_Boss · 06-02-2007, 01:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goochie

Turbo_boss are you able to answer the question above?

Hello Guys, sorry for my late reply. I was traveling out of the country

Does solder joins indicated with the arrow are the ones that belong to the microswith that indicate if the door is open or close. I will say that your problem is the microswitch itself that is damage and is not making good contac.

If you check the pictures above, the arrow show you a RED and BLUE wires that are soldered to the PC board and on the other end of these wires is a microswitch. If the microswith is damage then you know were is your problemo.

The only way you can test this is will a volmeter.

Here is a pic were is located the microswitch that controls the door open indicator on the dash.

Isaac

Foxy · 12-02-2007, 21:28

Guys - my 2004 Octavia Estate driver's door doesn't tell the car that it's open !

So, if I unlock the car and open the driver's door, the car auto-locks soon after.

Also - the courtesy light extinguishes even with the door ajar.

Any ideas guys?
MTIA

Turbo_Boss · 13-02-2007, 01:20

If it only do it with the drivers door it mean that the micro switch is damage. Check my pics. Its possible to change the microswitch but you need to remove the completely door lock unit to do it.

Isaac

Goochie · 13-02-2007, 09:01

Bengie has had this problem for some time and recently purchased a new lock assembly for the thick end of £100.

However, this has not fixed his problem

Foxy - how many miles has your car done?

Bengie, Wanye Kerr and Myself all have this issue on cars with 80k+ (ish) miles.

Foxy · 13-02-2007, 09:53

Done just 20k - was my dads car and i reckon its been like this from new!!!!!

Time to fish out the multimeter........

Mil · 13-02-2007, 14:55

Not respond?/ I had a situation once where my car was switched on, keys in ignitions, and I shut the door from outside to smoke a cigarette...when I was done I couldn't get back in, it locked on its own. And it did a few times more til I got it sorted!

Foxy · 14-02-2007, 01:42

It gets worse............neither driver or front passenger door open are acknowledged by the interior lights or locking !!

The fecking rear doors are though !!!

Work THAT one out !!!!!

Lfd · 06-03-2008, 15:31

Turbo boss don't suppose you have a pic of the door barrel & which way the locking ring goes as it as droped down.
cheers
Lfd

Turbo_Boss · 07-03-2008, 01:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lfd

Turbo boss don't suppose you have a pic of the door barrel & which way the locking ring goes as it as droped down.
cheers
Lfd

Does are the only pics I have. Taking apart does doors is a big pain in the back. You need to remove a lot of things to get were is the door lock motor.

I still have a problem with one door that the door lock motor does not work and I going to take the car to the dealer.........I will pay for that job!

Isaac

Lfd · 07-03-2008, 13:56

Thank's ,I know what you mean,and if you drop thinks the reinforcing bar makes it a pig to get to the bits,Keep up the good work,
Tony

09-10-2006, 21:43	#1
Turbo_Boss Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Panama Republic of Panama Posts: 337 Members Car: Skoda Octavia L&K 1.8T Thanks: 7 Thanked 12 Times in 3 Posts	Door Lock Malfuntion? Maybe this cure your problemo I have read many times here and in some other VAG forums that sometimes one of the doorlock dont want to open or stop working. Usually Symptoms: Door(s) fail to respond normally to lock/unlock signals. In several cases, sending a lock signal via remote locks all but one door. Usually the problem is a cracked solder joint inside the door lock servo/solenoid unit. I recomend you to read this info that explain how to fix this problemo taligentx.com: Passat - Door Lock Mechanism Repair Here are some pics that you will find in that site. . . Hope this info help you guys, Isaac __________________ The speed of light is greater than the speed of sound. That's why some people seem very bright until you hear them speak.

09-10-2006, 21:55	#2
*DGW* BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambridgeshire Posts: 17,300 Members Car: Octavia 1.8T 4X4 Estate & Fabia vRS Thanks: 51 Thanked 208 Times in 157 Posts	Re: Door Lock Malfuntion? Maybe this cure your problemo Nice find, Isaac. Now all we need is for one of our members who has replaced a similar part, and kept the old one, to have a look and see if this fault is present. __________________ Denis 2002 Octavia 1.8T 4X4 turbo Estate - rebreathed on by Jabba ... 31.93mpg 2007 Fabia vRS - CC, ESP and full leather trim by Seat Surgeons ...48.57 mpg... Last edited by DGW; 30-10-2006 at 18:31. Reason: Typos...

30-10-2006, 05:44	#3
Turbo_Boss Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Panama Republic of Panama Posts: 337 Members Car: Skoda Octavia L&K 1.8T Thanks: 7 Thanked 12 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Door Lock Malfuntion? Maybe this cure your problemo I got two damage door locks from friends that have replace this part on his Skodas. Eaven that they put new ones, I decide to open them just for fun to see what I find. My look was that I got 2 parts so I can compare them One of the door locks have a plastic lever broke that alow to this part to move from his working positio making the door lock to jam. This Lever work in conjuntion with some parts to make the deadlock work. Here is a pic of a lever in good condition: Isaac __________________ The speed of light is greater than the speed of sound. That's why some people seem very bright until you hear them speak. Last edited by Turbo_Boss; 30-10-2006 at 06:09.

30-10-2006, 05:47	#4
Turbo_Boss Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Panama Republic of Panama Posts: 337 Members Car: Skoda Octavia L&K 1.8T Thanks: 7 Thanked 12 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Door Lock Malfuntion? Maybe this cure your problemo So one of the Door Locks have a plastic lever broke inside. The other one have a mechanical damage that make that when you pull the door handle from the inside make the door handle to remain in the open position......... Its does not get back to his close position, you have to push it. I check the door lock part for this problem and found the metal lever that stick on the open position but for more than I try I can not find out what is the problem.............. For more pics on the Skodas unasembled Door Locks, check my gallery: Skoda Door Locks Images Isaac __________________ The speed of light is greater than the speed of sound. That's why some people seem very bright until you hear them speak. Last edited by Turbo_Boss; 30-10-2006 at 06:27.

30-10-2006, 08:38	#5
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,942 Members Car: Merc E class & SLK Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	Re: Door Lock Malfuntion? Maybe this cure your problemo I'll have a look at mine later. I think it was a sensor or microswith that led it to believe the door was still open. So, probably just the solder. Why you not tell me all this 2 weeks ago before I spent £85 on a new lock? __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

30-11-2006, 21:46	#8
Wayne Kerr Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NW Kent Posts: 936 Members Car: Metalic Black 1.8T 4x4 Estate Thanks: 9 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Door Lock Malfuntion? Maybe this cure your problemo Turbo_Boss, are these the joints that can fail causing the door open indicator to fail? http://www.briskoda.net/forums/attac...-door-lock.jpg __________________ Deli G ,,,, leader of the Peckham Massif! KW Coilovers fitted, Forge TIP fitted, KK fitted, Blueflame full system fitted, CAI fitted, Forge 007 D/V fitted, PBVH4 fitted, Forge adjustable rear tie bars fitted, FMIC fitted, 312's fitted, Tints fitted. Was that a 4x4 Skoda??? It's IMPOSSIBLE! 197.2 BHP & 263.1Nm

29-01-2007, 14:11	#9
Goochie Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Up a tree. Posts: 12,363 Members Car: Thanks: 7 Thanked 27 Times in 25 Posts	Re: Door Lock Malfuntion? Maybe this cure your problemo Turbo_boss are you able to answer the question above?

12-02-2007, 21:28	#11
Foxy Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Northants Posts: 101 Members Car: 2007 Octavia VRS Tdi Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Door Lock Malfuntion? Maybe this cure your problemo Guys - my 2004 Octavia Estate driver's door doesn't tell the car that it's open ! So, if I unlock the car and open the driver's door, the car auto-locks soon after. Also - the courtesy light extinguishes even with the door ajar. Any ideas guys? MTIA __________________ .....Geht wie Scheiße von einer Schaufel.....[/color]

13-02-2007, 01:20	#12
Turbo_Boss Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Panama Republic of Panama Posts: 337 Members Car: Skoda Octavia L&K 1.8T Thanks: 7 Thanked 12 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Door Lock Malfuntion? Maybe this cure your problemo If it only do it with the drivers door it mean that the micro switch is damage. Check my pics. Its possible to change the microswitch but you need to remove the completely door lock unit to do it. Isaac __________________ The speed of light is greater than the speed of sound. That's why some people seem very bright until you hear them speak.

13-02-2007, 09:01	#13
Goochie Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Up a tree. Posts: 12,363 Members Car: Thanks: 7 Thanked 27 Times in 25 Posts	Re: Door Lock Malfuntion? Maybe this cure your problemo Bengie has had this problem for some time and recently purchased a new lock assembly for the thick end of £100. However, this has not fixed his problem Foxy - how many miles has your car done? Bengie, Wanye Kerr and Myself all have this issue on cars with 80k+ (ish) miles.

13-02-2007, 09:53	#14
Foxy Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Northants Posts: 101 Members Car: 2007 Octavia VRS Tdi Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Door Lock Malfuntion? Maybe this cure your problemo Done just 20k - was my dads car and i reckon its been like this from new!!!!! Time to fish out the multimeter........ __________________ .....Geht wie Scheiße von einer Schaufel.....[/color]

13-02-2007, 14:55	#15
Mil Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: United Arab Emirates Posts: 3,801 Members Car: Weichers strut, K&N panel filter, GT bodykit, GT tailpipe, Falken tyres Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Door Lock Malfuntion? Maybe this cure your problemo Not respond?/ I had a situation once where my car was switched on, keys in ignitions, and I shut the door from outside to smoke a cigarette...when I was done I couldn't get back in, it locked on its own. And it did a few times more til I got it sorted! __________________ Milton Kyvernitis Private Government

14-02-2007, 01:42	#16
Foxy Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Northants Posts: 101 Members Car: 2007 Octavia VRS Tdi Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Door Lock Malfuntion? Maybe this cure your problemo It gets worse............neither driver or front passenger door open are acknowledged by the interior lights or locking !! The fecking rear doors are though !!! Work THAT one out !!!!! __________________ .....Geht wie Scheiße von einer Schaufel.....[/color]

06-03-2008, 15:31	#17
Lfd Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 38 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Door Lock Malfuntion? Maybe this cure your problemo Turbo boss don't suppose you have a pic of the door barrel & which way the locking ring goes as it as droped down. cheers Lfd

07-03-2008, 13:56	#19
Lfd Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 38 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Door Lock Malfuntion? Maybe this cure your problemo Thank's ,I know what you mean,and if you drop thinks the reinforcing bar makes it a pig to get to the bits,Keep up the good work, Tony

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