New brakes and rust (not on disc)

ethos · 26-08-2007, 18:05

Hi guys,

I got some new rear discs/pads and now there seems to be a lot of rust as pictured:

Any easy way to get it off as it looks ribbish

ScoobyChris · 26-08-2007, 18:38

Wire brush is probably easiest?

Chris

**mannyo** · 26-08-2007, 18:40

The problem is, the rust will re-appear very quickly unless you apply some paint to the area as untreated exposed steel rusts quickly.

VRSPhil · 26-08-2007, 18:42

I got that when I had some non VAG discs. I rubbed it back with a wire brush and painted them with green hammerite to match the callipers.

ethos · 26-08-2007, 18:47

So wheel off and give it a good scrub then! Maybe a job for next weekend!

ethos · 26-08-2007, 18:59

Is it a pain to do out of interest?

Ok, this is a real lame question... I only have the simple tools to take the wheel off... should I take it to a garage after to get it "torqued" to the right amount?

richie · 26-08-2007, 19:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethos

Is it a pain to do out of interest?

Ok, this is a real lame question... I only have the simple tools to take the wheel off... should I take it to a garage after to get it "torqued" to the right amount?

I would, better safe than sorry. 120 I think is the correct amout required.

ScoobyChris · 26-08-2007, 20:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethos

Ok, this is a real lame question... I only have the simple tools to take the wheel off... should I take it to a garage after to get it "torqued" to the right amount?

Depends how much money you have to burn. I bought one of these and have been very impressed with it...

Torque Wrench - Screwfix.com, Where the Trade Buys

Chris

ethos · 26-08-2007, 20:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by richie

I would, better safe than sorry. 120 I think is the correct amout required.

Any ideas what a garage would charge for this?! Can be much more than a fiver surely?

ethos · 26-08-2007, 20:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScoobyChris

Depends how much money you have to burn. I bought one of these and have been very impressed with it...

Torque Wrench - Screwfix.com, Where the Trade Buys

Chris

My internet is flakey at the moment and I can't get there! What sorta price is it?

I think overtime i'd like to be able to do more to my car and build up a selection of tools...

ScoobyChris · 26-08-2007, 20:38

12 quid

Chris

Liverpool-Lad · 26-08-2007, 20:52

I wouldnt be that bothered about the torque settings as long as you dont go mad with a 3 foot bar tightening the wheels.

Ill take some pics of mine tomorrow. What I did was use some hi temp silver paint on the centre hubs and also disk edges. Looks like new now and really tidies the wheel area. The centres were not rusty like that though, use some rust killer/wire brush and then paint.

ethos · 26-08-2007, 21:17

Cool, look forward to seeing the pics mate...

Liverpool-Lad · 27-08-2007, 17:03

Here you go. The paint I used was a spraypaint (Sperex VHT paint) but I sprayed that into a pot and put lots of coats on. That was a few weeks ago and it looks fine since.

ethos · 27-08-2007, 17:14

Looks good, think this'll be a job for next weekend.

Might polish and wax my wheels whilst i'm at it...

Liverpool-Lad · 27-08-2007, 17:28

Oh, itll take you a good few hours. Be sure to get rid of that rust first and also use some good axle stands and chocks as youll have to take the handbrake off to rotate the rear disks to paint them. Worth the effort though.

ethos · 07-09-2007, 13:07

Ok, so got a wirebrush, paintbrush and some hammerite "smooth silver"... will this be ok for this application heat wise?!

All came in at £11!!

cheezemonkhai · 07-09-2007, 14:14

Ask Makefish i think he used the silver hammerite for the same job.

Makefish · 07-09-2007, 15:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheezemonkhai

Ask Makefish i think he used the silver hammerite for the same job.

Indeed I did, very easy job to do and looked good when done

Cant tell you how well it lasted as the car has now gone but I believe it to have lasted very well.

Silver Hammerite on Rusting Hubs

ethos · 07-09-2007, 18:40

Thanks guys, def helps a noobie like me! Looks good Makefish.

Where should I Jack up / put the axle stands?

http://www.aoyt95.dsl.pipex.com/jackpoints.jpg

Those two circled for either ok? This is for the rears...

ethos · 08-09-2007, 13:55

Ok did it today! Here are some (rubbish) pictures, should of put some tyre cleaner on before but nevermind!

Liverpool-Lad · 09-09-2007, 20:53

What paint did you use? Looks much better BTW.

lordrobs · 09-09-2007, 23:01

Looks good, one of those jobs that I'd never get round to doing though

ethos · 09-09-2007, 23:19

Hammerite smooth silver

Only applied one coat so hope it lasts ok... Didn't take long to do and gave my wheels a polish and wax too.

Bluefox · 10-09-2007, 23:25

A stupid question perhaps, but is it worth masking the actual braking surface of the disc off? Surely any excess paint will be scrubbed off with application of the brakes...

26-08-2007, 18:05	#1
ethos Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cornwall Posts: 1,179 Members Car: Thanks: 60 Thanked 37 Times in 33 Posts	New brakes and rust (not on disc) Hi guys, I got some new rear discs/pads and now there seems to be a lot of rust as pictured: Any easy way to get it off as it looks ribbish

26-08-2007, 18:38	#2
ScoobyChris Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Andover Posts: 18,196 Members Car: Fiat Panda Thanks: 15 Thanked 336 Times in 290 Posts	Re: New brakes and rust (not on disc) Wire brush is probably easiest? Chris __________________ Holding up the traffic in a little Italian..........

26-08-2007, 18:40	#3
mannyo BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Stevenage Herts. Posts: 11,469 Members Car: Octavia 2.0 TDi Elegance Thanks: 58 Thanked 360 Times in 331 Posts	Re: New brakes and rust (not on disc) The problem is, the rust will re-appear very quickly unless you apply some paint to the area as untreated exposed steel rusts quickly. __________________ Manny 2005 Octavia 2.0TDi Elegance combi my skoda website http://www.octaviars.co.uk Join the briskoda.net folding team click Here for more info

26-08-2007, 18:42	#4
VRSPhil Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cleveland Posts: 2,315 Members Car: Passat Sport TDi Thanks: 206 Thanked 204 Times in 148 Posts	Re: New brakes and rust (not on disc) I got that when I had some non VAG discs. I rubbed it back with a wire brush and painted them with green hammerite to match the callipers. __________________ '54 Passat PD130 Sport... 55mpg Octavia vRS WRC - Gone but not forgotten!

26-08-2007, 18:47	#5
ethos Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cornwall Posts: 1,179 Members Car: Thanks: 60 Thanked 37 Times in 33 Posts	Re: New brakes and rust (not on disc) So wheel off and give it a good scrub then! Maybe a job for next weekend!

26-08-2007, 18:59	#6
ethos Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cornwall Posts: 1,179 Members Car: Thanks: 60 Thanked 37 Times in 33 Posts	Re: New brakes and rust (not on disc) Is it a pain to do out of interest? Ok, this is a real lame question... I only have the simple tools to take the wheel off... should I take it to a garage after to get it "torqued" to the right amount?

26-08-2007, 20:38	#11
ScoobyChris Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Andover Posts: 18,196 Members Car: Fiat Panda Thanks: 15 Thanked 336 Times in 290 Posts	Re: New brakes and rust (not on disc) 12 quid Chris __________________ Holding up the traffic in a little Italian..........

26-08-2007, 20:52	#12
Liverpool-Lad Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Liverpool Posts: 1,642 Members Car: Octavia vRS Thanks: 12 Thanked 47 Times in 47 Posts	Re: New brakes and rust (not on disc) I wouldnt be that bothered about the torque settings as long as you dont go mad with a 3 foot bar tightening the wheels. Ill take some pics of mine tomorrow. What I did was use some hi temp silver paint on the centre hubs and also disk edges. Looks like new now and really tidies the wheel area. The centres were not rusty like that though, use some rust killer/wire brush and then paint. __________________ 2001 Rally Red Octavia vRS...remap complete Whiteline rear ARB, Superpro dogbone bush - 225/45/17 Goodyear Eagle F1 Aysmmetrics and lots of V-Power! Smiles all 'round

26-08-2007, 21:17	#13
ethos Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cornwall Posts: 1,179 Members Car: Thanks: 60 Thanked 37 Times in 33 Posts	Re: New brakes and rust (not on disc) Cool, look forward to seeing the pics mate...

27-08-2007, 17:03	#14
Liverpool-Lad Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Liverpool Posts: 1,642 Members Car: Octavia vRS Thanks: 12 Thanked 47 Times in 47 Posts	Re: New brakes and rust (not on disc) Here you go. The paint I used was a spraypaint (Sperex VHT paint) but I sprayed that into a pot and put lots of coats on. That was a few weeks ago and it looks fine since. __________________ 2001 Rally Red Octavia vRS...remap complete Whiteline rear ARB, Superpro dogbone bush - 225/45/17 Goodyear Eagle F1 Aysmmetrics and lots of V-Power! Smiles all 'round

27-08-2007, 17:14	#15
ethos Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cornwall Posts: 1,179 Members Car: Thanks: 60 Thanked 37 Times in 33 Posts	Re: New brakes and rust (not on disc) Looks good, think this'll be a job for next weekend. Might polish and wax my wheels whilst i'm at it...

27-08-2007, 17:28	#16
Liverpool-Lad Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Liverpool Posts: 1,642 Members Car: Octavia vRS Thanks: 12 Thanked 47 Times in 47 Posts	Re: New brakes and rust (not on disc) Oh, itll take you a good few hours. Be sure to get rid of that rust first and also use some good axle stands and chocks as youll have to take the handbrake off to rotate the rear disks to paint them. Worth the effort though. __________________ 2001 Rally Red Octavia vRS...remap complete Whiteline rear ARB, Superpro dogbone bush - 225/45/17 Goodyear Eagle F1 Aysmmetrics and lots of V-Power! Smiles all 'round

07-09-2007, 13:07	#17
ethos Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cornwall Posts: 1,179 Members Car: Thanks: 60 Thanked 37 Times in 33 Posts	Re: New brakes and rust (not on disc) Ok, so got a wirebrush, paintbrush and some hammerite "smooth silver"... will this be ok for this application heat wise?! All came in at £11!!

07-09-2007, 14:14	#18
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,634 Members Car: Thanks: 113 Thanked 518 Times in 481 Posts	Re: New brakes and rust (not on disc) Ask Makefish i think he used the silver hammerite for the same job. __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

07-09-2007, 18:40	#20
ethos Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cornwall Posts: 1,179 Members Car: Thanks: 60 Thanked 37 Times in 33 Posts	Re: New brakes and rust (not on disc) Thanks guys, def helps a noobie like me! Looks good Makefish. Where should I Jack up / put the axle stands? http://www.aoyt95.dsl.pipex.com/jackpoints.jpg Those two circled for either ok? This is for the rears... Last edited by ethos; 07-09-2007 at 18:46.

08-09-2007, 13:55	#21
ethos Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cornwall Posts: 1,179 Members Car: Thanks: 60 Thanked 37 Times in 33 Posts	Re: New brakes and rust (not on disc) Ok did it today! Here are some (rubbish) pictures, should of put some tyre cleaner on before but nevermind!

09-09-2007, 20:53	#22
Liverpool-Lad Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Liverpool Posts: 1,642 Members Car: Octavia vRS Thanks: 12 Thanked 47 Times in 47 Posts	Re: New brakes and rust (not on disc) What paint did you use? Looks much better BTW. __________________ 2001 Rally Red Octavia vRS...remap complete Whiteline rear ARB, Superpro dogbone bush - 225/45/17 Goodyear Eagle F1 Aysmmetrics and lots of V-Power! Smiles all 'round

09-09-2007, 23:01	#23
lordrobs Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Norwich Posts: 272 Members Car: Octy vRS Thanks: 5 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: New brakes and rust (not on disc) Looks good, one of those jobs that I'd never get round to doing though

09-09-2007, 23:19	#24
ethos Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cornwall Posts: 1,179 Members Car: Thanks: 60 Thanked 37 Times in 33 Posts	Re: New brakes and rust (not on disc) Hammerite smooth silver Only applied one coat so hope it lasts ok... Didn't take long to do and gave my wheels a polish and wax too.

10-09-2007, 23:25	#25
Bluefox Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Rugby, Warwickshire Posts: 1,084 Members Car: 53-plate Skoda Superb 130 TDI Thanks: 67 Thanked 51 Times in 44 Posts	Re: New brakes and rust (not on disc) A stupid question perhaps, but is it worth masking the actual braking surface of the disc off? Surely any excess paint will be scrubbed off with application of the brakes... __________________ 2003 Superb Classic TDI 130 - Project Diary - Updated 22/11/08 2006 Fabia vRS - Project Diary - Updated 11/10/08

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