1.8TSI and 2.0TSI engine failures

[DGW]

As the owner of an Octavia II 1.8TSI, I am very concerned at the increasing number of reports by Briskoda members of TSI engine failures - alhough so far these all involve the 2.0TSI version. I thought it would be useful if those reports were summarised in a single thread for future reference so here goes. I will update this thread whenever further failures are reported.

For clarity, the engines in question are those below:

CDAA = 118KW 160HP 1.8TSI
CDAB = 112KW 150HP 1.8TSI
CCZA = 147KW 200HP 2.0TSI

1. virusman26 - 59 plate Octavia II FL vRS 2.0TSI - 37,700 miles

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/253954-argh-dead-engine/


2. kwabo - March 2012 Octavia II FL vRS 2.0TSI DSG ~ 2,000 miles (Warranty invalidated by use at Santa Pod the previous week). Skoda agreed a small goodwill donation.

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/248095-timing-jump-nightmare-can-anyone-help/


3. brown_d9 - 2009 Octavia II vRS LE 2.0TSI - 85,000 miles faulty tensioner - Skoda paid in full for replacement reconditioned engine

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/254274-09-vrs-ltd-edition-20-tsi-engine-gone-bang/


4. NWB - Octavia II vRS 2.0TSI - 69,400 miles in 2 yrs 4 mnths - timing chain snapped. No update on outcome.

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/231688-vrs-timing-chain-snapped-at-less-than-70k-miles/


5. bluto - Octavia II vRS LE 2.0TSI - 31,000 miles in 2 yrs 51 wks - timing chain tensioner failure. Replacement engine fitted under warranty

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/231688-vrs-timing-chain-snapped-at-less-than-70k-miles/page__st__30#entry2762313 Post 50


6. linelink - 2009 Octavia II vRS 2.0TSI - ~ 27,000 miles in 3 yrs 2 mnths - timing jumped - guide attached to cylinder head casting had broken off. Goodwill payment of 40% by Skoda UK towards cost of repair.

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/254274-09-vrs-ltd-edition-20-tsi-engine-gone-bang/page__st__180 Post 190


7. Mark VRS - 2009 Octavia II vRS 2.0TSI - 42,000 miles in just over 3 yrs - suspected timing chain problem.

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/266080-vrs-timing-belt-fail/


8. MrMatt - Octavia II vRS 2.0TSI - 39,000 miles and 2 mnths out of Skoda warranty. Suspected timing chain tensioner issue.

See Post 6 below.


9. Bubbles52 - June 2012 Octavia II vRS 2.0TSI - Circa 37,000 miles. Chain jumped. Engine replaced under warranty.

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/265589-worth-replacing-chain-tensioner-in-a-59-vrs-20-tsi-as-precaution/ Post #30


10. Ali5246 - 2009 Octavia II vRS 2.0TSI - 72,000 miles.

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/265589-worth-replacing-chain-tensioner-in-a-59-vrs-20-tsi-as-precaution/page__st__90 Post #93


11. Boston1920 - Dec 2009 Octavia II vRS 2.0TSI DSG - 36,000 miles. FSH. Chain tensioner failed.

See Posts 9 and 27 below.


12. Mike&Suzy - 2009? Yeti 1.8TSI - 50397 miles. Slight misfire. Engine warning light on and more difficult to start on next journey. Drove to dealer following day. Timing chain had slipped resulting in valves hitting pistons. Skoda offered 80% contribution after escalation of case.

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/281301-18-tsi-engine-failure/


13. gunner216 - 2010-plate Octavia II vRS 2.0TSI - 36,000 miles. Timing tensioner failed. Skoda offered 55% discount on £6K cost new engine.

See Post 86 below.


14. Abarth Moose - 10-plate FL Octavia II vRS 2.0TSI - just over 50,000 miles. Timing chain failure while car with dealer for service. Skoda UK initially offered goodwill gesture of 55% of the cost of a new engine then 100% when member said he would sue dealer under the SOGA.

See Post 96 below.


15. snorbans - Nov 2009 Octavia II vRS 2.0TSI DSG Estate - 36,500 miles. Failed to start, with very expensive engine noise. Timing chain slipped. Initially offered 45% contribution but increased to 100% after mention of SOGA.

See Post 123 below.


16. JustinCombi - 2009 Superb 1.8TSI - 72,000 miles. Skoda UK paid 50% of £3K bill to replace piston and conrods (plus other bits) to cure heavy oil consumption. Two days after the repair the engine hesitated, ran rough then and cut out. Investigation revealed that timing chain had slipped due to tensioner failure. Timing chain and tensioner replaced FOC by dealer.

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/261643-18-tsi-excessive-oil-consumption/


17. NIGELD - Nov 2009 Octavia II vRS 2.0TSI - 47,337 miles. Dealer serviced from new. Engine failed to start. Skoda UK offered new (remanufactured) engine with 2 year warranty following endoscope examination of cylinders, with owner paying a contribution (£399) towards labour costs.

See Posts 108, 22, 229 and 281 below.


18. piv34uk - Nov 2010 Octavia vRS 2.0TSI - 38,000 miles. Engine misfired badly after starting. Multiple misfires logged along with timing out of adjustment. Investigated by dealer under warranty. Timing chain had jumped by 5 teeth but not enough to cause damage. New timing chain, tensioner and oil valve fitted under warranty.

See Post 143 below.


19. a_Duncan - April 2009 Octavia II vRS 2.0TSI - 59,000 miles. Broken inlet valve spring discovered after engine misfire which also burned out the inlet manifold which had to be replaced. A big job, removal of the head also chain and tensioners replaced as this had been rubbing against the covers. Skoda made a contribution towards the cost.

See Post 148 below.


20. DICKEAST - 59 plate Octavia II vRS 2.0 TSI - 76,000 miles. Engine would not start. Timing chain had slipped. An oil supply issue to the top of the engine was the main cause of the engine failure. Skoda UK contributed 60% of bill for new engine. Owner paid £2400.

See Posts 177 and 250.


21. b33fy - 2010 Octavia II vRS 2.0TSI - 33,000 miles. Tensioner failure on starting. 12 weeks out of warranty. B33fy replaced the engine himself.


22. Baiton202 - 59 plate Octavia vRS 2.0TSI - 39,000 miles and almost 4 years old. Engine died on driveway'. Purchased from Skoda dealer in 2012 with FSSH. Dealer diagnosed chain tensioner failure. Initially offered 45% then 55% goodwill gesture towards £5800 bill for new engine. Not considered acceptable and case ongoing - but no further feedback.

See Post 192 below.


23. B B Burrows esq - 59 plate Octavia II vRS 2.0TSI - 52,000 miles and 10 months out of warranty. Engine misfiring on startup. Changed coil pack but fault still present, then mobile tech diagnosed blocked cat. Car recovered to dealer who discovered timing chain had slipped causing major engine damage. Skoda UK agreed to pay 90% of cost of new engine, with owner paying £430.

See Post 267 below.


24. rob_e - Early 2010 Octavia II vRS 2.0TSI - 2.5 years old and 76,000 miles hence out of warranty. Engine stopped running when cruising at 70mph. The car had had a metallic rattle on cold start for a couple of months prior to the failure but the dealer was unable to recreate the problem and thought it was a rattly wastegate. Tensioner failure. Skoda UK covered most of cost of brand new engine complete with all ancillaries.

See updated Post 278 below.


25. budgiebandolier - Sep 2009 Octavia II 1.8TSI - 38,700 miles and 13 months out of warranty. FSSH. Engine would not restart after very short journey. Engine management light had come on 3 days previously and investigation of that fault by dealer was pending. Susequently onfirmed that timing chain tensioner had failed. After contact with Skoda UK a new engine was fitted FOC.

See Post 280 below.


26. minm - 2010 Yeti 1.8TSI - 39,800 miles and 5 months out of warranty. Timing chain slipped. Eventually offered 70% parts contribution and 50% for labour, leaving bill for £1700.

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/281301-18-tsi-engine-failure/ Post 21.


27. footstepsuk - 2009 Superb 1.8T - 'Timing belt failed/stretched causing valves to collide." (Sic) Bill for new engine circa £6500.
NB. No clarification from the owner yet that this is a timing chain rather timing belt problem, but a 2009 Superb would have a TSI rather than a TFSI engine.

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/281301-18-tsi-engine-failure/ Post 27.


28. ukdaz - March 2010 Octavia II vRS 2.0TSI - 55,000 miles. Timing chain slipped - engine seemed to take around 10 seconds to fire up rather than instantly. Dealer reported new engine needed due to timing chain issues and quoted quoted £8500 for this. Skoda Head Office now involved.

See Posts 318 and 324 below.


29. Sino - Jan 2009 Octavia II 1.8TSI 4X4. In Mar 2013 at about 45,000km there was a "Control System for Exhaust" warning. Problem was faulty tensioner and fault fully fixed by SKODA Schweis under warranty. No further details available.

See Post 323 below.


30. Grad - Dec 2009 Octavia II 2.0 TSI - 67000 miles and FSSH. Engine failed at idle during journey. Cams starved of oil. Two new cams and other top end parts needed. Total repair cost £1600 including 70% goodwill contribution by Skoda UK.
Update: 'In the end I paid £1095. I've had pretty much a new top end, new head, cams etc, new chains and tensioner. Skoda contributed 70% so the the total cost would have been around £3650.'


See Posts 345, 347 and 374 below, and http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/304223-my-broken-octavia-vrs/


31. pmdc199 - 2010 Octavia II 2.0TSI - 38,000 miles in just under 4 years and FSH. Engine failed to start and strange noise heard. Suspect timing chain tensioner failure. Major engine damage sustained. Paid £7000 to have engine replaced by Skoda Dealer while temporarily in Belgium and subsequently received goodwill contribution of £4500 from Skoda UK.


See Post 400 below and http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/313498-car-dead-just-turns-over-2010-vrs-any-advice-please/#entry3750786


32. notamused - August 2009 Yeti 1.8TSI - 60,000 miles. Persistent coolant leak problems for around 1 year and then heavy oil consumption. Dealer unable to trace coolant leak and eventually coolant pump replaced. Oil problem not investigated as it would necessitate engine strip to diagnose. Owner eventually arranged to have water pump changed. However EPC light came on the day after and the engine started juddering below 3000rpm. Subsequent engine strip revealed that head guides unrepairable and piston rings need replacing. Cost of repair is £5200.


See Post 408 below and http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/314670-been-told-my-4-year-old-yeti-needs-a-new-engine/#entry3766064


33. sm0303 - 2009 Octavia II 2.0TSI - < 62,000km. Timing chain tensioner failure. New engine needed.

See Post 459 below.


34. Chew182 - 2010 Octavia II 2.0TSI - 41,000 miles. Engine warning light came on and engine turned over but would not start. Cylinder head and piston damage. New engine and turbo fitted. Skoda UK offered 20% goodwill contribution. Owner seeking full refund from Skoda UK.

See Post 527 below.


35. crowesnest - Jun 2010 Octavia II 2.0TSI - 41,000 miles. Lack of power, EML on, and fault code P0016. Car recovered to local dealer who initially diagnosed that timing chain had stretched but tensioner OK, then later decided that tensioner had failed. No engine damage. Repair bill of £850 for chain, tensioner and guides paid by third party warranty company.

See Post 552 below for fuller story.


36. Stevery - Dec 2008 Octavia II 2.0TSI - 43,000 miles. Tensioner failure on startup. Currently being stripped by dealer to investigate failure. FSSH and Skoda Approved Extended Warranty.
Update: New engine fitted under warranty.

See Posts 549, 553 and 557 below.


37. Nobafett - Sep 2009 Octavia II 2.0TSI - 45,000 miles. FSH. Suspect turbo problems with car low on power and screeching noise diagnosed by VAG specialist as timing chain issue. Subsequent investigation by Skoda dealer confirmed timing chain. Replacement engine needed. No goodwill contribution from Skoda UK so owner started legal proceedings for redress under SOGA.  After struggling to achieve anything with Solicitors his mechanic examined engine and no damage to pistons or valves found.  Replaced timing chain and tensioner

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/323631-urgent-help-required-timing-chain-issues-please-read/

 

See also Posts 1046 and 1051 below.


38. Wardy- - 2009 Octavia II 2.0TSI - 47,000 miles. FSH (albeit non-Skoda). Massive engine rattle when trying to start then nothing. Since confirmed that new engine needed. Purchased secondhand from a Skoda dealer with standard Skoda used car warranty. Replacement engine fitted under warranty.

See Posts 575, 577 and 579 below.


39. JM VRS - 2010 Octavia II 2.0TSI - 37,000 miles. FSSH. Engine turned over but would not start. Fault codes P12015 and P2296 present. Skoda dealer diagnosed that timing chain had slipped. Skoda UK offered 100% goodwill on parts (new engine) with owner left to pay estimated £1300 labour costs. After further discussion with Skoda UK, they agreed to pay 50% of labour costs.

See Posts 595, 602, 606 and 614 below.


40. Louise27 - Nov 2009 Octavia II 2.0TSI - 33,500 miles. Chain tensioner failed and timing chain has jumped 'which has screwed up the engine'. Purchased secondhand from a Skoda dealer with FSSH. Subsequent service carried out by an independent garage. Skoda UK initially offered 25% goodwill as car is out of warranty, but subsequently increased that to 70% for parts and 50% for labour. The owner accepted offer and paid £1749 to have car repaired..

See Posts 638, 678 and 696 below.


41. bwulfsport - 2011 Octavia II 2.0TSI - 34,000 miles. FSSH. Strange noise during unsuccessful startup and subsequently would not start. Skoda dealer found timing massively out. New engine needed. Skoda UK have offered to pay 100% of cost of new engine, and 30% of labour, leaving owner to pay £940.80.

See Posts 646 and 661 below.


42. stace - 10 plate Octavia II 2.0TSI - 50,000 miles. FSSH with supplying dealer. Funny noise during cold start. No compression. Asked to authorise 3 hours labour to diagnose problem.  New engine supplied free of charge including 2 year warranty.

See Posts 668, 669 and 985 below.

 

 

43.  j600arv - 10 plate Octavia II 2.0TSI - 41,000 miles.  Funny noise on startup which became louder on later starts.  Then failed to start and heard a bang.  Opened case with Skoda UK.  Engine replaced under goodwill. Initially asked to pay £650 towards labour but bargained down to £324 contribution.  2 year warranty on repair.

 

See Posts 805, 961 and 969 below.

 

 

44.  m0bov - 2009 Octavia II 2.0TSI - 30,000 miles.  Full SSH.  Dealer investigated rattle on startup when cold and submitted report to Skoda UK.  Booked in for further work but, following 'horrid clunk' and loud knocking on startup, car recovered to dealer where investigation revealed major internal engine damage.  Skoda Approved Extended Warranty insurer rejected claim for replacement engine on grounds that failure due to an inherent fault, while Skoda UK initially offered 80% goodwill contribution for parts, then increased that to 80% plus 50% for labour.  Owner rejected that and Skoda UK subsequently covered the replacement cost in full.

 

See Posts 809, 830, 832, 843, 857, 878, 880, 893 and 911.

 

 

45.  cgwtnt - 2011 Octavia II 2.0TSI - 37,000 miles.  Ex-demo purchased from Skoda dealer when 6 months old.  FDSH.  Engine warning light came on but car still felt fine when driving.  However Investigation by dealer found that pistons had met valves.  Timing chain tensioner failure suspected as being cause.  Skoda initially offered 40% goodwill but increased that to 60% contribution when pressed leaving owner to pay £2800.  Issue confirmed as stretched timing chain not timing chain tensioner....

 

See Post 958, 975 and 978 below.

 

 

46.  bullet  -​ 2010 Octavia II 2.0TSI - 65,000 miles.  Purchased new.  Engine suddenly failed to start.  Non-Skoda mechanic found loose cam chain.  Car subsequently examined by Skoda dealer who advised engine "broken" and £6500 replacement needed.  Skoda UK initially refused any goodwill as car serviced outside dealer network. but finally agreed to pay 50% of repair cost.

 

See Posts 970, 980, 983, 990 and 1026 below.

 

 

47.  Onza -  2010 Octavia II 2.0TSI - 69,000 miles.  FSSH.  A ticking noise first noticed 25,000 miles turned into an increasingly audible rattle and finally a harsh clattering at 69,000 when cruising.  The car was stopped and recovered to a Skoda dealer for investigation.  Prior to this the noise problem had been reported to the dealer a number of times for investigation but was considered normal.   An examination revealed that oil starvation had caused overheating and disintegration of at least one of the camshaft bearings.  After many discussions with the dealer and SUK the owner eventually paid £2000 towards a new engine.

 

See Post 994 below for a comprehensive account of this failure and also Posts 996 and 997.

 

 

48.  lifesaver112 - ​2011 Octavia II 2.0TSI.  Bent valves.  (No other details posted.)  No Skoda service history.  Raised case with SUK based on faulty tensioner.  Offered new engine for £3,600 plus £500 for labour +VAT (ie 25% off) but had already sourced a replacement engine from elsewhere.

 

See Posts 1034, 1036 and 1039.

 

 

49.   Stuart07 - 60 plate Octavia II 1.8TSI - 64,000 miles.  Bad noise on starting.  Recovered to dealer who diagnosed pistons had hit valves due to timing chain slipping.  Mechanical ratchet tensioner found to be at level 5 of 5. ​  No further updates posted.

 

See Post 1056.

 

 

50.  pwvrs  -  2011 Octavia II 2.0TSI - 68,000 miles.  ​FSSH.  Chain slipped.  No support offered by Skoda.  No further details or updates posted.

 

See Posts 1063 and 1070 below.

 

 

51. Carloskoda -  2010 Octavia II 2.0TSI - 50,000 miles.  Bought from an independent garage in 2013 and full services carried out outside dealer network.  Engine failed on startup with bit of a clatter then spinning with no compression.  Diagnosed by independent Skoda Service Centre.  SUK initially refused any support due to lack of a FSSH but finally offered a 35% discount on a new engine.

 

See Post 1069 below for a full account of the failure and subsequent unrelated blocked injector failure.

Edited 11 January, 2016 by DGW

[Tom Tallon]

I think its very public spirited of you to try to correlate these problems.

Equally as an owner of a 1.8 tsi I am even more enthused by the fact that the problem seems to crop up across VRS models. (Selfish swine that I am).

I have to say, however, that I did copious research before I bought my 1.8 and cannot recall any noteworthy trend of warnings acrosss petrol TSI models. (March to april 2012 research time). Perhaps I glossed over the VRS references.

Just a thought, statistically is this not a small number of problems as a percentage of all VRS models out there. Its well known people contribute much more with hard luck stories than satisfaction.

[shane_saintsfc]

Every manufacturer has engine failures. It is a very small percentage. People will post on forums when their engine blows up but they won't when it's running fine.

[rob_e]

I've been keeping tabs on this too - Dennis I'm pretty sure you have the full list there as far as I can see.

[Aspman]

Every manufacturer has engine failures. It is a very small percentage. People will post on forums when their engine blows up but they won't when it's running fine.

Would be a good idea to match up with catastrophic faults on the TFSI. If the numbers are similar then it's probably no worse than anything else.

Would also be worth matching up with the same engine in the other VAG marques.

[MrMatt]

MrMatt. Octavia VRS TSI. 39000 miles. It's 2 months out of Skoda warranty. I purchased it from a dealer less than 3 weeks before the problem occurred. I have not yet had the report of what's happened. Suspected timing chain tensioner issue. The dealer has informed my Skoda will not help regarding the cost, repair etc..

[JD52]

MrMatt. Octavia VRS TSI. 39000 miles. It's 2 months out of Skoda warranty. I purchased it from a dealer less than 3 weeks before the problem occurred. I have not yet had the report of what's happened. Suspected timing chain tensioner issue. The dealer has informed my Skoda will not help regarding the cost, repair etc..

Get on to Skoda Customer service and speak to them about a known fault with the timing chain tensioner.

[mikey vrs]

MrMatt. Octavia VRS TSI. 39000 miles. It's 2 months out of Skoda warranty. I purchased it from a dealer less than 3 weeks before the problem occurred. I have not yet had the report of what's happened. Suspected timing chain tensioner issue. The dealer has informed my Skoda will not help regarding the cost, repair etc..

If you have only had the car 3 weeks & it was from a skoda dealer you should have a years warranty as part of the sale,if it was a motor trader you should still have a 3month warranty on the car.

[boston1920]

I have Dec 2009 registered Octavia VRS which is two months out of warranty. Just 36000 miles - full service history.The timebelt tensioner has just gone (Ive been told by an independent VAG specialist) and so has the engine I'm told. Its with a Skoda dealer right now who has told me they will charge me for three hours work (i.e. £240.00) to tell me what they already know is wrong with it and that then they will go to Skoda UK and see if they can recompense given that its just out of warranty. Sods law !

[swany]

like most owners of a Tsi engined vrs I too am becoming more worried about a tensioner failure. So I spoke to Suk today (again) asking / telling about my concerns only to be told to take my concerns to the dealer where I bought the car and have a nice day. I think a well worded email to the papers and auto express is required informing the general public about the real views of existing customers

[stever750]

Am I the only tsi owner that isn't "worried"? I'm more concerned about being hit head on and dying in a blazing fireball tbh, though I do hold my breath for a fraction of a second every time I start the engine!

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[Aspman]

http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47128

[allan1888]

I ain't worried about Tbh if it goes wrong ain't much I can do about it

[giromondo]

1.8TSi has chain driven camshafts while the 2.0TSi in the VRS is belt driven so they are totally different series of engines. These problems sem to only affect the VRS (same engine as in my Eos, my Scout is a 1.8TSi).

[Stoofa]

1.8TSi has chain driven camshafts while the 2.0TSi in the VRS is belt driven so they are totally different series of engines. These problems sem to only affect the VRS (same engine as in my Eos, my Scout is a 1.8TSi).

No. The 2.0 TSI in the current vRS is chain driven. It's the older 2.0 TFSI that appeared in the pre-FL vRS that uses the belt.

Oh and as to the "am I worried?" question.

No, not really. There are obviously far more "silent majority" engines that are having no problems, so odds are that all will be fine.

If it goes wrong within the original 3yrs I'm covered and I nearly always extended warranty to 4 years (my planned length of ownership on this one) so will make sure such an issue would be covered by warranty for all the time I own the vehicle.

Edited 6 March, 2013 by Stoofa

[rob_e]

like most owners of a Tsi engined vrs I too am becoming more worried about a tensioner failure. So I spoke to Suk today (again) asking / telling about my concerns only to be told to take my concerns to the dealer where I bought the car and have a nice day. I think a well worded email to the papers and auto express is required informing the general public about the real views of existing customers

Email the papers to say what? 10 failures isn't a large number given the volume of TSI engines that must be out there, and SUK appear to be funding all that are under warranty and most of the cost for those that are out of warranty but have been maintained in the dealer network, plus they've changed the design for the replacement part/later engines to corect the problem.. so what exactly would you complain about?

I think this needs to be kept in perspective.

Maybe the mods should make this a sticky, and Dennis could edit his first post with a summary that recognises the issue but makes it clear that its not that common and most failures have been resolved etc? Otherwise there is a danger that this becomes one of those internet urban myths.

[ednmra]

Is it possible that the extra grunt from the vRS causes more trouble than in the 1.8TSi ?

Plus maybe that by its very nature the sporty vRS encourages driving more towards the extreme end of its power range?

Just a thought that maybe the 1.8 TSi is more within the mechanical limits of the general design.

[swany]

Email the papers to say what? 10 failures isn't a large number given the volume of TSI engines that must be out there, and SUK appear to be funding all that are under warranty and most of the cost for those that are out of warranty but have been maintained in the dealer network, plus they've changed the design for the replacement part/later engines to corect the problem.. so what exactly would you complain about?

I think this needs to be kept in perspective.

Maybe the mods should make this a sticky, and Dennis could edit his first post with a summary that recognises the issue but makes it clear that its not that common and most failures have been resolved etc? Otherwise there is a danger that this becomes one of those internet urban myths.

. go onto some american sites where the TSI engine has been in use a bit longer and you find it is a lot more than 10 failures Edited 6 March, 2013 by swany

[rob_e]

. go onto some american sites where the TSI engine has been in use a bit longer and you find it is a lot more than 10 failures

and your point is what exactly? Every manufacturer has some problems on some model or other at some point - from what I've seen SUK are not being unhelpful in resolving the issues, but they have to make a call as to whether financially and based on level of risk, number of failures etc it makes more sense to recall every one or just pay on a case by case basis. obviously in this case its more cost effective to fund individual failures.

If you're really that worried replace the part yourself, or buy an extended warranty when your factory cover runs out, or buy something else? TBH if you look on google you'll find "issues" with just about every vehicle ever made!

[Yeti_Man]

Is it possible that the extra grunt from the vRS causes more trouble than in the 1.8TSi ?

Not in my case. Sorry, couldnt resist.

Its the usual story of anyone thats got a reliable motor; takes it for granted. Anyone thats had an issue heads straight off to complain about it on the forums. Im sure ultimately theres nothing to worry about and the overall statistics probably back that up but at the same time, I love these threads as they are great support when SUK or the dealer are saying that your failure is a one off incident etc.

[blackspaven]

Is it possible that the extra grunt from the vRS causes more trouble than in the 1.8TSi ?

Plus maybe that by its very nature the sporty vRS encourages driving more towards the extreme end of its power range?

Just a thought that maybe the 1.8 TSi is more within the mechanical limits of the general design.

Asked exactly the same point ages ago and never got a direct response to it... so don't hold your breath!

[swany]

and your point is what exactly? Every manufacturer has some problems on some model or other at some point - from what I've seen SUK are not being unhelpful in resolving the issues, but they have to make a call as to whether financially and based on level of risk, number of failures etc it makes more sense to recall every one or just pay on a case by case basis. obviously in this case its more cost effective to fund individual failures.

If you're really that worried replace the part yourself, or buy an extended warranty when your factory cover runs out, or buy something else? TBH if you look on google you'll find "issues" with just about every vehicle ever made!

Rob e, I know what you are saying and yeti man makes a valid point too. What I am saying is it is a worry when you read as much hype on forums about the failure, all be it its only 10 on here, the issue is when you phone the dealer they say they know nothing about the problems although there has been at least 2 tech bulletins about it, and suk wont even or cant tell me if my car, being a late 2011 is fitted with one of the up dated tensioner. Too cut a long story short, if I had the cash to change the car I would, my faith in the vag group cars has faded over the last 5years due to the usual problems that are noted on briskoda.net

[JB-)]

. go onto some american sites where the TSI engine has been in use a bit longer and you find it is a lot more than 10 failures

I looked and only found 5

...if I had the cash to change the car I would, my faith in the vag group cars has faded over the last 5years due to the usual problems that are noted on briskoda.net

Best thing you can do is stay off the forums because you'll find endless complaints about problems with any make of car you choose to buy.

[m0bov]

I checked the small print in my Skoda Extended Warranty, it says they don't cover "inherent design faults". Ummm, I expect this is on many other warranties.

[Stoofa]

If I found the fault to be "an inherent design fault" that causes any "pricey" damage to my car then I'd be seeing Skoda in court if they failed to stump up the full cost of repairs.