Best turbo upgrade octavia vrs

[KrissTheMiller]

Hi all I have a feeling my turbo is dying as its smoking quite a bit. I had it remapped to stage 2 a few months ago and im guessing the extra strain is killing it. What would be the best upgrade k03s hybrid, k04 or garret turbo?

Help will be much appreciated :-)

[snow_muncher]

The short answer is: Garrett

 

The long answer: Depends on what you want to achieve, and the depth of your wallet

[KrissTheMiller]

Depth is my wifes credit card lol so not very big budget.

Whats involved in a garrett conversion?

Just thought I may aswell upgrade if its fubard :-)

[vrsmark]

Go for a beach buggy turbos hybrid!

Top quality turbos coming from them at the minute!

What stage 2 hardware do you have currently?

You will probably need to change your fmic for a garrett setup!

Going BT (garrett) will cost you the best part of £8k+ assuming you know your way around the car!

[KrissTheMiller]

Haha I wont be going up that route then. Maybe just hybrid.

Running stage 2 jbs custom code remap

[snow_muncher]

Beaten to it

 

Forged engined ... many thousands of pounds

 

Only worth doing for fun basically

 

modern hybrids will get quite close to older Garrett/IHI turbo's (GT2860RS/vf34, etc), and cost less

 

In terms of strength and reliability though, they won't match a Garrett

[KrissTheMiller]

Cheers guys. Cost wise what am I looking at for the hybrid and all the parts. I can fit it all myself no probs.

Is it the 4 bar fpr 3" maf ect

[karlbar2k]

Wasn't there a Garrett "eliminator" turbo that was a straight swap?

[snow_muncher]

Their were/are a series of kits called "Eliminator"  kits

 

They featureed a range of Garrett turbos' (often odd old version models) with a manifold adapter

 

As you can imagine, trying to flow a bigger turbo through the stock mani and dp resulted in mani's melting

 

Don't ever remember reading a positive thing about those kits

[KrissTheMiller]

whos the best person to message about the hybrid upgrade?

 

just want to know about the injectors and if you have to change the inlet manifold to the cupra set up ect?

 

best place to get my k03s hybrided?

 

am i best to just find a cupra r breaking for the parts?

 

does anyone know all the part numbers needed for the upgraded parts?

[Lloyd55vrs]

Give the card to clive and collect when done

[KrissTheMiller]

I can do work myself as im doing stem seals anyway just need to know which parts to get and where from.

[missingmyvrs]

I can supply you the very best k03 hybrid pm for details ;-)

[snow_muncher]

...

 

The reason your posts keep going missing is that you haven't paid to advertise

 

HTH

[missingmyvrs]

Guys just read up about the cr turbo hybrids

Spk to the likes of Rtech badger 5 and beach buggy turbos then choose ;-)

Lol

[CRTurbos]

............................or you could use a "mapper" who knows what they are doing!  Amazing how one mapper manages to destroy every turbo from us and others achieve fantastic figures and the turbos are still going strong.  Maybe speak to us and not judge us by others comments. 

[missingmyvrs]

Who was the mapper that's destroyed them ??

I'm going on what has been seen from some of the top tuners in the country and what's been seen when the failed turbos have been stripped @ beach buggy turbos ??

If your turbos are good why would these people publicy slate you when they used to fit your products ??

I all for seeing good hybrids that are consistent all in the name of getting the best products for my customers.

[demonufo]

............................or you could use a "mapper" who knows what they are doing!  Amazing how one mapper manages to destroy every turbo from us and others achieve fantastic figures and the turbos are still going strong.  Maybe speak to us and not judge us by others comments. 

Even then, you still need to be a paid advertiser to flog your wares here. Until then, I suggest you give it up.

[Jardo]

............................or you could use a "mapper" who knows what they are doing!  Amazing how one mapper manages to destroy every turbo from us and others achieve fantastic figures and the turbos are still going strong.  Maybe speak to us and not judge us by others comments. 

 

...or you could spend less time behind keyboards being idiots and more time actually doing R&D on your units.

 

I'm guessing you're just the tea boy? So I don't expect you to understand most of this, however I'll quite simply explain the issue with CR units. Seeing as you can slanderously refer to one of the most knowledgeable VAG tuners in the industry as not knowing what he is doing and "destroying" your turbos, you probably deserve some return fire.

 

Your units are SHOCKING. So cheaply built and poorly developed, it honestly feels as though you have just picked up whatever washers you had kicking around on the floor. 

 

Using dual feed oil bearing journals fitted to side feed bearing houses is one of your favourite **** ups. As per this image -

 

 

I've personally seen this on four turbos. And I only have four friends with CR hybrids. Sorry; HAD 4 friends with CR hybrids.

 

Personally speaking I really wanted a hybrid, for all the usual reasons. So I did my research, looked around and bided my time. I ended up going to the "mapper" you speak of with a standard K03s with supporting mods which was 120K old, and left with 245bhp and 319lbft. Which is more than I've seen some of your hybrids make elsewhere, further to that I've done 6000 faultless miles in this time. During that time two of my friends "brand new" CR K03 and K04 hybrids have failed. 

 

You appear to leave a trail of destruction from forum to forum flogging on ****e turbos and then blaming oil starvation or oil contamination, until it gets to such a point that everybody thinks you are full of crap and you move onto the next forum.

 

To come on here and slag off one of the most knowledgeable and innovative tuners in the country, who has done more for the VAG tuning scene in 6 months than greedy little CR will do in their entire trading life span. Just LOL, pull the other one you pathetic little monkies.

 

(Yes I did join just to say that. And yes, it was worth it)

Edited 3 August, 2013 by Jardo

[snow_muncher]

Welcome along Jardo

 

I'm guessing your friends didn't experience much aftermarket support ?

 

Very impressive figures for you car - particularly that torque

[Jardo]

Welcome along Jardo

I'm guessing your friends didn't experience much aftermarket support ?

Very impressive figures for you car - particularly that torque

Thanks Snow Muncher; she is my baby.

Interestingly the owners of the blown hybrids actually had the "mapper" in question phone CR to express his concerns at the internals used in the units. Every time he asked to speak to the boss he was out of the office.

But when he phoned back a few seconds later posing as a customer looking to buy he didn't have an issue getting hold of him immediately.

I really like what CR are doing, providing a quick and mainstream way to purchase a fairly high tech piece of kit which should be well developed and reliable.

The issue is they are charging top whack figures for basic products which are poorly built.

The only one they got right was their old K04 hybrid, and that was only because of a certain tuner doing all the R&D work for them.

Get your **** together CR, you are offering something everybody wants but giving it a bad name due to poor quality.

It should be like shelling peas.

[missingmyvrs]

Legend ;-)

I was gonna post that pic ;-)

Need I say more

[mylo]

if you want the best hybrid turbo, there is only one choice.
I've run 3 different versions of the Ko3 blackwidow.
Currently sitting at 300bhp - 300lb/ft

Best one so far was the K300 which ran comfortably at 311bhp
CNTuning can hook you up with a good deal as he is a Beachbuggy Turbos agent.

The other option is to buy a unit that may well have been made on  friday, if you know what I mean lol

Edited 3 August, 2013 by mylo

[badger5]

............................or you could use a "mapper" who knows what they are doing!  Amazing how one mapper manages to destroy every turbo from us and others achieve fantastic figures and the turbos are still going strong.  Maybe speak to us and not judge us by others comments. 

 

Indeed... is that what you believe CR?

 

Look at your build consistency... or lack of..

Stop blaming every failure on oil contamination which is total BS and lies..... No other bearing system on the SAME FILTERED OIL SUPPLY on the engines suffers apart from your turbos.. How odd. Care to explain?

 

Look at the internals you use, the parts you use, and those you dont use, and those you randomly use... 

 

Inconsistent output is what you produce.

Some work fine, some dont..

 

Thats the reason I ceased to use you some years ago. Fed up of inconsistent quality of product which went on to fail.

 

You have made good ones... Figure out how you did it and repeat it... It will be better for you all round.

[Oet]

 

I'm getting my popcorn on!

 

On a serious note, will be interesting to hear CR respond.