Window Half Opening

[jonceebee]

I went out to my Yeti this afternoon during pouring rain to find the near side front window half down and a puddle on the front seat and front rubber mat. I know it was closed earlier in the day and can only assume it was the pressure of the Heko wind deflectors that had would it down as it kept moving back down when I pressed to close switch. It eventually settled back closed. I went out an hour later and still closed, but a further hour later it was partly down again. Very worrying this and I can see these deflectors being removed pretty soon, has anyone else had this happen?

[Brijo]

There's been something 'official' quoted about this not so long ago, so it might be worth a bit more than a casual search.  Someone would of course remind you to RTFM.  No help at all to me a week or so ago when I noticed that my o/s rear window was 'bouncing' a three or four inches down, as I was locking up to go into a funeral :S .... 

 

In desperation, I did a full unlock, then re-locked, holding the button down.  Happily, the half-open window duly closed - and stayed closed.  Might be worth trying, until some expert comes along?  

[bill7437]

I have had this on my 2012 Roomster with nearside rear electric window. It happened on two occasions and could not get

window up without difficulty - kept going up and down. Eventually after switching ignition off and on a few times it reset itself. I complained to Skoda dealer who had car back for a modification ( the insert of a felt strip they told me ) and it appeared to overcome the problem.

Regrettably last week the same thing occurred with same window - eventually reset itself but if it happens again it will go

back to the dealer- this really not good enough and I hope it does not occur on a very wet day this winter.

[33q]

Jon

I thought the window power was off without the ignition/key in so it is a bit worrying. I know the full open and close works off the remote key so maybe that is the 'power source' but oddly it's one window.

This thought may be a complete red herring but here goes. Has you battery been disconnected? My old cmax required the windows to be reset if the battery was removed.

I suppose one idea if to take off the offending windows deflector and see if it recurs

Nigel

[andyspan]

I had this happen a couple of times and there doesn't seem to be any logical reason for it and not the same window each time. The answer seems to be a reset by holding the up button down for a few seconds after the window eventually closes. There was a thread on this a while ago but not sure if the reason for this phenomenon was ever fully explained :think:  

[jonceebee]

Well I have removed the Heko wind deflectors and driven around the area, then shop car parks and so far no problems with the windows. I did notice a distinct lack of wind noise at over 50 mph from the drivers window without the deflectors, so I will probably leave them off now for good. If the problem continues from now I will try a reset and if no joy have a word with the dealers. Luckily having the leather seats and rubber footwell mats there is no water damage to be seen. Thanks for your comments

[RodN]

Hmmm... I fitted some Heko deflectors just half an hour ago.

 

Passenger side... no problem.

Driver's side, the auto detect kicks in as the window clips the deflector (just) at the rear corner. Enough that the window rebounds every time.

If I apply the very slightest pressure with my hand on the outside of the window as it is closing then all is fine. Which isn't at all practical in real time use!

 

Damn.

[Gillian]

I was driving along recently on the M5 and all 4 windows just dropped dwon completely.

Last week the rear passanger side windwo dropped halfway.

Garage said they cant help as its too far back to look on the computer. Mind you that is just typical of this garage.

also I keep finding my car unlocked. Icswear I'm not going mad I do lock it and wonder if anyone eslse has had this happen?

[freedie]

Sounds like a faulty switch by the gearlever?

[Paul52]

Hmmm... I fitted some Heko deflectors just half an hour ago.

 

Passenger side... no problem.

Driver's side, the auto detect kicks in as the window clips the deflector (just) at the rear corner. Enough that the window rebounds every time.

If I apply the very slightest pressure with my hand on the outside of the window as it is closing then all is fine. Which isn't at all practical in real time use!

 

Damn.

 

I fitted the Heko wind deflectors six month ago and have had no problems with them other than the first couple of times i opened the windows I had to help them shut (as you describe). I think it is worth persevering as with them fitted I can drive with the windows down a couple of inches and not get a shower from the rain or windscreen washers! My only minor criticism is that if I had a choice I would now go for clear rather than the smoked glass effect.

[AlleyCat`]

Don't have the wind deflectors but i had this with the drivers door window.

The "key in the door" trick to re-set the anti-trap sorted it out.

[jonceebee]

Just to update on this subject. I went into the garage yesterday morning and the window was half open again even without the deflectors. I then noticed that the auto closure did not work on this window but was ok on all the others. I tried a reset pressing and holding the open button on the key. All the windows opened as did the sunroof but the mirrors did not fold in (strange) I pressed and held the close button the windows closed and the sunroof did, but the passenger window went to the top and came half way down again. The auto shut still did not work on this window, but ok on all the others. I was beginning to get worried as the car will be standing outside over the weekend with heavy rain and strong wind forecast.

I then decided to switch on the ignition and follow the same procedure as above, this time on open all the windows, sunroof and mirrors worked. I Held down close and all seem to close ok., including the passenger window. I then tried the auto open close on this window and it now worked ok. Fingers crossed it has reset and everything will be ok

I will leave off the Heko;s until next spring and enjoy the quieter noise around the window frames.

[jeep]

I fitted the Heko wind deflectors six month ago and have had no problems with them other than the first couple of times i opened the windows I had to help them shut (as you describe). I think it is worth persevering as with them fitted I can drive with the windows down a couple of inches and not get a shower from the rain or windscreen washers! My only minor criticism is that if I had a choice I would now go for clear rather than the smoked glass effect.

I've had these for over two years on my Yeti, originally fitted because I got fed up with the water dumped into the window switch gear when opening the window in wet weather. For me the advantage of the 'smoked' glass effect is that if you leave the windows open 20mm or so when parked then that is invisible from outside the car, good if you need to leave your dog for a short time, and in shade of course.

[weasley]

I had the half-down window during the recent storms; cue one wet rear passenger seat. I had I reset the auto-up/down on that window too.

This happens too often for it to be 'just one of those things', and I have had it happen on my Audi A1 too. Always seems to happen in rain too (coincidence or linked?).

[Wiganyeti]

See previous topic Issue with driver's side electric window Post 12 / 14

I have since had the problem occur a further two times both resulting in a wet drivers seat first time and a wet passenger seat the second time.

It is easy to fix after the event , Start car , open both front window , hold open for 10 seconds , close both windows  switch off ignition . 

The concerning thing is that the windows are shut when you close the doors and only open up when you use the remote to lock it , and as you may be several yards away from the car when you do it you do not notice the window has come open , The telling sign is that if it has happened the mirrors will not fold in, so I always check now that the windows have folded in. As per my first post the concern was not that it had rained in but that the car  had been parked up all day outside of work with a window open.

It sounds to me like there should be a recall to fix this fault, would Skoda be held responsible if the car was damaged due to  the rain or if it was stolen

[Great Yeti]

See previous topic Issue with driver's side electric window Post 12 / 14

I have since had the problem occur a further two times both resulting in a wet drivers seat first time and a wet passenger seat the second time.

It is easy to fix after the event , Start car , open both front window , hold open for 10 seconds , close both windows  switch off ignition . 

The concerning thing is that the windows are shut when you close the doors and only open up when you use the remote to lock it , and as you may be several yards away from the car when you do it you do not notice the window has come open , The telling sign is that if it has happened the mirrors will not fold in, so I always check now that the windows have folded in. As per my first post the concern was not that it had rained in but that the car  had been parked up all day outside of work with a window open.

It sounds to me like there should be a recall to fix this fault, would Skoda be held responsible if the car was damaged due to  the rain or if it was stolen

 

 

Hi. If you are following the instructions you posted above. Then I think you will find you have not reset the windows. 

 

Resetting the window operation involves setting the "Force Limiter" which is designed to prevent injury should limbs or such like from being trapped / injured and the car being damaged. The limiter actually sends the window down from the closed / obstructed position which may be what is happening as it needs to be set. Disconnecting the battery or indeed a flat battery will cause the "system" to lose the setting.

 

The correct procedure for resetting the windows is:

 

1. Switch on the ignition.
2. Press and hold the relevant switch until the window is closed.
3. Release the switch.
4. Press the switch again and hold it (closed) for approx. 3 seconds
5. Turn off the ignition.

The procedure is common to a great many makes and models these days and is covered in the drivers manual. It also resets the switch operation that allows it to part or fully close the windows depending on how you press the switch.

 

Hope this helps..............Tony

[Wiganyeti]

Hi Tony 

Thanks for that , using the method I listed does appear to fix the problem, the problem first shows when you try to close the windows by using the switches in the door, the window closes and then if you do not take your finger off the switch quickly it partially lowers the window again. This is fine if you are in the car but when closing it with the remote you may not notice the windows have opened. My windows are now working fine, are you suggesting that if I was to try your method above that I would not experience the problem in the future. 

Thanks

David

[Great Yeti]

Hi Tony 

Thanks for that , using the method I listed does appear to fix the problem, the problem first shows when you try to close the windows by using the switches in the door, the window closes and then if you do not take your finger off the switch quickly it partially lowers the window again. This is fine if you are in the car but when closing it with the remote you may not notice the windows have opened. My windows are now working fine, are you suggesting that if I was to try your method above that I would not experience the problem in the future. 

Thanks

David

 

Hi David - Yes!

 

The symptoms you describe are those that require the window force limiter to be set. The mechanism does not "know" what the closing pressure should be and defaults to a fail safe mode and opens the window slightly to prevent injury / damage. Window power circuits remain live for a while even after you turn off the ignition and remove the key. Thus allowing the window to drop even after you vacate the car.

 

Just follow the directions, and as I said previously: they are in the drivers manual, so you know they will not damage your vehicle and It will clear the problem for you...................Tony

[speedsport]

Oh well....  my new Yeti will be 4 weeks old tomorrow and it seems to have joined the over sensitive window limiter club.

Unfortunately, trying to rest it as per the instructions isn't making any difference, so it looks as though it's going to be a case of letting the Skoda garage have a go.

[speedsport]

Phoned my selling dealer (Lookers, Eccles) to ask them to look at the car. Was put through to one of their technicians who helpfully suggested that as i was on my mobile phone, I sit in the car and follow his instructions......

Ignition on (don't start the engine),

Lower the offending window by pushing the switch down (the switch on the driver's door) and keep holding it down until the window's fully open.

Then pull the switch up, and keep holding it up as the window rises and at the same time apply gentle pressure outwards on the glass near the top.*

Keep the switch up for a further 10 seconds after the window closes & a click should be heard.

The window should now be reset.

 

Amazing....  it is!

 

* The application of pressure on the glass isn't in the handbook, so presumably that's something that the technician has discovered through trial & error and was happy to pass on.

 

A couple of minutes on the phone has saved me a trip to the dealers. Now, that's clever service!!

Edited 1 June, 2016 by speedsport

[33q]

It looks like I'm now the latest victim to the opening windows problem

We have been away for a week and I think the car was not used for a few days before and after so say 10 days sitting locked in my alarmed garage.

I didn't notice at first except that the engine nouse sounded higher and I initially put that down the the very quiet 108 hire car but then I noticed both the passenger and drivers windows were down about half an inch.

The next day ..... same again

This morning the windows are fully up

Interestingly I did about 200 miles yesterday where previously just short trips.

I just wonder whether at 4 years old the battery is on its way?

In a way that will be odd as I have not changed a battery in years. My wife's Mini at over 9 years old is still original, My Civic was still on its original at 11 years and my wife's old Astra was again 11 years.

I will monitor my theory and see

[Brijo]

About once a week, all windows right down and back up again, right to the stop, on either the fob button or the centre console switch.  Just as a reminder to the Window Elves who wind the hidden handles. 

 

(Well, it seems to work !) 

[Llanigraham]

About once a week, all windows right down and back up again, right to the stop, on either the fob button or the centre console switch.  Just as a reminder to the Window Elves who wind the hidden handles. 

 

(Well, it seems to work !) 

 

I thought they were gnomes!!

I don't trust elves!!

[Brijo]

I thought they were gnomes!!

I don't trust elves!!

 

Ah, but they do a crew-change at the border, don't they?  Simply clever. 

[dasower]

Just thought I would add my problem to the list.

 

Had car in garage ( not dealer ) for checkup, tyres brakes and "stuff" they took the battery off for some reason which was not fully explained.

 

Anyway when I collected the car the front windows were 1/2 way up ( or down ) and as I paid up and set off I closed them.

 

So got home with a lighter wallet and pressed the remote to lock and fold in the mirrors which has never failed since I got the car in July 2013.

 

And the car locked and alarm confirmation sounded but mirrors not folding in. Tried folding mirrors on door control, worked OK.

 

Next tried to open front windows, nothing ! both rear windows opened and closed when remote locking used. Tried front windows with ignition on and they worked OK.

 

Going to try the reset