CAVE & CTHE 1.4TSI, Just reply please if you have had an engine replaced.

[Rooted]

Please no smart ar5e remarks and digs about how bad the cars are and why they should never have been Petrols and automatic.

& No interest in stories about how your car has no problems etc, the majority do not have problems, we know that.

The post is an attempt at a serious question and thread to get an idea of members here & their vRS's that have had engines replaced or rebuilt.

 

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Please just reply if you have had an Engine Replaced, rebuilt or required the DSG box replaced.

Current owners and past owners please.

*Or if you are in the process of trying to get and Engine or Gearbox replaced.  ie Skoda have agreed to replace or repair*

& if you had an engine replaced WAS THIS BY SKODA & UNDER WARRANTY.?

 

So was it a CAVE 2010-2012, or a CTHE 2012-2013

What month and year first registered & when did the engine get rebuilt or replaced, and at what mileage on the car.

 

Did it get a new engine or a rebuild carried out.

Has the car been OK since getting a new engine, rebuilt or having been fitted with a new gearbox?

Any problems with anything else after the car has been in getting the Engine, box, drive train dealt with?

 

thanks,

george

 

Plenty of posts here in this thread & dozens of more threads on the forum for people looking for help or some answers.

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/252759-fabia-vrs-oil-fix

[philhoward]

July 2012 CAVE.  Full engine replaced at 22,000 (approx) in March 2013 due to burnt inlet valve (along with turbo and catalytic converter).  Under Skoda UK Warranty although replacement was done by Skoda dealer in Belgium.  No issues - 7 working days from start to finish.

 

No issues since.  Used approx 1 litre oil in 18,000 miles on new engine (previous was 3 litres in 18,000).

[StanUK]

2013 63 plate CTHE (engine built in Oct 2012 I think).  Engine replaced at 6200 miles in September this year as it was using 1L oil per 1000 miles.  This was a new engine and done under warranty by Skoda.  I've only just done another 1000 miles since, but have noticed an intermittent gearbox issue;  sometimes there is a groaning/whining sound just as the car shifts from 2nd to 3rd and then from 4th to 5th.  Am in discussions with Skoda UK about this.

[PaddyVRS]

Had Cave 2011, replaced at 35k (got car second hand 2 months previous)

New (or recon) CAVE as far as I know. Much better now!

[MilgeS]

Sept 2012 CTHE 62 plate - Engine replaced at 6759 miles, now on 9265, used 750ml of oil in roughly 2500 miles.

[stevie.d]

1st owner march 2011 cave 11 plate - engine replaced at 21000 miles and very little oil use over two years (traded against new yeti sept 2013)

[Rsrob]

October 2010 CAVE 60 plate - Engine replaced on 31 July 2013 @ 26.729 miles with new CAVE engine under skoda manufacturers warranty, now on 31.993 miles all good now no issues

[jon boyz]

Purchased May 2011 high oil consumption from new told its normal finally had engine replaced with another cave recon unit from skoda , shortly after gearbox leaked had to wait 4 weeks for new mechatronics units to be fitted . Gearbox leaking again shortly after rightened seems to be ok .6 months after engine replaced still using a lot of oil roughly 1 litre per 1500 miles very disappointed because we like the car but are fed up with it now thinking of trading it in for Octavia vrs diesel will it be more reliable previous fabia vrs tdi was superb ?

[Rooted]

Thank you very much so far, really sad for those that Skoda UK fail to see owning a properly repaired car.

 

Please,

if you could keep coming forward with your experience & the Warranty work that has been done,

it might be a help to those that Skoda & VAG are still making things difficult for,

Many still being required to jump through hoops, of Oil Consumption test, Breather Mod,  more consumption tests, and yet still saying Oil usage not high enough.

Time now after 3 years that Skoda/VAG came clean and accept they turned out quite a few engines with bad components or tolerances. & not just in the vRS, the 180 ps/185 ps Twinchargers in the Polo, Ibiza Cupra and A1,

 

Thanks, George

[Big Sheep]

Sept 2011 CAVE. Engine replaced at 14,000 miles with another CAVE unit following high oil consumption (500km per 0.5 litre).

Very moderate oil usage so far on replacement engine but well within handbook limit. Car now on 22,000 miles.

[JerryT]

Early CAV engine probably late 2010 vintage (car registered March 2011) valve burnt out at 27000 miles. Had consumed over 12 litres of oil between servicing with the majority being used between 10,000 miles and when the engine went pop. Replaced under warranty in October 2012 and I covered an additional 20000+ miles afterwards. The replacement unit was a either a new or refurbed engine but allegedly to the latest build spec at the time. Since the replacement I only used a couple of extra litres of oil.

Never had an issue with the DSG.

Now own a new Octy III VRS TDI. Thought I might as well have an oil burner after the Furby

[mystic_monkeyman]

Took delivery of new car in July 2012 and have 1st engine replacement in December the same year (over xmas and new year) and took over 3 weeks for job completion due to wrong engine being sent (apparently). Had just over 3000 miles on the clock. 2nd engine replacement took place at the first service at 7500 miles and took just over a week (dealer had engine already in stock for another customer).Had the DSG clutch pack replaced at the same time. This started my dealings with Skoda to reject the car which they agreed. However this engine has only used 1 liter of oil in just under 2500 miles.

[arnold]

May 2011 vrs  cave engine replaced after 12,000 miles burning oil at a rate of 1 litre per thousand miles. Replacement cave now done 10,000 miles and used approximately 3 litres. No problems at all dealing with skoda and reimbursed for 12 litres of oil used. Breather mod fitted and oil weighing prior to engine replacement. Now sold and bought a decent car The octavia VRS.

[the mad monk]

61 plate, at 10k ish had breather pipe mod which was no better and then around the 12 k mark had a full engine rebuild, had used 10 litres up-til this point. Was supposed to only be a short engine but a full one was sent and permission was sought before fitting. now at 17k and used 4.5 litres before service (needed topped up but was getting fresh oil so as it was bottom of hatched area im assuming another 6-700 ml to take it 3/4 way up) so all im all still a problem. i still love the car but it WILL be gone before the warranty expires

[vRSy]

March 2011 CAVE.

Piston ring landing failure after approx 15k mileage

[jsteel91]

September 2010 CAVE. Fully replaced engine (with another CAVE) in march 2013 apox 19,500 miles due to exessive oil consumpion (0.7lts in 200 miles)

 

Skoda UK carrried out the warrenty claim, took 3-4 days. The car is now on 26,000 miles with no troubles at all. The DSG has never missed a beat.

[c@n]

I bought the car on April 2013, it's built on 2011 and purchased by the 1st owner on March 2012. The was on 4.000 km when I bought ti and engine replaced by the new one when it was 7300 km.. It was using 1 lt in every 600 kms.

Now the car is 11.500 km and only add 0.5 lt...

Till know there is no issues with the DSG...

By the way the new engine is also CAVE engine, built on 2012..

ServicePASAOGLU

[mousebat]

2011 (61) VW Polo GTI - I guess started on a CAVE?  

 

After throwing nearly 400 quid's worth of oil in it, realised something was seriously wrong.

 

• Breather pipe mod at ~16k after 2 failed oil consumption tests (1000 miles each). It did nothing except make engine louder.

 

• Engine replaced at ~21k miles after another 2 failed consumption tests (660 miles each this time?).

 

• Still drinking oil - current consumption was 4 litres in 1100 miles.  

 

• Currently In the midst of new set of oil consumption tests which will inevitably lead to 3rd engine!

 

• DSG box is now juddering like I've driven over a cattle grid and stinks in stop start traffic - it's always been inept but makes me look like I have a serious lack of clutch control.  VW technician said no fault codes and they can't replicate it?  Well they won't if they just drive it sedately round the dealership!

 

Sorry for the whinge...

 

MB

[GpVrs]

Sounds all familer this. I bought a 2011 vrs with 21000 on the clock and found out that at 7000miles it had a new engine and 13000 miles a new gearbox. Don't think I would have bothered if I known all the problems with them.

Oil was a problem with it was using nearly 2 litres per 500 miles and then had the vibration through the gearbox so off it went to skoda.

Been told the twin clutch was going to replaced and a breather mod fitted to the engine so was booked in for the Monday just gone.

Got a phone call on Wednesday and not good. The previous owner unknown to me had it remapped so warranty out the window and now in a right situation they either want around 2 grand off me for the work done (and it still won't be covered by skoda) or pay £400 to have the car put back together with the old parts and judder away with its self and drink oil like I drink lager.

For now I have left it in pieces at skoda and going through the legal channels only had the car 11weeks!!!

Sorry to whinge and go on

[micloi]

If you bought it as a skoda approved vehicle they should have checked these things themselves. You cannot be at fault for a car you bought from them because of what the previous owner did!

[Evil Miyagi]

Jan 2011 60 plate CAVE engine replaced under warranty at 34k with new block (same ancillaries), now on 55k with little or no oil usage.

[GpVrs]

If you bought it as a skoda approved vehicle they should have checked these things themselves. You cannot be at fault for a car you bought from them because of what the previous owner did!

Wasn't bought within the skoda network was bought from a local dealer very unlucky

[Rooted]

Sorry to hear this.

Maybe post in the Oil Thread. Maybe more assistance can be offered there.

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/252759-fabia-vrs-oil-fix

 

'Sale of goods' and Warranty on Major parts, Drivetrain etc, possibly if you bought from a Proper 'Trader', One with a Licence and Insurance.

Your Warranty is with the 'Dealer', maybe only 3 months, or was the car sold with 12 months Warranty.

(No manufacturers Warranty left up to 3 years from first registered if they are going to argue it is invalidated as they are doing.)

 

but you bought what you bought, Remapped or not,

 That is for the Dealer to check. They are responsible for what they bought in and sold on, not enough for the Dealer to say they did not know it was Re-mapped. As long as they do not start saying you had ir Remapped after you bought it.

( Skoda saying the vehicles Manufacturers Warranty is invalidated due to the ECU being previously or currently Re-mapped is a problem,

that is going to be difficult. But then you know that already)

 

http://skoda.co.uk/SiteCollectionDocuments/Brochures/Warranty-Booklet-single.pdf

Page 6. 'Exclusions'.

 

So really Trading Standards advice and your Legal Advice.

Skoda can be right to say the Vehicle has been Modified.

But the important thing and kind of the point of this thread is, NON MODIFIED 1.4 TSI TWINCHARGERS can use oil and break,

 

That is why i started this thread, just to get an idea of when, what and why with members vRS's needing engines/gearboxes.

Buyers will have no idea on purchase if Enigines/ECU's or Gearboxes are Modified or not.

Buyers have no idea if the Steering, Braking, XDS settings are re-set from Factory Settings.

EVEN SKODA DEALERS ARE NOT GUARANTEED TO HAVE DIAGNOSED A CAR, CHECKED THE ECU  AND PUT SETTINGS BACK TO FACTORY SETTINGS.

Buying used is really a lottery, even if the car is Skoda Dealer Serviced before you collect it.

 

all the best with things.

 

george

[GpVrs]

Sorry to hear this.

Maybe post in the Oil Thread. Maybe more assistance can be offered there.

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/252759-fabia-vrs-oil-fix

 

'Sale of goods' and Warranty on Major parts, Drivetrain etc, possibly if you bought from a Proper 'Trader', One with a Licence and Insurance.

Your Warranty is with the 'Dealer', maybe only 3 months, or was the car sold with 12 months Warranty.

(No manufacturers Warranty left up to 3 years from first registered if they are going to argue it is invalidated as they are doing.)

 

but you bought what you bought, Remapped or not,

 That is for the Dealer to check. They are responsible for what they bought in and sold on, not enough for the Dealer to say they did not know it was Re-mapped. As long as they do not start saying you had ir Remapped after you bought it.

( Skoda saying the vehicles Manufacturers Warranty is invalidated due to the ECU being previously or currently Re-mapped is a problem,

that is going to be difficult. But then you know that already)

 

http://skoda.co.uk/SiteCollectionDocuments/Brochures/Warranty-Booklet-single.pdf

Page 6. 'Exclusions'.

 

So really Trading Standards advice and your Legal Advice.

Skoda can be right to say the Vehicle has been Modified.

But the important thing and kind of the point of this thread is, NON MODIFIED 1.4 TSI TWINCHARGERS can use oil and break,

 

That is why i started this thread, just to get an idea of when, what and why with members vRS's needing engines/gearboxes.

Buyers will have no idea on purchase if Enigines/ECU's or Gearboxes are Modified or not.

Buyers have no idea if the Steering, Braking, XDS settings are re-set from Factory Settings.

EVEN SKODA DEALERS ARE NOT GUARANTEED TO HAVE DIAGNOSED A CAR, CHECKED THE ECU  AND PUT SETTINGS BACK TO FACTORY SETTINGS.

Buying used is really a lottery, even if the car is Skoda Dealer Serviced before you collect it.

 

all the best with things.

 

george

Thanks george. The finance company have now been involved with the dealer I bought it from and he has 5 days to come up with a solution! Only made 3 payments on the vehicle but so glad I have not found all this out 12 months down the line.

The finance company said they will get there specialist in if need be to find out when the car was remapped (they seem to think it will be stored on the ecu). Just a matter of waiting now prob a long time so looking at buying a run around till gets sorted.

[Rooted]

Good.

The Finance company need to do this because it is their car, you are only the registered keeper at present.

Dealers even Independents need to meet their responsibilities, that why you buy from them and not go private.

 

All the best.

george