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#1 Tom Tallon

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Posted 10 February 2014 - 20:26

I've got a friend who is taken with the idea of the latest offer of a deal on the basic Fabia S 1.2.

 

I see its got 60 PS - he's by no means a big engine buff but will this amount of horsepower suffice.

 

 



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Posted 10 February 2014 - 20:37

A 1.2 naturally aspirated old engine with 60 PS in a car weighing over a tonne?

 

For me, no.

 

Plus being an old engine it's got worse fuel economy and higher exhaust emissions than the superior 1.2tsi.

 

If it's just to pop to the shops and bingo it might be fine.

Otherwise I think it'll get frustrating quite quickly.

 

Personally, I'd buy something used for the same money and get a far better car, with better trim and options with better running costs.

 

It takes nearly 17 seconds to get to 62mph ! :wonder:



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Posted 10 February 2014 - 20:41

A 1.2 naturally aspirated old engine with 60 PS in a car weighing over a tonne?

 

For me, no.

 

Plus being an old engine it's got worse fuel economy and higher exhaust emissions than the superior 1.2tsi.

 

If it's just to pop to the shops and bingo it might be fine.

Otherwise I think it'll get frustrating quite quickly.

 

Personally, I'd buy something used for the same money and get a far better car, with better trim and options with better running costs.

 

It takes nearly 17 seconds to get to 62mph ! :wonder:

 

Thanks for this - just as I thought- obviously not something to run with the lorries on the M1!!!!!!!



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Posted 10 February 2014 - 20:48

My mate had the the three-pot in his 9n Polo - I remember hitting a hill on the way home from Stranraer - it felt like we were barely moving. It does make a characterful sound though.

As BF says though, fine if you're just running about town.

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Posted 10 February 2014 - 20:51

Could not find that deal.

There is the 1.2 htp 70 hp se version for 9k and the tsi 1.2 estate at 10k I estate form.
is there another deal I have missed?

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Posted 10 February 2014 - 20:53

The estate is a far better buy with the quite nice 1.2tsi for £9,995 including silver paint and a spare wheel.

Don't think there are many left though...

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Posted 10 February 2014 - 21:11

The ŠKODA Fabia offer

We have two great offers currently available on the ŠKODA Fabia:

 

You can now get your hands on a brand new ŠKODA Fabia Hatch SE 1.2 12V 69PS model for just £8,995 OTR.

 

You can also get a brand new ŠKODA Fabia Estate SE 1.2 TSI 86PS model for just £9,995 OTR.

 

Both models come with specification including: 15" 'Rotare' alloy wheels, manual air conditioning, a category 1 alarm with tilt sensor, additional rear speakers, metallic paint and a temporary spare steel wheel.

 

Both models are available in Brilliant Silver metallic and Denim Blue metallic paint only, but you will have to hurry as we only have limited stocks available.

 

Just when you thought these offers couldn't get any better, we are also offering 7.9% APR representative† when purchased through ŠKODA Finance.

 

For more information please contact your local ŠKODA retailer.
 
3 BIG REASONS to buy a ŠKODA Fabia
  • Great monthly payments from £109*
  • 0% APR representative
  • Optional 3 years’ servicing, maintenance and tyres**


Solutions from ŠKODA Finance

Solutions is designed around both you and your budget, working to your preferred repayments over an agreed term.

 

Whether you can afford to put down a large deposit or would prefer to pay something smaller up-front, we have a range of finance packages available to you – making it even easier to get your hands on a brand new ŠKODA Fabia.

 

Here is an example of how putting down a larger deposit can achieve small and manageable monthly payments from just £109*:

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Model name Monthly payment Customer deposit Fabia Hatch S 1.2 12V 60PS £109  customer deposit £2,922.40
Contact your local ŠKODA retailer for more information.


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Posted 10 February 2014 - 21:24

I'd definitely pay the extra grand for the 1.2 TSi - 86ps is the minimum you need to punt the Fabia around - it ain't no featherweight.
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Posted 10 February 2014 - 21:52

I'd definitely pay the extra grand for the 1.2 TSi - 86ps is the minimum you need to punt the Fabia around - it ain't no featherweight.


Got to agree with Brian 69, I've got the 105hp TSI and although the 86hp is slightly less power than mine, it's definitely worth the extra cash.

Better engine and better spec plus more space for 1k more, it would be a no brainer.
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Posted 10 February 2014 - 21:57

Its not as bad as people make out. Iv got the 1.2 12v 70ps and im by no means flooring it everywhere. I live in derbyshire which is a very hilly area, and its not too bad. Its got enough poke for some simple overtakes. I never rev it above 5k either.

If you want to get thrills from acceleration youll need something else (i get my thrills elsewhere) but its really not that bad. Especially if its just me on my own.

Its cruising nicely at 3000rpm at 70mph and 3500rpm at 80mph.

It is an old engine yes, but the benefit of this is we know its had any little niggles ironed out and we know what kind of mileage and reliability to expect (more than we can say for the vrs im sure we can all agree).

Iv driven a 105 1.2 tsi too, and its a crackin engine. Pulls well from low revs and is a joy to drive. But its £1700 (i think).

It all depends what you want from the car. As i said, i get my speed kicks elsewhere so im happy pottering around in the little htp and planning my overtakes a little more.

Its by no means a frustrating, i dont find. Not unless your after a fast drive with a full 5 on board. Because that wont happen unless everywheres downhill haha

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Posted 10 February 2014 - 22:04

The estate.is clearly a steal... Shame no DSG option though.

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Posted 10 February 2014 - 22:08

It all boils down to what they're driving now, if they're not bothered about the lack of power and performance then go for it but there's better deals to be had with better engines and spec for not much more money if it's a Fabia that they're after.

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Posted 10 February 2014 - 22:31

I tried both, dealer brought the saloon to our house but did not come with us for a test drive. This we surmised was to limit the weight the car had to move. The estate is so much better for the extra cash, I bought it and so far it's great.
Test drive both if possible, it's chalk and cheese. Just need to talk your mate into an estate then try to get one.
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Posted 10 February 2014 - 22:35

Id be impressed if you drove a saloon mate ;) haha

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Posted 10 February 2014 - 22:42

Personally think the Tsi engine a much better choice but why not consider a Fabia Reaction with the 69 engine - seems to be plenty 63 plate pre- reg reactions available on the Skoda website at 8,700 or even less - quite a funky looking car and cracking value on these pre-reg deals.

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 07:02

I'd definitely pay the extra grand for the 1.2 TSi - 86ps is the minimum you need to punt the Fabia around - it ain't no featherweight.

Am I the only one with a 60 that shifts, alright, not so much up hill but is shifts.



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Posted 11 February 2014 - 07:13

Am I the only one with a 60 that shifts, alright, not so much up hill but is shifts.

 

I think that depends how you define "shifts".

Skoda claim a 0-62mph time of 16.5 seconds.

 

Personally anthing 8-12 seconds I call normal.

 

I guess it depends what you are used to?



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Posted 11 February 2014 - 07:30

I think that depends how you define "shifts".
Skoda claim a 0-62mph time of 16.5 seconds.

Personally anthing 8-12 seconds I call normal.

I guess it depends what you are used to?


Thanks to boss and others? this sums it up for me. - 0-62 in the time he quotes.If you're driving on the A1 with the lorries on the inside all the time you'd get frustrated. my mate does do some long journeys.

worried also about comparisons !!! I' m about to get a BMW 335D with 0-62 in 4.8 seconds for a saloon! If he travels with me then gets in his 60 PS Fabia he might feel the comparison badly!

Edited by Tom Tallon, 11 February 2014 - 07:32.


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 08:43

Not tried the 60bhp 1.2 but my brother has my old 1.2 70bhp engine and I've got 1.2 tsi 105. The 70bhp is fine no ball of fire but revs very freely much more so than the tsi and in first and second gears is quite nippy will cruise on motorway fine but anything above 60 65mph and the mpg drops off a lot. the Tsi is better for long runs and will get a few more mpg. Best thing to do is to test drive both and see how you get on. Yeah there will be no comparison to the 335d lol you have to take it for what it is. 



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Posted 11 February 2014 - 09:37

[quote name="Otaylor38" post="3640514" timestamp="1392071722"]Id be impressed if you drove a saloon mate ;) haha[/quote

Oops! Think I was drinking in one!
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Posted 11 February 2014 - 10:02

I test drove an older 04 plate 1.2 8v when I was helping my girlfriend find a first car last year. I was really impressed with the drive considering it had something like 69bhp?. Didn't go for it though as they wanted too much and wern't prepared to do a deal.



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Posted 11 February 2014 - 17:29

60 hp HTP is OK as a short distance car but particularly in the S format the seats are very basic.

 

Got the HTP to an indicated 100 mph and it feels quicker than 16 seconds to 60 mph.

 

If you have had a 850 mini in the past with 32 hp you will know what low power is but even then you could still get places quite quick, you be near deaf at the end of the journey of course.

 

Shame they never gave it a sixth gear, got the CO2 under 120 grams/km as it owuld have been even better than the pretty good car it already is.

 

At least you have no worries about turbos blowing up (or superchargers as well as in our Fabia).


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 20:34

60 hp HTP is OK as a short distance car but particularly in the S format the seats are very basic.
 
Shame they never gave it a sixth gear, got the CO2 under 120 grams/km as it owuld have been even better than the pretty good car it already is.


Iv often thought my se 70hp would be better with thenpre facelift gear ratios (slightly lower) with a 6th gear stuck on the end to get the 70mph 3000rpm ratio that the 2010 onward engine has.

I guess that would cost more to make though

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Posted 12 February 2014 - 16:11

Iv often thought my se 70hp would be better with thenpre facelift gear ratios (slightly lower) with a 6th gear stuck on the end to get the 70mph 3000rpm ratio that the 2010 onward engine has.

I guess that would cost more to make though

 

Since getting it under 120 grams woudl have resulted it in being £90 car tax as I understand then they could have charged £50 or so more on the transfer price from Skoda Auto to SUK and everyone in the chain would have been happy except the UK Gov which would have last heaps of money over the years of plus less CO2 which would save the planet.

 

All EU manufacturers are suppose to their cars under 120 g/km CO2 or be fined.



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Posted 12 February 2014 - 20:37

I dont see how gear ratios effects co2 though. Its still the same engine just different revs to wheel speeds.

Unless they test the co2 at specific road speeds in different gears? Then id understand

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Posted 12 February 2014 - 20:53

A fuel (and hence CO2) saving will be made with lower RPM at equal power output because there is less frictional loss, but more so for petrol engines because the engine will be operating at a wider throttle and hence higher compression.

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Posted 12 February 2014 - 21:10

So is the co2 taken over some sort of average?

I understand how its produced, and the less fuel less co2 bit. But i dont get how gear ratios are related.

What do they do while testing it? Drive it through a series of scenarios and take the average?

Im finding it difficult to explain myself. But what im kinda trying to say is that co2 obviously comes from the engine, and gear ratios merely change the engine speed to the wheel speed.

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Posted 12 February 2014 - 21:52

Yes there is a set programme run on a rolling road - every car tested follows the same driving pattern of distance and speed on the rollers. The test includes quite a lengthy period at idle, hence why the stop-start skews the numbers so much. See wikipedia.



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Posted 12 February 2014 - 23:04

Ahh! Now it makes sense :).

Im not a fan of stop start though. Seems like a bad idea to me.

Cheers :)

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Posted 12 February 2014 - 23:17

Ahh! Now it makes sense :).
Im not a fan of stop start though. Seems like a bad idea to me.
Cheers :)


It's no bad idea, it works. My wife's Fiat 500 has it and it was strange at first but when you get used to it, it makes sense.

Watch you MPG drop when your stopped at lights or a junction with the engine just ticking over, with the stop/start working this doesn't happen which means you get more MPG and more importantly, to the Govt anyway, less CO2 emissions.

The engine fires up instantly as soon as you touch the clutch, you're gonna have to start liking it coz every car eventually will do it anyway.