Coding / Adaptation Help required

[xpower]

Hi all,

 

I have a 2014 Octavia vRS, it has front assist fitted (camera) which includes lane assist, rain sensor and light sensor, I have Bi-Xenon AFSII headlights.

 

I am trying to see if it is possible to code High Beam Assist (HBA module 20)

Here’s what I’ve done so far:

 

(1)Coded the gateway to include Module 20 – HBA (I have ticked it)

 

(2) Check the adaptations in the gateway (HBA coded)

 

(3) Coded the front assist to include HBA and light assist (Module A5 frt sens. Drv assist)

(4) Checked in adaptations that HBA is coded

 

(5) Changed adaptations in 09 CCM to include menu for HBA in infotainment

(Menu is now present and works)

 

When I activate the HBA by pushing the stalk forwards I get the correct symbol on the dash to show it has been activated with no errors (this threw up an error until I coded step 3)

 

However – When I activate it is just doesn’t work, the symbol is there on the dash but the high beams don’t come on at all and therefore don’t switch automatically.

I can override them by pushing the main beam stalk forwards again reverting to normal mode at which point the auto high beam symbol goes out.

 

I was to believe that the HBA module was part of the camera and light assist module and therefore only coding and adaptations would be required.  I can’t find any for adaptations or coding options relevant to the HBA.  The Long coder doesn’t show any tick boxes in my CAN gateway, as it must be too new.

However there is still clearly no communication to the 20-HBA Module

 

Any info is welcomed

i will post this up on the ross-tech forum to see if anyone has had any luck on Golfs or Leons

IF we can get this working there will be a lot of vRS owners who would like it, its like a £300 optional extra 

 

Thanks

Edited 14 June, 2014 by xpower

[Neily03]

 

IF we can get this working there will be a lot of vRS owners who would like it, its like a £300 optional extra 

 

 

I'd love this on mine! Sorry I can't be of any help though.

[andyvee]

Do you need to code instrument cluster as well?

Or steering wheel??

Have you done an autoscan since this as module 20 is the smaller camera for HBA so you probably don't need to enable it in the CAN gateway

[neiln]

Another vrs owner here that would be interested.  What you need is a scan from a car with the high beam assist, there are a few brisky members with hba... Think there may have been a thread discussing it...any of them close to you and able to let you vcds scan their car?

[Neily03]

Another vrs owner here that would be interested. What you need is a scan from a car with the high beam assist, there are a few brisky members with hba... Think there may have been a thread discussing it...any of them close to you and able to let you vcds scan their car?

The scan needs to be from a car with lane assist and high beam assist and there won't em many about....

[Frallan]

I might be wrong but how did you test that it's not working?

I have the highbeam assist on mine and it won't work if your not driving over 60km/h (35mph?)

[neiln]

Is that initiation speed something that can be coded? Probably... So have a look for where it might be and check its set/ set it?

[andyvee]

There are 2 adaptations, the speed at which it is active above, an d the deactivation lower threshold, which is lower.

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[xpower]

I've cracked it and it works!!! Will post up details later when I get 5 :-)

[neiln]

Well done sir!   :clap:

[andyvee]

Nice one, I'll add it to the adaptations thread.

 

Your next challenge - stop the 'Reduced Functionality' message when Traffic Sign Recognition is enabled

 

If only I had a car with Lane Assist to play with .........

[Neily03]

Nice one!

[aki78]

I've cracked it and it works!!! Will post up details later when I get 5 :-)

Nice job

Could you please check for me if there is possibility to change the sensitivity.

Something like this (bottom of the page): http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=264149.20

I have factory HBA (without lane assist) and I'm not satisfied with the sensitivity. I would like to set it higher as it sometimes switches off high beams too late.

I'm planning to buy VCDS and I'm very interested.

Thanks in advance.

[accobra]

Nice one. Looking forward to this one.

[xpower]

Ok, so the whole CAN gateway coding and fault code threw me but it doesn't matter.  Module 20 (high beam assist) is apparently (again only a rough idea from what I've read) is if you don't have lane assist.

So you don't need to perform any coding on the gateway to get this working. The coding i did earlier on this thread works fine - just doesn't look like I was going quick enough (or maybe it wasn't PITCH black and thats why it didn't work.)

Last night I was coming home and the high beams came one automatically - then switched off as a vehicle approached! Super :clap:

 

As for the traffic sign recognition I will look into it but TBH I have enabled it today and tried it and without the Sat Nav information it is really hit and miss! I went past 3 x 30mph signs today (small ones not the normal large ones) and it didn't even pick them up - stayed at the previous 50mph.  Looks like it only works on the normal large ones and maybe even the medium diameter ones, not accurate enough to really use.

 

Anyways the HBA.......

Edited 15 June, 2014 by xpower

[xpower]

To code High Beam Assist (for vehicles with Lane Assist fitted) - All Std mk3 vRS's

Access Module 09 - enter security code 31347

Go to (2) Assistant light functions - Menu light assistant and change to 'PRESENT'

Access Module A5

Go to Long Coding, change byte 2 Bit 0 to a "1" or use drop down menu to select "Coding_light_assist High_beam_assist"

That's it - HBA Should now work. You know it is activated correctly as you can go into the light settings menu on the vehicle and you will see "light assist" - turn that on.

Now with the headlight switch set to auto push the left stalk toward the front of the car, it should show you the HBA logo at the bottom of the Maxidot display.

OK, we then have some optional extras if you like:

Controller A5 - Enter security code 20103

Adaptations

Speed that HBA will activate, I have set mine to 20kph

Speed that it will deactivate, U have set mine to 10Kph

Then there is this adaptation for urban detection area - I haven't tried this yet but I'm hoping it may allow you to use HBA in a lit area. Around here there are still many streets with the old street lamps that only light up a 1m radius underneath them. Switch to NOT PRESENT (NOT TESTED YET)

Enjoy!

ps Anyone who wants to send their £300 skoda optional extra payment to me it will be much appreciated

Edited 15 June, 2014 by xpower

[Neily03]

Nice work, I soooo want this!  Andyvee?

[xpower]

Nice job

Could you please check for me if there is possibility to change the sensitivity.

Something like this (bottom of the page): http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=264149.20

I have factory HBA (without lane assist) and I'm not satisfied with the sensitivity. I would like to set it higher as it sometimes switches off high beams too late.

I'm planning to buy VCDS and I'm very interested.

Thanks in advance.

I will have a look but the only adaptations I have seen for HBA is in the A5 module (front assist)

Activation speed

Deactivation speed

Light level it activates at (std is 3lx)

Light level it deactivates at (std is 20lx)

Not really sure how the last 2 work as they are miles apart :-|

Edited 15 June, 2014 by xpower

[Neily03]

I will have a look but the only adaptations I have seen for HBA is in the A5 module (front assist)

Activation speed

Deactivation speed

Light level it activates at (std is 3lx)

Light level it deactivates at (std is 20lx)

Not really sure how the last 2 work as they are miles apart :-|

 

The level it activates will be the ambient light level, 3 lux and then 20 lux for it to deactivate....

[aki78]

I will have a look but the only adaptations I have seen for HBA is in the A5 module (front assist)

Activation speed

Deactivation speed

Light level it activates at (std is 3lx)

Light level it deactivates at (std is 20lx)

Not really sure how the last 2 work as they are miles apart :-|

Good news, thank you very much.

[xpower]

Damn just realised you need to check the coding of the 09 CCM as well BYTE 2 bit 0-2, if doesn't have light assist selected then you will need to do so. I've set mine to come on at 10lx in the A5 adaptations and it seems to work much better!

[Black_Sheep]

Good work!!!

Can this only be coded with the beta version of VCDS?

Next challenge - any chance you can recode front assist and standard cruise on VRS to ACC?

[xpower]

Good work!!!

Can this only be coded with the beta version of VCDS?

Next challenge - any chance you can recode front assist and standard cruise on VRS to ACC?

You need the front radar for ACC :-( Edited 16 June, 2014 by xpower

[Black_Sheep]

Front Assist has the radar - are the controllers different?

[xpower]

Ah I see - I don't have front assist so I don't even have a car available to play with. I would imagine working on the same principal as HBA you may be able to activate it using coding if you have the radar.