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Evening all

 

I've been busy enjoying my vrs estate for about 5 months and today disaster has struck.

 

Got a couple of warnings...

 

1. Engine light flashed, which according to the book is exhaust control system

2. Had a dreaded oil pressure, stop car warning

 

I feel physically sick, the car is about 5 months out of warranty, the AA are recovering it to my local dealer for them to look at tomorrow.

 

I have a deep sense of worry about this, I'm far from flush with cash, especially since it's xmas, what the hell am I going to do if this bill comes back in the thousands?

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Sorry to hear this.

 

So no Low Oil Warning Message or Yellow Light first,  or a Red Low Oil Warning Light,   just right to a Message to stop?

 

Have you been checking the Oil & topping up,

& when was it last up to 3.6 litres of oil in the engine?

 

How old a car,

how many miles,

 has it got a Warranty History,

full service history,

New Engine already or Oil Consumption Test Carried Out, Breather & Valve Mod done, ECU update.

(sorry,

if out of warranty 5 months is it a 2011 May/June first registered?  So a CAVE engine )

 

In effect i am asking,

has Skoda had to deal with the car before or since you got it?

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Just got back from dealers.

 

No low oil warnings or anything like that.  I've been keeping an eye on the oil, it's a little thirsty but i've topped it up.  The engine / exhaust light only flashes briefly on reasonably aggressive acceleration (overtaking sort of acceleration, not thrashing it).  I thought this might be a misfire.

 

It's a 2011 with 38k on the clock.  Full Skoda service history at all the correct intervals, and I actually was going to book it in for it's 40k service at the end of Jan.

 

AA man came round and ran diagnostics, apparently they have some new Bosch diagnostics gear.  It came up clean as a whistle, so he ran it again got the same.  Recovered the car to the dealer and he ran the diagnostics again, again nothing.

 

The guy from the AA was brilliant I have to say, he could see I was on the edge of depair and anger, says he hasn't seen many "intermittent" oil pressure issues./

 

Dealers are gong to look at it in the morning.

 

goneoffski - I checked into all of this before I bought the car, I was really thorough to the point of speaking to the dealer who had sold / serviced the car and it had no record of oil consumption tests, breather mods etc.  Just regularly serviced and well taken care of.

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As above.

 

The failing spark plugs giving misfires at between 2,400 rpm & just over 3,500 rpm as on Supercharger & Turbo under load might not 

show as a Code, and does not show in the Workshop on the Machine, (not enough misfires in a cycle)

It can on a Drive when reading it.

 

?So has the car still not had the plugs out and checked and never had them replaced.?

 

Looks like a lucky escape.   Fingers Crossed.

 

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Unless the AA many is in an Area with many Twinchargers, he is unlikely to see many failing,

unless he was with Skoda Assist & the RAC before it went to the AA,.

They do fail though.

 

PPS

Be really thorough when at the Dealer

& get them to call your car up on the system and print out the cars history.

Not much help though where some dealers said it was a 'Good Will Gesture' to check the car and not go through Skoda.

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the exhaust light is probably misfires, I would get yourplugs changed before one implodes....

Why would the exhaust light be associated with a spark plug problem?

I have seen this light three times, ALWAYS round about the time I filled up with 99 RON and I connceted the two events - (I usually use 97 RON).

Car has done about 9,000 miles.

And why would the "Low oil - STOP NEW" light come on?

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Because a misfiring spark plug is causing the fueling to be wrong, and the emissions.

 

It is an Control System for the Exhaust 'Light'.     Some Misfires have the EPC show, them the Engine Light & sometimes both.

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As above.

 

The failing spark plugs giving misfires at between 2,400 rpm & just over 3,500 rpm as on Supercharger & Turbo under load might not 

show as a Code, and does not show in the Workshop on the Machine, (not enough misfires in a cycle)

It can on a Drive when reading it.

 

?So has the car still not had the plugs out and checked and never had them replaced.?

 

Looks like a lucky escape.   Fingers Crossed.

 

PS

Unless the AA many is in an Area with many Twinchargers, he is unlikely to see many failing,

unless he was with Skoda Assist & the RAC before it went to the AA,.

They do fail though.

 

PPS

Be really thorough when at the Dealer

& get them to call your car up on the system and print out the cars history.

Not much help though where some dealers said it was a 'Good Will Gesture' to check the car and not go through Skoda.

 

He did mention Skoda assist, do the AA operate that for them.  He also said he had worked at a VAG specialist.

 

I will 100% make sure they check the plugs, I'm certain they won't have been replaced but will make sure that is done.  As you describe the RPM numbers, that all makes perfect sense and is exactly where I saw the light.

 

Suppose that may explain the engine light, still not sure on the oil - stop thing.

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Because a misfiring spark plug is causing the fueling to be wrong, and the emissions.

 

It is an Control System for the Exhaust 'Light'.     Some Misfires have the EPC show, them the Engine Light & sometimes both.

 

I had thought to myself in the last couple of weeks that the fumes the car was spitting out seemed bigger than usual.  I checked the exhaust and it was still sooty, not oily and the fumes had no blue tint.  It was going to be mentioned when it went in for service.

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AA are doing Skoda Assist now i think, it was the RAC until this year, in some areas anyway.

 

If you had continued with the Misfiring the car could have gone into limp mode.

Disabled the Turbo,  and even shut down 2 cylinders.

 

I can put a car with 1 or 2 lights showing and a failing plug on the Reader & no Codes.

I can run the engine static and no lights or codes.

 

But if i took it and thrashed it, there will be 1 or 2 lights, maybe Limp Mode,

& hopefully no failing Spark Plug and holed piston.

 

Hopefully 1 plug has gone or going, & 4 new plugs and you are sorted.

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I know in my area (Blackpool) and in Todmorden (west yorks) it is RAC that do Skoda assist or was around a month ago. Also confirmed on sunday by the blome tryi g to sell me rac membership, until he saw my key and asked how long id had it. Then stated there was no point chatting further as as long as I didnt travel abroad, he could offer me nothing over the skoda assist package they offered.

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I believe the AA are the "first on scene" in the event of callout but Skoda send out a dedicated VAG chap in some cases.

 

When I broke down and had to be trailered home in July the VAG chap arrived by 8am and was brilliant, albeit not being able to solve the fault. Followed me to the dealer to ensure I was safe, spoke to the Service Department showing them his diagnostics results and didn't leave until he knew I had a 'loaner'.

 

He was very praiseworthy of Skodas and rarely sees a callout to them. Audis, on the other hand, were a different matter...

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So, dealer just phoned.

 

Diagnostics have returned absolutely nothing, car has been driven and nothing, so they basically said, come and pick it up there's nothing wrong.

 

I have asked them to check the spark plugs so they are going to do that and get back to me.

 

This might have served as a good warning, I think I am going to get an extended warranty sorted when I go pick the car up this afternoon.

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at least its running properly now, and you are not awaiting a new engine :)

 

That's true :)

 

I can't help but think the lack of error codes is in some way worse.  I'll see what they say about the plugs, I may as well have them done anyway as it's due it's 40k in a month or so, so replacing them now will just soften the blow of that.

 

What's your thoughts on the extended warranty?  Seems sensible to me.

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It is not rocket science.

 

The car is near the VW / Skoda Service schedule for Spark Plug change, and many do not last near 40,000 miles.

& Misfires often do not Log, and the lights only show when driven with a bit of Engine load.

ie, Boot it up a incline and drop 2 gears & have Super & Turbo on.

(not usual road test trial.)

 

So new plugs are needed anyway.

 

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What fuel do you use, 

is it at least Super Unleaded 97 Ron,  or better than the recommended 98 & Tesco Momentum 99 or Shell V-Power Nitro.

 

What was in the tank yesterday?

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AA have taken over the RAC for the Skoda Assist contract.

 

You can request that a VAG Technician attends if available...  I know this from personal experience...

 

On the plus side, at least your car is sorted :)

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It's exclusively (apart from 2 occasions) had V-Power Nitro.  The 2 occasions were when the other half was out on her own and she just put £10 worth of BP stuff in.

 

Yeah, I agree about the plugs, what I said to them was replace the plugs and they said, well if it's due it's service you might as well do that is it's a fixed price, doing the plugs now and then bringing it back for the service would cost more money.

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Just read your post.

 

'No sign of wear'.

I hope all 4 Spark Plugs were out,  so if all 4 plug tips look OK,  you are still looking for Tracking on the plug, 

& also checking the gap if the plugs are 38,000 miles old.

 

Removing 1 or 2 plugs is common with Dealerships, 1 particular plug fails, and thats the one you need out.

 

So new Plugs, 99 ron, or at least 97 ron petrol, and see how things are.

 

When was the Oil & Filter actually changed,

incase the Filter caused the Oil Pressure warning?    Does it get VW 502 5w 40,   or VW 504 00 5w 30 Long Life OIl ?

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Just read your post.

 

'No sign of wear'.

I hope all 4 Spark Plugs were out,  so if all 4 plug tips look OK,  you are still looking for Tracking on the plug, 

& also checking the gap if the plugs are 38,000 miles old.

 

Removing 1 or 2 plugs is common with Dealerships, 1 particular plug fails, and thats the one you need out.

 

So new Plugs, 99 ron, or at least 97 ron petrol, and see how things are.

 

When was the Oil & Filter actually changed,

incase the Filter caused the Oil Pressure warning?    Does it get VW 502 5w 40,   or VW 504 00 5w 30 Long Life OIl ?

 

All plugs out, I asked them to check and they confirmed.

 

They are doing the 40k service today so filters etc will all be changed, so I'll see how it goes over xmas.

 

Oil wise it gets the Castrol Edge / Magnatec 5w 30.  Again it's exclusively had this since I've owned it.

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All good.

Did it get its Brake Fluid changed at 3 years, if not then now is the time to have that done.

Worth the £45-49 if they will do it for that.

 

If they are not checking or changing the Air Filter you can do that yourself.

 

Has the car had a ECU Software Update, that should be getting done now during the service?

Did it need the DSG Service Campaign work,

paid for by Skoda, were you told it needed it, and did it get done?   (Also Heated seat Service Campaign if you have heated seats.)

 

That should be you sorted.  

Then worth buying a 'Skoda Approved Extended Warranty' as soon as money allows.

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