Oil Spray Jet (Squirters) Replacement 1.4 TSI / TFSI 132 - 136 kw Twincharger.

[Rooted]

For your safety, the passengers and other road users safety you want to know the History of the Vehicle from the VW Dealership network. Any Warranty and Service Campaign or recall work done or not done.

 

So you tell them that they have a Corporate Responsibility to let you know what parts they might have had replaced on your car.

Reason being, there are known Issues, Engines & DSG Gearboxes.

 

That tells them where you stand, and they can reply as they wish, and you can forward the reply to the Media if unsatisfactory to you. 

BBC Watchdog, Auto Express, Autocar, Car , VW Driver, What Car, Which etc etc 

& If they do the right thing, then praise them.

 

http://revotechnik.com/support/technical/14tsi-twincharger-engine-issues

[MilgeS]

If you  have an Android phone I can recommend this app, might be useful for future correspondence with VW

 

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.globaleffect.callrecord&hl=en

[Wakey]

Frankly I am sceptical about your suggested cure involving what Alex would have called "the old in-n-out", I can't see any logic behind it. As it happens, I think I can explain the behaviour of the dipstick that you and OzFabia are experiencing.

 

What geographically challenged readers here are ignoring is that Australia is in fact upside down. It is hardly surprising that the oil runs from the sump up the dipstick tube - gravity rules!

 

If you are referring to the Alex i think you are then its actually '..the old in out, in out..'

 

As you were 

[Xeon5]

I was looking at the oil container i gave to the mechanic to do the oil change back in March and i think I may have over reacted slightly. I gave them a 5l bottle of Shell 5w40 and was told that there was hardly any left but when i looked at the level on the side of the bottle there was approx 1.3 litres left! Which means they didnt over fill and that about 3.7/3.8 litres was actually put in during the change.

Since then it has taken about 830 miles to get to half but has moved more quickly during the last 100 so is there a reason for that? I have topped up now with 0.5L so will monitor over the next month.

[Rooted]

Good.

Do not stress.

Often they use a bit more after a New Filter & Oil is in.

Just do not overfill.

When it is parked on the flat, and cold, try to get the Oil showing just at the top of the Cross Hatch & monitor from then on,

using this as a Guide. Cold Checks.

(do a hot check a few times just to compare.)

[vxh26]

<SNIP>

I have topped up now with 0.5L so will monitor over the next month.

Good scheme.

 

What has been lacking in all the discussion to date is anything to do with the journeys involved during the mileage covered or the style of driving - e.g. long Motorway journeys at a steady(ish) high speed or short, slow, stop-go trips to the shops and back.

 

If along with a log of the oil use, you were to record each journey distance and duration and the way you drove (i.e. gently or aggressively, etc.) that might add to the knowledge base.

 

Just a thought - and you may perhaps be reluctant to comment on how you drive

[Rooted]

The very common experience of 1.4 TSI / TFSI 132-136 kw Twinchargers 2009-2012 then those 2012-2015 using oil rather excessively is when doing shorter journeys, cold start, under 15 miles or so. Engine Oil only getting up to above 50 *oC after 5-10 miles, all seasons, somtimes never getting much above 80*oC and operating temperature.

Also sometimes after Servicing and a New Filter & Oil.

(some might use more oil than usual after oil changes, then once topped up, not use very much if any until the next service.)

 

So Demonstrators at Dealerships. cars used for Commuting, going to the shops etc, 

used cars sitting on a forecourt being started and run and given Italian Tune ups etc every now and again.

 

On longer runs, and when the oil is getting up to operating temperatures and it is usually only very worn engines that are using too much oil.

Spirited and Sporting driving and even Track Days are not usually when Oil is being Consumed more than the VW Engine Designers would have been aiming for as Oil Consumption.

[Xeon5]

Im not an agressive driver and always stick to a consistent speed when driving around town. As im on a shift pattern with work I only use the car to commute once every two weeks as I get the bus the other (due to parking restrictions at work). My journey to work is roughly six miles and the oil temperature gets to about 80-90c when I check it before switching off the engine. Any other time it is just social driving. 

 

The only time I give it the beans is when I am driving on national speed limit roads/dual carriage ways.

[Rooted]

Really 80-90*oC  oil temp Indicated in only 6 miles.

 Is that lots of stopped in traffic and how long does that take to cover 6 miles?  That is quick getting up to temp even in a UK Summer.

 

Is it still that with the 5w 40 in, and is it a Silver Oil Filter fitted now?

[Xeon5]

Really 80-90*oC  oil temp Indicated in only 6 miles.

 Is that lots of stopped in traffic and how long does that take to cover 6 miles?  That is quick getting up to temp even in a UK Summer.

 

Is it still that with the 5w 40 in, and is it a Silver Oil Filter fitted now?

 

Depending on traffic really. There are alot of junctions and traffic lights on the way there. That is with Shell Helix Ultra 5w40 and a silver oil filter, not VW but the MANN equivalent, looks the same.

[Rooted]

Good.  Lets hope the oil use now is minimal. 

I now use Mahle Black Filters (OC 295) that are only £3.50.

 Does the job just fine, and easy to replace between oil changes.

[raymundo]

Mines currently in for the oil spray jets and breather mod, i saw the skoda bulletin document too when i was looking through my details and paperwork at the dealership, ive asked for a copy so ill post it up when i get the car back, it showed the part numbers required and what needed updating or changing depending on how old the car was and what engine type.

[Xeon5]

Mines currently in for the oil spray jets and breather mod, i saw the skoda bulletin document too when i was looking through my details and paperwork at the dealership, ive asked for a copy so ill post it up when i get the car back, it showed the part numbers required and what needed updating or changing depending on how old the car was and what engine type.

Would be interesting too see. That way people can get the parts themselves and get them fitted a lot cheaper than VW £200,000 per Hour labour :p

[Rooted]

A member has had his car in for 8.30 am to have New Oil Spray Jets fitted, and ready to collect by 2.00 pm.

So even given that they charged 4.5 Hours @ £70 +Vat, you are at £378 labour. 

[Xeon5]

A member has had his car in for 8.30 am to have New Oil Spray Jets fitted, and ready to collect by 2.00 pm.

So even given that they charged 4.5 Hours @ £70 +Vat, you are at £378 labour. 

 

True, just depends on how easy the job is and if you know the guy.

[Rooted]

Sorry, what do you mean, for an Independent.?

 

For a VW/ Audi /Skoda / Seat Tech the Job has a Time to take, the Parts Bought have a 2 Year Warranty,

and the Work is Guaranteed when done at a Authorised Dealer Workshop, so you have some security with that.

(as far as it can be, because New Squirters (Oil Spray Jets) fitted to reduce oil use is hit or miss with Older Engines 

and some done still used oil and required replacing with a New Engine.)

 

Plenty of Independents can do the work, and do it well, and maybe at the hourly rate,

so just find one like that.

In Scotland these guys are very good,. have all the gear and more than just an idea, they have the knowledge and ability.

http://autohausedinburgh.co.uk

[Xeon5]

Sorry, what do you mean, for an Independent.?

 

For a VW/ Audi /Skoda / Seat Tech the Job has a Time to take, the Parts Bought have a 2 Year Warranty,

and the Work is Guaranteed when done at a Authorised Dealer Workshop, so you have some security with that.

(as far as it can be, because New Squirters (Oil Spray Jets) fitted to reduce oil use is hit or miss with Older Engines 

and some done still used oil and required replacing with a New Engine.)

 

Plenty of Independents can do the work, and do it well, and maybe at the hourly rate,

so just find one like that.

In Scotland these guys are very good,. have all the gear and more than just an idea, they have the knowledge and ability.

http://autohausedinburgh.co.uk

 

Independent as the garage is owned by a local mechanic, nothing like Kwik Fit or Halfords. 

 

As good as that garage looks in the link it is a bit too far for me lol. I live in the South West UK.

[Rooted]

So have you checked out which is a good Independent near you specialising in VAG cars / engines and asked a price.

& also Priced a VW Dealership doing the work for you as a paying customer?

 

A vRS owner that was having no luck with the Dealer he bought the car from in getting it repaired was looking at having the Oil Spray Jets replaced at his own cost, so maybe he can let you know if he had it done or had a quote.

He is not on the forum often but hopefully will see the thread.

[Xeon5]

So have you checked out which is a good Independent near you specialising in VAG cars / engines and asked a price.

& also Priced a VW Dealership doing the work for you as a paying customer?

 

A vRS owner that was having no luck with the Dealer he bought the car from in getting it repaired was looking at having the Oil Spray Jets replaced at his own cost, so maybe he can let you know if he had it done or had a quote.

He is not on the forum often but hopefully will see the thread.

 

He isn't a VW specialist as he deals with all cars but I have used him in the last 8 years of owning a car and never had any issues. That would be good to know if that member gets the jets done and how much it cost.

[Rooted]

Is he prepared to do the work for you then, and for how much?

[Xeon5]

Is he prepared to do the work for you then, and for how much?

 

I haven't approached him yet, it depends on how many miles I get from my recent top up then I can see if it is worth taking it further.

[raymundo]

So got my car back. They had it for 2 days but did do a service and a brake fluid change for me aswell. I asked for a copy of the bulletin. And was told this time I'm not allowed it :( I did read it before I handed my car in. It was around 6 pages explain what to do and what parts were needed for each build of car. Hopefully it's all sorted now.

Will report back once I've got some miles on the clock

[Xeon5]

So got my car back. They had it for 2 days but did do a service and a brake fluid change for me aswell. I asked for a copy of the bulletin. And was told this time I'm not allowed it :( I did read it before I handed my car in. It was around 6 pages explain what to do and what parts were needed for each build of car. Hopefully it's all sorted now.

Will report back once I've got some miles on the clock

It's weird how they won't let you see the paper work for your own car. I guess because they paid for it they have the right to hold the paperwork. Let us know how you get on.

[Rooted]

The Dealership did not pay for it,

they did it on behalf of the Warranty Provider, the are Employed to do the Work, and the Warranty Provider is required if asked to tell you what is done to your property,. ie your vehicle. Parts Supplied and Cost Paid for Labour.

 

So if the Dealership Service Desk will not let you know, then you ask Skoda UK Customer Services to know what Replacement Parts are Fitted, what Fluids were used or charged for.

You might want to sell your car, and anyone buying should be able to be told what has been done to it under Warranty.

[vxh26]

He isn't a VW specialist as he deals with all cars but I have used him in the last 8 years of owning a car and never had any issues. <SNIP>

For what it is worth, last year when I was considering a new  vRS Mk. II I asked the owner of a local independent garage that I have happily used for years if they would be willing to service it. He said that they would not.

 

I then asked if he would be prepared to change the oil, filter and plugs if I supplied them. He reluctantly agreed to do that if I insisted since he still services another car for me.