My Vrs is like new again

[YetiVRS]

just had a 4th service on my vrs and i cant believe how much better it runs with the new spark plugs, i wont be waiting for the next time they are due before changing them again.

 

i cant understand why Skoda don't say they need changing every other service, its not a big expense and it makes the car so much better to have good plugs in.

 

will the dealer change them for me if i ask even if they aren't due to be changed?

[2ndskoda]

YES !

[sharkrider]

just had a 4th service on my vrs and i cant believe how much better it runs with the new spark plugs, i wont be waiting for the next time they are due before changing them again.

 

i cant understand why Skoda don't say they need changing every other service, its not a big expense and it makes the car so much better to have good plugs in.

 

will the dealer change them for me if i ask even if they aren't due to be changed?

 

 

YES !

yes.

 

 

I had 3 lots on warranty, put an official complaint (with evidence)  that their plugs are not fit for purpose, and they refused to accept that (lets face it they are lying about emissions, they don't give a ****) , so I just hand the plugs over at service and say "fit these" they are fine with that. (every 10k)

[YetiVRS]

yes.

 

 

I had 3 lots on warranty, put an official complaint (with evidence)  that their plugs are not fit for purpose, and they refused to accept that (lets face it they are lying about emissions, they don't give a ****) , so I just hand the plugs over at service and say "fit these" they are fine with that. (every 10k)

 

really! every service, that's only about 5 months for me but if it keeps it driving like it does now its worth it.

[vxh26]

The local Independent Garage ALWAYS changes the plugs in my car on every service and leaves the old ones (+oil filter, etc.) in a plastic bag in the passenger footwell, I have queried this in the past and they have convinced me that it can do no harm, doesn't cost much and may do some good. They told me that they would not be prepared to service a vRS when I was looking at buying one.

 

Frankly, a competent, experienced, trustworthy garage with the time to discuss issues in detail is more important to me than any car manufacturer or comfy chairs and free tea and coffee in the dealer's service reception area.

[Rooted]

Were those Spark Plugs at the likes of £2.50 Each & not Long Life?

 

VW Engineers and Designers came up with a 40,000 mile Service Schedule on the 1.4 TSI Engines.

Then there were different spark plugs for the Turbo or Twincharged Models.

 

It has been 1 of 4 spark plugs that were failing.

Often before an engine had covered 20,000 miles with CAVE engines. 

& as low as 10,000 miles with 1 Spark Plug in the CTHE Engines.

 

The Specs of the Spark Plugs have been changed by VW over the 5 years of producing the 1.4 TSI / TFSI 132-136kw.

They never changed the Service Schedule / Guidelines, and there are cars that might 

be in their 5th Year of Main Dealer Servicing that have never had the Spark Plugs checked or Changed.

 

They are only £10-£15 each RRP and worth having changed.

But as to Cheap & Easy.

Well not at Skoda Main Dealers that quote £109 to change the 4 Spark Plugs.

 

VW Main Dealers might well change them as part of a Service for £50.

 

Maybe worth getting the better spark plugs than the VW / Skoda / Seat / Audi OEM ones though.

Still under £15 each plug.

 

http://revotechnik.com/support/technical/14tsi-twincharger-engine-issues

[YetiVRS]

I will look into it closer when the next service is due, might just change them myself after the service.

 

I guess I can find the correct type and spacing on here somewhere!

[Rooted]

Yes easily.

There are a good few threads on here, and warnings.

 

Here is a recent one.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/371770-spark-plugs-for-mk2-fabia-vrs

 

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Coming up for 2 years since this one was posted.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/291585-warning-on-spark-plugs-14-tsi-cave-vrs-check-the-spark-plugs

[Rooted]

YetiVRS,    

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How many miles has your car done now?

Can you look at the invoice, and please post the Spark Plug Part No. for the plugs fitted,

and how much did they charge?

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How much did they charge for a 4th Service / Major-Inspection Service ?

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Even with the car not 3 year old, but doing higher mileages, did they change the Brake Fluid?

[YetiVRS]

The service was at about 37800, will check the other details when I'm back in the office.

[YetiVRS]

Spark plug number on the invoice is 03C905601B £12.88 each + VAT cost of service without parts £146.30 + VAT

 

no mention of brake fluid! should I be concerned?

 

only got the invoice today, we have an account with Vindis in Cambridge and they take a long time to send out the invoice.

 

on another note I will pass 40000 miles when I go out soon!

[Rooted]

Good that is what VW changed to

 03c905601B / NGK SIZFR6B8EG (0.7 mm gap)

 

They were previously,

03c905601A / NGK PZFR6R8EG (0.8 mm gap)

 

 

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Best check and see if it was done @ 3 Years, (Minor Service & Change Brake Fluid, at Extra Charge.)

Skoda used to have the Service Schedule show with a Brake Fluid change first at 2 years, then each 2 years.

 

Then it went to First at 3 Years, then 2 yearly.

It is Moisture (H20) in the fluid that you are trying to avoid.

 

You are as well to have the brake fluid change for a better performing one than the Factory OEM even if not driving sportingly,

or Track Use etc.

 

@ 4 Years old i would at least use a 'Test Kit', to check Moisture Content, but really you are as well to Change the Fluid before a winter, at 4 years old.

[m8t]

Putting news plugs in was a realy easy job last time I had a petrol car (23 years ago). Have engines changed that much that its not a job you can do with a plug spanner and feeler guage and save the £60 an hour charge.

[YetiVRS]

its still 6 weeks off 2 years old so wont be much over when it goes for its next service.

[Rooted]

On a twincharger it is easy enough even on the awkward 4th plug

Odd how many mess up getting ignition coils off. And how professional can burst or leave off a breather pipe. Use the wrong plugs and have plugs with the wrong gap.

[vxh26]

Putting news plug in was a really easy job last time I had a petrol car (23 years ago). Have engines changed that much that its not a job you can do with a plug spanner and feeler guage and save the £60 an hour charge.

 

Yes, engine (bays) have changed that much and No, you cannot change plugs with just a plug spanner and feeler gauge. The answer lies in the "23 years ago".  Modern cars have so much crammed into such a small space that accessing anything in the engine bay is indeed somewhat challenging.  As George says, many supposedly experienced mechanics have problems changing plugs :(

 

Even something as supposedly straightforward as changing a headlight bulb is likely to lead to bloodied knuckles and the uttering of many foul oaths!

[Outofthi5world]

Yes, engine (bays) have changed that much and No, you cannot change plugs with just a plug spanner and feeler gauge. The answer lies in the "23 years ago".  Modern cars have so much crammed into such a small space that accessing anything in the engine bay is indeed somewhat challenging.  As George says, many supposedly experienced mechanics have problems changing plugs :(

 

Even something as supposedly straightforward as changing a headlight bulb is likely to lead to bloodied knuckles and the uttering of many foul oaths!

You also need a special coil plug removal tool on some engines don't you?

[YetiVRS]

Just had a service (actually last Thursday) and I got new spark plugs fitted, cured the lumpy tickover and it is running perfectly again

I really do think these engines need new plugs every service