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danm

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Hi All,

 

My drivers side front window tried to open against the frost, and failed by snapping the cable and winding it around the drum, but I can't figure out how to remove the old one

 

I have the metal plate and the regulator out, but the guide rails are still in and attached to the window, I need to know how to detach the window clamps from the window...  Any help very gratefully received.

 

I couldn't find a repair kit for a mk2 anywhere, and ended up buying a used full mech+motor - £25 as they are £130 from the dealer just for the regulator asm.

 

If it helps anyone this guy on ebay offers a re-cabling service: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200672062410?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

 

 

 

Dan.

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I don't have any experience with the Superb yet but most VAG car I've worked you have to get the window down so far so you can access the window clamps through holes in the window regulator assembly. They have a bolt on each of the two brakets

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Hi Keith

 

I am bluffing my way through this but... I can get you so far:

 

pop off the panel containing your window switches gently using a wide flat bladed screwdriver - gives access to two screws

undo the 2 screws along bottom edge of the door card

pop out the speaker tweeter panel and undo screw there

prise off the door card - caution in this weather you will likely break the plastic fittings - about 10 of them

along the way disconnect the various electrical connectors as needed

 

---here's where it went astray for me

look for the two holes in the painted door panel through which you can see the black rails,

have some gaffa tape to hand to prevent the window from dropping suddenly and maybe breaking,

you now need to lower/push the window down whilst looking through the holes - I expected to see two bolts clamping the sliders to the window come into view, which you loosen - but it looks more like there are two circular plastic clips securing it to the window. this is where I got stuck!

 

So I left these for later and proceeded to :

 

unscrew the bolts holding the white lump to the grey metal panel and prise it off

push through the 3 white posts to free the regulator on the other side.

unclip the black control unit

unbolt the grey metal panel and withdraw it - giving access into the door cavity.

 

my regulator was jammed with the broken cable so I had to do the last 4 steps before I could push the window down enough to see the sliders on the rails.

 

Caution if you get this far through the job, there maybe nothing holding your window up - so consider if you can keep it somewhere secure while you figure the rest out.

I used a few bits of metal strip bent into shape hooked under the window and over the door lip to keep the window up, while I wait for advice and parts!

 

best of British - got to be better than paying the dealer I 'm guessing £200 to do it

 

 

will update as I go.

 

 

Dan.

 

 

 

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Took side pannel off no dramas thanks to your input. Same detail on my one, the cable was wrapped around the mechanism. Crimped off the right hand side of the cabel to prevent the window dropping down so at least the car is now secure. Think i will need a proffesional to re do the cable. Like you said it is very difficult so get to.

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Took side pannel off no dramas thanks to your input. Same detail on my one, the cable was wrapped around the mechanism. Crimped off the right hand side of the cabel to prevent the window dropping down so at least the car is now secure. Think i will need a proffesional to re do the cable. Like you said it is very difficult so get to.

Have a look at this thread

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/212345-window-repair-skoda-superb/

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Job done at last, but hardly straight forward

 

Here is what I learnt:

 

1)

Before you start, check the internet for a mobile specialist near you, I found one in my area - Newcastle quoting an average of £50 to come out and recon your regulator at home/work

if you can find someone like this don't even contemplate taking the door card off.  I had no idea this service existed, it also tells you a lot about the complexity of doing it yourself

 

2)

On some VW group cars the side airbag sensor works by sensing the change in pressure in the air volume inside the door in the case of an impact - so if you don't seal back up the

holes as you found them then it may compromise this sensor.  My local Skoda dealer said they don't sell the grey foam discs that you will have to destroy to get to the bolts you need.

but he said as long as you block the holes afterwards then its ok, I used gaffa tape for now, and will later replace this with 3m sticky discs from ebay for £2.

 

3)

At time of writing, there is no repair kit I can find for sale - so you need to know you can get the replacement bits - cables in my case or get them re-cabled see point 1!

The whole job requires a reasonable level of DIY skill and is slow and fiddly.  you are not likely to get it all done in one evening. (specially if its sodding dark, cold and wet as it was on my drive)

I ended up buying a full second hand mech for £25 on Ebay, not sure how long the cables will last mind. 

check my earlier post - I did find a guy who will re-cable the assembly for you.

 

4)

Be prepared for the misery of the VW group plastic roll pins / straddle dowels which hold the window onto the clips - google VW straddle dowel and you will find a lot of ways of doing it - I wound them out on a length of M5 studding braced against the door through a large washer.  then on re-assembly I very, very, carefully tapped them back home using a drift and a soft hammer.

 

5)

While you are fixing it if the window has dropped, a thin bit of flexible metal can be bent into a hook and dropped down the side of the window, hooked under the bottom edge and then bent back over the sill to keep the window secure while you sort all this out.  otherwise you may find no option but to go to the dealer and have a wallet-ectomy.  The regulator and cables assembly is £130, so I reckon its got to be >£200 for them to fix it.

 

6)

Buy spare dowels in case they get lost in the door, (dealer) foam discs, and replacement door card clips - (Ebay), before you start

 

So it can be done by a non-mechanic, but if you can afford it get someone else to take the hit.  sorry I didn't take photos but it was dark and I was sick of it.

 

good luck

 

d

 

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