Citigo Suspension

[AdrianEJS]

Hi, 

I've just bought myself a 2013 Skoda Citigo Ambition GreenTec, a red one and i love it. It has right over 40k KM on the counter and it is in quite good condition, but i have some questions regarding the suspension on the car. 

Daily i work as a Pizza delivery and there i drive a 2013 VW Up Groove edition with 60k km on the counter, quite the same car in many points, but the main difference, except equipment is the suspension. On the UP i drive at work the suspension is quite good. It handles speedbumps and holes in the road great and i feel comfortable when i drive the car on challenging roads(and yeah, here in Norway they love speedbumps, and you are good if you can't find holes in the road). 

And then it's my Citigo.... The suspension compared to the Up is quite hard and harsh, holes in the road and speedbumps is not a great experience at speeds from 20 kp/h and up, the whole car is shaking pretty bad, and my spine feels like it's shrinking after a drive at some bad roads, no kidding. Im sure most of you guys here have driven a bit to fast over a speedbump and felt the car hit your but and back pretty hard, yes, this is how my citigo is at every bump in the road and speedbump, as long as i dont break down to around 15 kp/h. Compared to the UP i drive at work, i can take the same speedbump and drive that car over it at around 40-50 kp/h and still feel comfortable. 

So my question here is, what is the main difference between these two cars, and what can i do to make my Citigo's suspension like the UP? 

I've read that the GreenTec model are lowered and the tires are low-profile tires, can this have something to do with it? 

Please help me out here, i love my Citigo, but i hate my suspension. 

Regards Adrian 

[listensqueak]

Hi and welcome. I also have a greentech with the lowered suspension and mine currently has just over 12k on the clock. Since new it has been a little crashy over bumps and ruts and pulling out of the driveway the front suspension sounds like it tops out. I guess the slight lowering does make a difference compared to the Up! I do not find it excessively harsh though. 

Years ago I had a Peugeot 106 which was light years ahead of anything else for speedbumps. I would not dream of driving the Citigo over the bumps as quickly as I did with that car..... but French cars did always seem more softly sprung then. 

Edited 21 March, 2016 by listensqueak

[Hyphons]

Hit the nail on the head, if yours is Greentech it will be 15mm lower and a little more firmer, remember the 15mm lowering springs used on the greentech are also used on the Sport/Monte Carlo model, you also I suspect have 16" wheels? May be wrong though, the Up! which you drive at work, is it a base model? Or the model up, the equivalent of a Citigo SE, if so that'll have 14" wheels and higher suspension over the greentech, there's not a whole lot that can be done, other than getting a smaller wheel size and changing the suspension to that of the SE model springs, however this will come with side effects I'm sure, poorer mpg etc

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[wizzi]

 

Years ago I had a Peugeot 106 which was light years ahead of anything else for speedbumps. I would not dream of driving the Citigo over the bumps as quickly as I did with that car..... but French cars did always seem more softly sprung then. 

 

I've had a 205 and a 309 and will definitly agree, especially the 309, £400 and it kept passing mots, so obviously i didnt care too much about it, very quick over speed bumps.

[fabandy]

Sorry to hear you are not happy, Adrian. As indicated above, there are standard springs and shorter springs which give a 15mm lower ride which is firmer. GreenTech and Sport/Monte Carlo models have the shorter springs (BlueMotion Tech or Sport pack on the Up). The lower ride is good for handling and offers a small aerodynamic advantage for fuel economy. I don't see why you can't change the springs but it won't be cheap. As mentioned above, the other factor is the wheels. The Citigo/Up/Mii come with 14'', 15'' or 16'' wheels. The bigger the wheels the harder the ride will be because they come with lower profile tyres to fit. You can tell by looking for the numbers on the side of the tyres, e.g. 165/70 R 14 is 14'' and 185/55 R 15 is 15''. Do you have a set of 14'' wheels for your winter tyres? The taller sidewalls on the 14'' tyres will give a softer ride. The Up might have bigger wheels but the standard springs? But both factors will affect ride comfort. 

[Citigouk]

This was one of the main reasons why when ticking the boxes of our Citigo Elegance ASG we passed on the 'sports suspension' option.

 

On the more comfortable settings the car is fantastic to dive over the rubbish UK roads we seem to have these days

 

What we decided to do was upgrade to the 15" alloys so it looked more sporty but the suspension height is unnoticeable compared to sports or greetech.

 

On winter tyres 14" the ride is even more comfy.

[lofi]

This was one of the main reasons why when ticking the boxes of our Citigo Elegance ASG we passed on the 'sports suspension' option.

 

On the more comfortable settings the car is fantastic to dive over the rubbish UK roads we seem to have these days

 

What we decided to do was upgrade to the 15" alloys so it looked more sporty but the suspension height is unnoticeable compared to sports or greetech.

 

On winter tyres 14" the ride is even more comfy.

Gotta agree with this. Citigo on standard suspension and 14" wheels has an amazingly relaxed ride over UK roads.  The rear suspension isn't very sophisticated but it's a very comfy relaxed package on the whole.

[ronime]

I have an Elegance GreenTech with "lowered suspension" and 175/65R14 tyres. I would describe the suspension as pleasantly compliant, it is not at all harsh.

It does necessarily not follow that the 15mm lower springs are firmer than the normal springs. They may be wound with relatively thinner wire.

Try a MINI Cooper R50 on Sports Plus suspension and run-flat tyres and then tell me that the Citigo suspension is harsh.

[Brooksy96]

Sorry to bump an old thread, but does anyone know the part numbers for the genuine lowered suspension?

trying to keep my up with genuine vag parts

cheers

[Vitas]

I don't know the part numbers but I do have a set that came off my sport.

[agh321]

Hi I’ve just bought a 2019 sel and the suspension is very bouncy 

my daughter has a 2013 groove up and the suspension is perfect 

 

what can I do to improve the ride 

[freemansteve]

14" wheels?

 

[Carlston]

gknautomotive.com online spring catalogue

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1S0 411 105 A

Spring Design	Coil spring with constant wire diameter
Fitting Position	Front Axle
Wire Diameter	11 mm
Length	310 mm
Outer diameter	135 mm
Weight	1.3 kg
Suspension	for vehicles with standard suspension
Rim Size	14 Inch

 

6R0 411 105 J

6R0 411 105 T

Spring Design	Coil spring with constant wire diameter
Fitting Position	Front Axle
Wire Diameter	11.25 mm
Length	307 mm
Outer diameter	139 mm
Weight	1.4 kg
Suspension	for vehicles with standard suspension
Rim Size	15 Inch

 

1S0 411 105 F

Spring Design	Coil spring with constant wire diameter
Fitting Position	Front Axle
Wire Diameter	11 mm
Length	290 mm
Outer diameter	138 mm
Weight	1.3 kg
Suspension	for vehicles with sports suspension

 

1S0 511 115 AJ

Spring Design	Coil spring with constant wire diameter
Fitting Position	Rear Axle
Colour Coding	Green (2x), Orange (2x), Yellow
Wire Diameter	9.25 mm
Length	308 mm
Outer diameter	102 mm
Weight	0.95 kg
Suspension	for vehicles with standard suspension
Rim Size	14 Inch

 

1S0 511 115 AK

1S0 511 115 AL

Spring Design	Coil spring with constant wire diameter
Fitting Position	Rear Axle
Colour Coding	Green (3x), Orange (2x), Yellow
Wire Diameter	9.5 mm
Length	308 mm
Outer diameter	104 mm
Weight	1 kg
Suspension	for vehicles with standard suspension
Rim Size	15 Inch

 

1S0 511 115 AN

Spring Design	Coil spring with constant wire diameter
Fitting Position	Rear Axle
Wire Diameter	9.25 mm
Length	293 mm
Outer diameter	101 mm
Weight	0.95 kg
Suspension	for vehicles with sports suspension

 

As you can see from above, the standard suspension on Citigo cars that came out of the factory with 14" wheels had softer springs than Citigo cars that came out of the factory on standard suspension with 15" wheels.

 

Greenline Citigo cars came out of the factory with sports suspension.

 

Edited 3 July, 2021 by Carlston

[Carlston]

front axle, steering | Skoda Citigo 2016, suspension shock absorbers front

1	1S0411105	coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark	white green Model data: PR-L01
(1)	1S0411105A	coil spring 2 paint marks 1 paint mark	white green Model data: PR-L02
(1)	6R0411105T	coil spring 2 paint marks 2 paint marks	green blue Model data: PR-L03
(1)	6R0411105J	coil spring 2 paint marks 3 paint marks	white blue Model data: PR-L04
(1)	1S0411105D	coil spring 3 paint marks 1 paint mark	white green Model data: PR-L05
(1)	1S0411105E	coil spring 4 colour strokes 1 paint mark	white green Model data: PR-L06
(1)	1S0411105F	coil spring 1 paint mark 2 paint marks	white green Model data: PR-L07
(1)	1S0411105G	coil spring 2 paint marks 2 paint marks	white green Model data: PR-L08
(1)	1S0411105H	coil spring 3 paint marks 2 paint marks	white green Model data: PR-L09

 

http://www.oemepc.com/skoda/part_single/catalog/sk/markt/CZ/modell/CIT/year/2016/drive_standart/727/hg_ug/411/subcategory/411000/part_id/2561497/lang/e

rear axle | Skoda Citigo 2016, suspension shock absorbers rear

1	1S0511115AH	coil spring 1 paint mark 2 paint marks 1 paint mark	yellow orange green Model data: PR-1JA+0YA
(1)	1S0511115AJ	coil spring 1 paint mark 2 paint marks 2 paint marks	yellow orange green Model data: PR-1JA+0YB
(1)	1S0511115AK	coil spring 1 paint mark 2 paint marks 3 paint marks	yellow orange green Model data: PR-1JA+0YC
(1)	1S0511115AL	coil spring 1 paint mark 3 paint marks 1 paint mark	yellow orange green Model data: PR-1JA+0YD
(1)	1S0511115AM	coil spring 1 paint mark 2 paint marks 1 paint mark	yellow orange blue Model data: PR-1JC+0YA
(1)	1S0511115AN	coil spring 1 paint mark 2 paint marks 2 paint marks	yellow orange blue Model data: PR-1JC+0YB
(1)	1S0511115AP	coil spring 1 paint mark 2 paint marks 3 paint marks	yellow orange blue Model data: PR-1JC+0YC
(1)	1S0511115AQ	coil spring 1 paint mark 3 paint marks 1 paint mark	yellow orange blue Model data: PR-1JC+0YD
(1)	1S0511115AF	coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark 3 paint marks	yellow orange red Model data: PR-UB6+0YB
(1)	1S0511115AG	coil spring 1 paint mark 2 paint marks 1 paint mark	yellow orange red Model data: PR-UB6+0YC

 

http://www.oemepc.com/skoda/part_single/catalog/sk/markt/CZ/modell/CIT/year/2016/drive_standart/727/hg_ug/511/subcategory/511000/part_id/2561497/lang/e

 

Example for front springs

(1)

1S0411105A

coil spring 2 paint marks 1 paint mark

white green Model data: PR-L02

 

Build code L02 means 1S0411105A front springs. 1S0511105A springs are marked with 2 white dots and 1 green dot.

 

Example for rear springs

(1)

1S0511115AJ

coil spring 1 paint mark 2 paint marks 2 paint marks

yellow orange green Model data: PR-1JA+0YB

 

Build codes 1JA+0YB means 1S0511115A rear springs. 1S0511115A springs are marked with 1 yellow dot, 2 orange dots, and 2 green dots.

 

Edited 3 July, 2021 by Carlston

[freemansteve]

Good research!

 

My 2019 SE-L greentech (or whatever they called them that month!) Has the lowered suspension and came with 16" wheels. I'd call it firm, but I'm used to that feel on quick German cars that I've mostly had in the past. Although these are no more than 'nippy' in town, (read: a bit slow), which suits me these days, the handling is quite pleasing. I can't say it's 'bouncy' though. A bouncy car sounds like it has shot dampers to me (or changed by a previous owner).