Advice needed please

[Bobdillin]

Good evening all I'm just looking for some advice on buying a superb I've never owned a skoda before and I'd just like to hear from you people who actually own a superb I'm looking to buy this model and I'm just looking for the pro's and con's on this model. I've new had a automatic gearbox. And is the fuel economy any good as they've stated on the facts. thank you Bob

Skoda SUPERB ESTATE 5-DR 2.0 TDI (140ps) SE DSG 5dr.

[DEL80Y]

Welcome Bob   What year is it ?

Go to Fuelly   website and it gives you real people accounts of specific model to see what they are really running at not some made up ridiculous figures that are printed as advertising..

My 140 DSG Combi 4x4 is running about 12p a mile which I am well happy at but I know others are running much better.

http://www.fuelly.com/car/skoda/superb


This is my first DSG gearbox and was not a fan of automatics as I liked to Drive the car...

Took a test drive in 1 and was completely swayed so much so that I will never go back to a manual..

Get to a dealer and test drive a couple of them for yourself  :sun: 
 

Edited 26 April, 2016 by DEL80Y

[chimaera]

If you get a DSG, make sure to check the service history on the car carefully. The DSG needs a fluid change every 40000 miles/60000 km and it ends badly if that's not done.

[g_tee]

I have owned a few 2.0 TDI PD Octavias and they have returned reasonable economy. I had two DSGs (in fact I'm on my fourth DSG car now) and like Delboy I would never buy another manual.

Yesterday I collected my new (to me) Superb and it is a really lovely car. So smooth to drive. I imagine a diesel will be similar (I bought a petrol) especially (and personally I would recommend the Common Rail or CR) a DSG one.

Test drive a few and see what you think

[Bobdillin]

evening gents thankyou for your feedback sorry I forgot to mention the year of the car is a 64 plate 18500miles  and ive only seen it online ive just today put a £100 no quibble money back deposit on the car so its not marked up for sale no longer.im bookrd in on Monday to view the car and testdrive. ive explained to the salesman that ive never driven one before let alone a dsg box but that's when he mentioned about ill be able to have my deposit back if it didn't tick all my boxes...my current car is a pug 406est 2L HDI (90) 53 plate which has served me so well for the last 11yrs as in reliability but it so slow/sluggish I needed a estate at the time due to having a dog and a baby sadly the dog is no longer with us. but I do love the fact that I can carry almost anything and don't have to rely on delivery men so this is why im going for this estate im 6ft 4 and the seat behind me was always redundant due to the lack of legroom which was left  . ive always wanted a Passat but after reading the reviews on a superb it seems like its the same car but more affordable . so im just wondering if people are happy with theres once again thanyou all bob.

[TheRobinK]

Well, its a stretched Passat chassis so you could really say its a Passat plus. I've had a Passat estate for a week - great car but the Superb estate feels/is a whole car size bigger. You put that drivers seat back as much as you want - you'll still get another 6 footer sitting right behind you and 2 weeks shopping and/or 3 large dogs in the back. 

[williamshatnerspants]

Hi Bob, I bought my first Skoda last year, and haven't regretted it once. As long as the servicing is up to date and check if the DSG has had any recalls/work done on it (the 140hp has the 7 spd dry clutch DSG, which is less reliable than the 6spd wet one in the 170hp).

 

A mechanical warranty is a good idea in my opinion, and if one can be negotiated in with the purchase price even better.

 

Good luck.

[philpix]

Bought my 190 4x4 Elegance estate new in 2010. Coming up to 90k miles of trouble-free motoring.

The best car I have owned. I have a S3 on order. Great cars and great value.

[Bobdillin]

good evening all this is my only second post here, im in a right dilemma on choosing just what car I should go for here is my choice ........................ superb cr se 140 dsg estate (64 plate 7/13) 18500miles............ or superb cr se luxurious 170 manual estate (64 plate 10/14) 16107miles.............. ive never driven a skoda let alone a auto box dsg and I'll be using this car as a family car and wont be pulling a caravan or anything so the question is what would be more economically to have out of these cars. the se 140 dsg is £500 more expensive than the other one? am I going to get more luxury extras!! with the 170 than the 140.. im booked in for a viewing/testdrive on Monday for the dsg.ive spoken to the salesman in the other dealership about about the se L 170 but unfortunately I wont be able to test drive that until the following Saturday due to plans I have plus working away from home  but I can put a deposit on it though to take the sale sign down until I test drive it...... your feedback will be much appreciated thank guys bob 

[Llinded]

Hi Bob, I bought my first Skoda last year, and haven't regretted it once. As long as the servicing is up to date and check if the DSG has had any recalls/work done on it (the 140hp has the 7 spd dry clutch DSG, which is less reliable than the 6spd wet one in the 170hp).

 

A mechanical warranty is a good idea in my opinion, and if one can be negotiated in with the purchase price even better.

 

Good luck.

 

Nope, the 140hp Diesel DSG has the 6-spd wet clutch

[lichfielddriver]

For those of us who have owned automatics.....

 

I had Fords and a Rover P5 (3ltr) with autoboxes, proper autos "slushboxes", so called because the engine had no mechanical connection with the gearbox, the power was transmitted by a fluid flywheel (torque converter) which spun 1 set of blades, spun a fluid, thus turning a 2nd set of blades to turn the gearbox input shaft.....

 

the DSG type auto is (im told) TWO manual gearboxes with a normal (or DMF) flywheel and the gears are shifted by actators, maybe hydraulic, maybe electric....i dont know

 

this means there is no loss of power between engine+box....so (in theory) no loss of mpg but i hear reports of the changes being jerky

[g_tee]

It's a robotic manual gearbox. The robot just changes the gears for you.

[psycholist]

If the gear change is jerky there's something wrong with the gearbox. Any DSG I've driven has shifted gear seamlessly to the point where looking at the tachometer is the only way to be sure a gear change has happened. In sport mode the shifting is more noticeable as engine revs are higher and shifting prioritises unbroken power delivery over smoothness. When they first came out some of them had expensive issues, but based on nobody complaining about DSGs on here anymore, they seem to have been resolved on newer models.

 

The 7 speed can't handle the torque from the 140 or 170 diesel engines, so the 6 speed (Rated to 350 Nm according to the link below, though I assume newer versions are higher to deal with newer engines) is all you get in diesel Skodas AFAIK. As far as I can gather the reasons fuel economy is worse is because 6th gear on the DSG is a lower ratio than on the manual box and the DSG is heavier.

 

There is no torque convertor, and no clutch slip once you're above about 10 km/h. The difference between this and most automatically actuated manual boxes is that it can select one odd numbered gear and one even numbered gear at the same time, so shifting gear is a matter of changing clutches rather than opening the clutch, changing gear and closing the clutch again like a normal manual box, so provided the gearbox has preselected the right gear, shifts are lightening fast. Even when it's caught out they're still faster than can be done with a manual box (Unless you're not planning to have it last very long). DSGs are more expensive to run thanks to the 40k mile oil service and on cars with a lot of stop/start driving and high mileage you may need to budget replacing the clutches and dual mass flywheel (There is only one DMF even though there are 2 clutches).

 

There's a nice manual on the DSG box here: http://www.volkspage.net/technik/ssp/ssp/SSP_308.pdf

Edited 29 April, 2016 by psycholist

[lichfielddriver]

It's a robotic manual gearbox. The robot just changes the gears for you.

 

 

where to sir?

 

[g_tee]

As psycholist says - they are smooth as silk.

[lichfielddriver]

As psycholist says - they are smooth as silk.

 

 

while he drives a proper auto

 

a mate with a 3.2 elegance hates the gear shifts

[lichfielddriver]

are all petrols a dry 7 plate?

[g_tee]

I've had both wet and dry versions and seen no real difference in either really.

I'd have thought the 3.6 V6 would have the 6 speed wet clutches

Edited 29 April, 2016 by g_tee

[DEL80Y]

It's a robotic manual gearbox. The robot just changes the gears for you.

Its not a robot its two 3 armed Monkeys each holding a different gear in each of their 3 arms.

One holding gears 1,3,5 other holding 2,4,6 and they talk to each other so they know what gear to throw in next..

They are very intelligent monkeys as well..

I got the above information from the internet so its TRUE

Edited 29 April, 2016 by DEL80Y

[g_tee]

I prefer your explanation

[williamshatnerspants]

Its not a robot its two 3 armed Monkeys each holding a different gear in each of their 3 arms.

One holding gears 1,3,5 other holding 2,4,6 and they talk to each other so they know what gear to throw in next..

They are very intelligent monkeys as well..

I got the above information from the internet so its TRUE

 

and if one of the monkey's brain fails you'll be up for the cost of a complete new zoo. ;oP

[DeeDar]

If you get a DSG, make sure to check the service history on the car carefully. The DSG needs a fluid change every 40000 miles/60000 km and it ends badly if that's not done.

Word of warning to everybody - a full service history does not guarantee (at least in my case) that all will be well. Got a second hand Superb from a dealer in June with a full service history (All service stamps were by Skoda dealerships). The service book indicated that a 40000m/60000km service had been carried out at 39509 miles. The car had done 54000 miles when I got it, after a couple of thousand miles the DSG started to get very jerky (especially in gears 1, 2, 3), when setting off the car would always jerk into gear -  although I'd never been happy with the way the DSG operated from the moment I got the car but put this down to me not being used to a DSG box, . Long story short had the oil and filter changed at approx 56000 miles, result a far smoother gearbox that has remained that way after 10000+ miles. The only conclusion I have arrived at is the oil wasn't changed at 40000 miles despite what the service record indicated - DeeDar

[supersnail]

Hi ive got a 2010 2.0 170 had it over a year now and its simply the best car ive ever had,and ive had a few. Its happiest on main roads and motorways. I get between 45 and 50 miles to the gallon on long journeys and 40 to 45 locally, where I live here in France they dont do straight so thats still excellent. Even pulling 1.5 tonne caravan it still turns in 30mpg. If the 140 is anywhere near these figures you cant go wrong!