Dog Guard for a Superb Mark II Estate with a sun roof

[Oxfordian1]

New on here, and new to Superbs. Got one recently so that the dog can go in the bcd and stop trashing my car, but it came with a sun roof, and it seems that the leading brands don't fit estates with sun-roofs. Mine came with a lovely panoramic one, which I love, but will it make it much harder to keep the dog off the back sets!

 

Help please. Also any advice on good dog and car friendly protective floor coverings. 

 

And should we divide the space in the back for her as well? She's the size of a springer. 

 

Thanks in advance. 

 

 

[TheRobinK]

I have the Skoda dog guard fitted and a Skoda thick rubber mat. They have worked great with my three dogs. Looking at my guard, I cant see why the Skoda one wouldn't work on a sunroof/moonroof car (mine isn't) - and Skoda has probably taken their sunroof option into account in its design..? There is a pic of mine at the bottom of this post. I got it as part of the car purchase deal but I think the dealer would normally have charged around €179 for purchase and fitting.

 

As for floor protection: the Skoda rubber mat comes in different shapes - it depends on if your car has the aluminium rail system or not. I have the rail system so I went for the Skoda OEM mat. If i didnt have the rails then there would have been lots of options on eBay. I hear the UK dealers do them for about £45...?  They are also available on line - I got mine here: http://www.superskoda.com/Skoda/SUPERB-II/Superb-II-Combi-rubber-cargo-mat-cars-WITH-alu-rails-or-false-boot-floor

 

jafo recently posted this:  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331758617162

 

E3RJE has a dog crate which he uses for his lurcher and retriever - he said you can get them here: http://www.transk9.com/select/skoda/skoda-superb/skoda-superb-estate-2009/   (Note that they half a half cage/single dog option)

 

There is a post with pictures of his dog crate in this thread: http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/271784-pictures-please/page-2?hl=%2Bdog+%2Bcrate#entry4634393

 

Pic of my Skoda steel dog guard (dealer fitted) is below. You can see the fixing points on the far right and far left of the roof):

 

Edited 9 June, 2016 by TheRobinK

[TheRobinK]

Just to add - what was fitted to my car was the steel  Skoda "Dog Guard / Boot Protection Grill" - Skoda part number 3T9071195 and it included a fitting kit, Skoda Part number 5L6071754.

 

I heard it can be quite tricky to fit yourself but I can't verify that. Maybe someone else here has done it themselves and can chime in?

 

I had heard that dealers in the UK were doing a "Pet Protection Pack" that gave you the Steel Dog Guard plus fitting plus an rubber boot mat for around £190. I have seen the guard on its own for around £120 to £130

 

The good: Solid, steel, fits well

 

The Bad: You have to take it out to make full use of the load space (i.e. That big "on sale TV or dirty big BBQ). That said, it has 4 round knobs (2 on the top right and left and 2 at the sides of the boot space behind the seats)  that you can unscrew by hand and then take it out - there are no tools required. Just takes a minute or two.

Edited 9 June, 2016 by TheRobinK

[E3RJE]

As TheRobink has kindly posted I have the Trans K9 double dog crate in mine. I can fully recommend these, as he has said take a look at the website. They do a single dog option that will be ideal for you and still allow you space to use the boot, no fitting just slides in no noise wile driving rattle free. A bit expensive but dogs feel safe and secure easier as when you open the boot they can't jump out of the car until you let them out.

[Oxfordian1]

Thanks for the help E3RJE andTheRobinK. Much appreciated. The K9 cage looks good, but so does the Skoda divider. Has got the boot rails so will get the Skoda OEM boot mat I think. 

 

Ian

[williamshatnerspants]

The solid ones as listed above will be the strongest and safest in a crash, but the Skoda OEM retractable mesh net (comes standard in NZ) is good enough to keep our pooch contained and might be cheapest. 

 

Edited 10 June, 2016 by williamshatnerspants

[TheRobinK]

That would be an excellent option - if we could get it.

 

The problem is in Ireland (I *think* this is also true in the UK) Skoda will not allow you to specify, order new, or buy to retrofit, that roller net option on the Superb II. Its not in the catalog and when I asked the dealer I got the car from to check, they confirmed it existed yet wasn't allowed to be supplied here.

 

I'm not sure why - it looks to be identical to the setup I had in my last couple of BMW estates and it was very convenient. 

[Oxfordian1]

Shame about the mesh net, which looks a simple (and cheap) option. Perhaps safety regulations. I imagine if there was a high speed crash it wouldn't stop the dog from catapulting forwards through the car. Not good for dog or passengers!

[Zenbasses]

On this topic a question

I have just fitted a Hatchbag boot liner (eBay bargain)

https://goo.gl/photos/FjtUZNFWxt7GAP8n8

And my cat seemed to love it too ...

I have a German Shepard and a Weimaraner and I have never used a dog guard. I just push the headrests all the way up as the gap isn't big enough for them to get through as they are big dogs

I assume in a collision the dog guard would stop a dog catapulting over the seats.nbu I see it as if I had a collision my dogs would hit a solid metal object when without, in reality they would hit the back of the seat which has some give in and the headrests 'poles' are unlikely to fail. I guess the impact would be distributed more????

Not sure if my POV is wrong and I am always happy to change my mind ... but a £150 solid(ish) piece of metal would seem with my 2 more of a danger .

Would really appreciate some guidance

Edited 10 June, 2016 by Zenbasses

[TheRobinK]

On this topic a question

I have just fitted a Hatchbag boot liner (eBay bargain)

https://goo.gl/photos/FjtUZNFWxt7GAP8n8

And my cat seemed to love it too ...

I have a German Shepard and a Weimaraner and I have never used a dog guard. I just push the headrests all the way up as the gap isn't big enough for them to get through as they are big dogs

I assume in a collision the dog guard would stop a dog catapulting over the seats.nbu I see it as if I had a collision my dogs would hit a solid metal object when without, in reality they would hit the back of the seat which has some give in and the headrests 'poles' are unlikely to fail. I guess the impact would be distributed more????

Not sure if my POV is wrong and I am always happy to change my mind ... but a £150 solid(ish) piece of metal would seem with my 2 more of a danger .

Would really appreciate some guidance

 

Here is the thing - you could be right about the dog getting more hurt by the steel (though i suspect the mesh would act more as a mat whereas the headrests would be an obstacle more likely to injure). However, from the safety point of view, that is not the point. 

 

Like you said, the steel mesh or similar meshes are to stop cargo/dogs flying into the passenger cabin and injuring us two legged dawgs. They also stop them chewing a drooling over seats and headrests (I love my dogs but i love my ivory leather too....). 

 

EJ3RE told us about the Trans K9 double or single dog crate options (see above) and I suspect that if you place keeping the dogs contained and safe - one of those is probably the best solution. They even come with rear escape hatches. Skoda wasn't going to throw one of those into my car deal though!

 

I live in the countryside so I don't have to drive my dogs far or on motorways for walking. If i was doing/or start to do a lot of travel with them I'd go for the Trans K9 crate (even if it took a bit of saving - they aren't cheap). 

 

That boot liner looks great - I had an Irish Water Spaniel X once and she immersed herself in any muck, water or indeed sh1te she could find. If I had her now, I'd steal that liner from you in a heartbeat. I just have a cheapo one for very occasional use at the moment. 

 

Very glad to see I'm not the only person who has cats that love to get in the back of car. A Superb Estate being used as a Taxi turned up here to take some family to Shannon airport. Driver opens boot and goes to door. Animals see open Superb. Road Trip! Driver goes back to car and finds three dogs and three cats in back.   

Edited 11 June, 2016 by TheRobinK

[E3RJE]

I would hate to have a accident in my car but even more so if my dogs were with us, they usually are at weekends and holidays throughout the. British Isles lots of dog friendly cottages available now. The Trans 9 crate is brilliant the dogs love it they feel safe and secure I only have to open the tailgate and the doors to the crate and they are in waiting for us to load the car up. It is much safer getting them out tailgate up then each dog individually has his lead put on and comes out nice and carm, in the countryside if safe tailgate up no leads then out they come.

[Oxfordian1]

Think this thread is steering me towards the idea of the crate now. Thanks for all views. 

 

( PS TheRobinK, I love your image of dogs and cats eagerly hopping into the back of the taxi!)

[26DIPP]

I have been looking for some kind of load net. On the previous car , a V70, it came as standard. Does anyone know whether a Passat B7 estate boot net would fit into a Superb? This is the Passat P/N: 3C9861691, and this is the Superb II P/N: 3T9861691. Very similar...

[TheRobinK]

I have been looking for some kind of load net. On the previous car , a V70, it came as standard. Does anyone know whether a Passat B7 estate boot net would fit into a Superb? This is the Passat P/N: 3C9861691, and this is the Superb II P/N: 3T9861691. Very similar...

 

I had the same type of partition on a 3 series and a 5 Series estate I had and, like you,  would have liked it on my Superb. I don't really get how any estate is allowed to come without something.

 

That (3T9861691) is the net partition I wanted but was told it was not an option for Ireland and could not be fitted here (Williamshatnerspants posted a pic of it above - standard in NZ). I thought about getting it from Europe but then i would still have the problem of having none of the eye/slots it connects to on the roof installed. 

 

I also heard that the same issue applies to the UK - where are you based?

 

In any case - the part numbers you gave above do suggest it is the same part and the same colour.

 

On VAG cars, I understand that the "3T9" in the first three characters of the part number is just the code for a model it can be fitted to, used here to identify a "Superb Combi / Estate" and the "3C9" is for "Passat Variant / Estate" - though I think a 3C9 is a B6 Estate rather than a B7..?

Edited 12 June, 2016 by TheRobinK

[26DIPP]

B6 and B7 are fairly similar I think. B8 was a complete new design. I was wondering whether the Passat net might fit into a Superb II.

[Zenbasses]

After reading all this info I am going to play around this weekend. Although they do not use them now I crate trained both my dogs and have s medium and large cages..I might see if one of these fits in the car and then I can tether it down ...

The plastic mess in cars they call a dog guard is basically less than useless.i doubt the net type would stop anything smaller than a Jack Russell....

I care for my 2 far too much....they are good travellers and me and my partner often travel a few hours to good scenery to Dog walk...2 hours and we in the heart of the Yorkshire dales.......what more could you ask for in a day out ...

I want them to be safe but until I can afford a custom cage in back ,the above suggestion maybe the way forward....just hope a medium cage allows them to do their favourite thing....staring out the back window making be rear a screen as fogged up as much as they can......

They are calm so I do tend to have heated rear a screen on ..even In summer..

[Zenbasses]

Just for record me and my partner are flying up to Fife for our jollys with the dogs at the end of July..on a small holding Farm....can't wait so hopefully I will have a solution by then...I'll keep you posted....!!!

[williamshatnerspants]

After reading all this info I am going to play around this weekend. Although they do not use them now I crate trained both my dogs and have s medium and large cages..I might see if one of these fits in the car and then I can tether it down ...

The plastic mess in cars they call a dog guard is basically less than useless.i doubt the net type would stop anything smaller than a Jack Russell....

I care for my 2 far too much....they are good travellers and me and my partner often travel a few hours to good scenery to Dog walk...2 hours and we in the heart of the Yorkshire dales.......what more could you ask for in a day out ...

I want them to be safe but until I can afford a custom cage in back ,the above suggestion maybe the way forward....just hope a medium cage allows them to do their favourite thing....staring out the back window making be rear a screen as fogged up as much as they can......

They are calm so I do tend to have heated rear a screen on ..even In summer..

 

I know that Volvo crash test their retractable nets (and have done so for at least 20 years), so I would like to think other manufacturers do the same. Given what else we carry in our boots, a medium sized dog is about as dangerous as an overnight bag IMO (yes it could kill you). Sure a solid cage is better for keeping things isolated in a big crash but the retractable nets are not useless.

 

BTW, I checked and Skoda UK do not offer the nets as an accessory due to a "lack of demand in the UK market".

[vrswell]

 

 

BTW, I checked and Skoda UK do not offer the nets as an accessory due to a "lack of demand in the UK market".

That's a shame; My Superb has a panoramic roof too but our dog travels in the car lots. I don't like the crate idea as it takes up a lot of space but I guess it good for keeping the doggie isolated and safe.

[Zenbasses]

I know that Volvo crash test their retractable nets (and have done so for at least 20 years), so I would like to think other manufacturers do the same. Given what else we carry in our boots, a medium sized dog is about as dangerous as an overnight bag IMO (yes it could kill you). Sure a solid cage is better for keeping things isolated in a big crash but the retractable nets are not useless.

BTW, I checked and Skoda UK do not offer the nets as an accessory due to a "lack of demand in the UK market".

I wasn't aware they were crash tested , very useful information... I assumed that a plastic net hooked up to a plastic hook/catch would probably crack if 80kg of dogs hit it..

[Zenbasses]

I know that Volvo crash test their retractable nets (and have done so for at least 20 years), so I would like to think other manufacturers do the same. Given what else we carry in our boots, a medium sized dog is about as dangerous as an overnight bag IMO (yes it could kill you). Sure a solid cage is better for keeping things isolated in a big crash but the retractable nets are not useless.

BTW, I checked and Skoda UK do not offer the nets as an accessory due to a "lack of demand in the UK market".

I wasn't aware they were crash tested , very useful information... I assumed that a plastic net hooked up to a plastic hook/catch would probably crack if 80kg of dogs hit it..

[Zenbasses]

I wasn't aware they were crash tested , very useful information... I assumed that a plastic net hooked up to a plastic hook/catch would probably crack if 80kg of dogs hit it..

[Zenbasses]

Okay sorry for the multiple post it seems the mobile site is refusing the post everything I wrote..so it might not make sense..

[williamshatnerspants]

I wasn't aware they were crash tested , very useful information... I assumed that a plastic net hooked up to a plastic hook/catch would probably crack if 80kg of dogs hit it..

 

The net is made from strands of what looks like seatbelt material or nylon. The connection to the roof is metal (plastic coated). The connection points are the same/similar as those used for solid metal cage mounting. 

 

I'm like a dog with a bone here!

 

IMO, if anyone wants an OEM retractable net for their car it wouldn't be too difficult to buy the parts from Europe (new or used) and install it.

[Matt888]

Hi,

I can wholeheartedly recommend Guardsman dog guards: https://www.dogcages.uk.com/catalog/skoda/skoda-superb-sunroof/

Very good quality, cheaper than the Skoda version and no cutting of the headlining required. First time assembly needs an Allen key (supplied); after that, removal and installation need no tools. It sits well clear of the rear headrests, doesn't interfere with the operation of the rear seats (so you don't have to remove it when you fold the rear seats down) or the boot blind and, of course, doesn't affect the panoramic sunroof.

Cheers,

Matt.