Emissions Cheat Latest

[Jayelem]

My dealer just rang to advise the emissions cheat update for my Superb II is ready to go, but I've said I'll get back to them. 

 

I've read through a number of threads on this topic, but there are three questions I'm keen to get an answer to: 

 

1)  Has anybody quantified the effect?  I don't see how you can change emissions with affecting performance or economy, and Skoda's letter says their "aim" is not to affect performance.  The dealer says "as far as I know, it's not affected"  This isn't good enough.

 

2)  Has any legal action been started or recommended?

 

3)  Is there any implication to not having it done?

Edited 27 June, 2016 by Jayelem

[kevberlin]

My dealer just rang to advise the emissions cheat update for my Superb II is ready to go, but I've said I'll get back to them.  I've read through a number of threads on this topic, but there are three questions I'm keen to get an answer to: 

 

a)  Has anybody quantified the effect?  I don't see how you can change emission with affecting performance or economy, and Skoda's letter says their "aim" is not to affect performance.  The dealer says "as far as I know, it's not affected"  This isn't good enough.

 

  Has any legal action been started or recommended?

 

c)  Is there any implication to not having it done?

Take a look at the post by silver 1101........re refusing an emission test

[lichfielddriver]

id ask to see reports from satisfied customers

[silver1011]

Just been through this with my dealer today. I asked them NOT to update the software, see here...

 

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/403828-just-refused-the-vag-emissions-recall/

[StuartTunstall]

As stated on another post, I know 2 people that have had Audi A4 2.0TDi 177 done about 3 weeks ago... has not made a bit of difference to the car... exactly the same as before the fix... 

 

Stuart

[James@RRG_Skoda_Rochdale]

We've done a handful and had no comments passed or complaints made.

The info with the update stipulates that the vehicles economy/fuel consumption and performance will be completely unaffected.

[silver1011]

Reduced emissions with no changes to engine performance or fuel economy. I smell a rat.

 

It's OK though, an organisation as big as VAG can be trusted... oh, wait a second...

[StuartTunstall]

We've done a handful and had no comments passed or complaints made.

The info with the update stipulates that the vehicles economy/fuel consumption and performance will be completely unaffected.

 

Good to know if it had I am sure you would know about it.... and so would the world!

 

As I say 2 people I know have had Audi A4's done, 2.0YDi non adblue and it is no different now to before... I would not have a problem having my Superb done if Skoda results are the same... Have a 1.6TDi Rapid as well now so that need doing as well lol Sucker for punishment...

 

I have said many time, VW p***** a lot of people off and had more bad press than they could wish for, the idea is to regain your trust, so I cannot see them causing customers further issues to p*** them off even more and get even worse press...

 

All the bad stuff has come from the press... and they always tell the truth to sell papers Lol  

[James@RRG_Skoda_Rochdale]

I believe the reason it's taken so long to start releasing the "fix" is because they wanted to make sure each update applied had absolutely no adverse effects on the vehicle.

It's nice to see they're now adopting the "belt and braces" approach.

It might be worth a note that with each emissions related software update each customer receives:

-A free vehicle health check

-A free wash and vac

-A free courtesy car during repair

-A free Skoda goodie bag which includes a Skoda pen, notebook, thermo mug, golf umbrella and some other small items

So it's not all bad!

[Breezy_Pete]

Someone who has an affected vehicle and plans to get the software update should log EGR activity with VCDS on their normal commute, before and after the update is done. Preferably a few journeys to average out traffic variation. 

[williamshatnerspants]

I believe the reason it's taken so long to start releasing the "fix" is because they wanted to make sure each update applied had absolutely no adverse effects on the vehicle.

It's nice to see they're now adopting the "belt and braces" approach.

It might be worth a note that with each emissions related software update each customer receives:

-A free vehicle health check

-A free wash and vac

-A free courtesy car during repair

-A free Skoda goodie bag which includes a Skoda pen, notebook, thermo mug, golf umbrella and some other small items

So it's not all bad!

 

I would like a free dyno before and after, including fuel consumption for both, and a cheque similar to what American owners are getting.

 

;o)

[Skoda4x4man]

I read that the USA owners will be getting up to £7500 per vehicle.

 

Will that be coming to UK owners ?

 

A goodie bag or £7500 - - - - - -  Let me think

 

 

 

 

 

Chris

[silver1011]

I've had my fingers burnt with a Skoda recall before.

 

I'll happily sit back and wait this time, last time I was one of the first to rush in much to my regret.

 

You can have it done at anytime from now until the car's eventual death.

[WaveyDavey]

I've had my fingers burnt with a Skoda recall before.

I'll happily sit back and wait this time, last time I was one of the first to rush in much to my regret.

You can have it done at anytime from now until the car's eventual death.

My thoughts exactly..... I ain't gonna rush to have it done, if at all.

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[terrytowelling]

I'll let the next owner do mine

[Charade]

I believe the reason it's taken so long to start releasing the "fix" is because they wanted to make sure each update applied had absolutely no adverse effects on the vehicle.

It's nice to see they're now adopting the "belt and braces" approach.

It might be worth a note that with each emissions related software update each customer receives:

-A free vehicle health check

-A free wash and vac

-A free courtesy car during repair

-A free Skoda goodie bag which includes a Skoda pen, notebook, thermo mug, golf umbrella and some other small items

So it's not all bad!

 

Greetings,

 

 If James is there (or anyone else knows) can you confirm what's written above, not the wash or courtesy car but health check and goodie bag, Is it a Skoda thing or individual garage thing?

 

I've just had my Superb done at the local Skoda place and got the wash - full comments here http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/400823-any-ideas-when-the-emission-cheat-refits-might-start/page-2

 

Just curious really, but I am sharpening my communicating with people skills!

 

AndyW

[James@RRG_Skoda_Rochdale]

Skoda sent us loads of goodies for customers who were subject to this particular recall.

[Charade]

Thanks for the reply, I think I'll look into this further.

 

AndyW

[Micky H]

I had the update on my VW Passat 140 tdi 62 plate 2 weeks ago no difference to performance or economy as far as far as I can tell.

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[wharferat]

I called my local dealer this morning about this as my car is going in for a service next week. They told me that they have no notification of an update for my car. They also said that the first I would know about it would be a notification from Skoda UK, then after that Skoda would notify the dealer.

[eagerv]

I believe the reason it's taken so long to start releasing the "fix" is because they wanted to make sure each update applied had absolutely no adverse effects on the vehicle.

It's nice to see they're now adopting the "belt and braces" approach.

It might be worth a note that with each emissions related software update each customer receives:

-A free vehicle health check

-A free wash and vac

-A free courtesy car during repair

-A free Skoda goodie bag which includes a Skoda pen, notebook, thermo mug, golf umbrella and some other small items

So it's not all bad!

I will never let a Skoda dealer wash my car again.

 

It was done unknown to me on my first service and upon collecting car I noticed swirl marks all over my pristine car.

It had to go back for a few days for paint correction. Apparently they used an automatic rotary brush washer, something I would never have agreed to.

[TheRobinK]

I will never let a Skoda dealer wash my car again.

 

It was done unknown to me on my first service and upon collecting car I noticed swirl marks all over my pristine car.

It had to go back for a few days for paint correction. Apparently they used an automatic rotary brush washer, something I would never have agreed to.

 

I don't think the guys at my nearest dealer have ever washed themselves - never mind a car!  They left a very interesting collection of grime after fixing one of my my rear heated seats under warranty. There is certainly no fear of the car ever getting washed. Big plus for leather - you can wipe it!  :p

 

My cousin wrecked his Saabs paint with one of those rotary attachments. His nephew had used it on the sandstone garage wall, for fun, while he was off having a cold beer. He returned and started on the car with the rotary brush. Scrubbed the hell out it with his conditioning shampoo...

 

Then the car dried. And he saw the colour change from Bergundy to a kind of silver cat fur effect.   If you listen, on a quiet night,  you can still hear the screams echoing across the rolling Irish hills....  £3,100 to sort.

Edited 5 July, 2016 by TheRobinK

[williamshatnerspants]

I read that the USA owners will be getting up to £7500 per vehicle.

 

Will that be coming to UK owners ?

 

A goodie bag or £7500 - - - - - -  Let me think

 

 

 

 

 

Chris

 

The US payment to owners is to settle the lawsuit brought against VW. A law firm in the UK has set up a page you can look at if you are interested in being part of their claim..... http://www.slatergordon.co.uk/commercial-and-group-litigation/volkswagen-scandal-legal-investigation/claiming-compensation-against-vw-for-the-emissions-scandal/

Edited 7 July, 2016 by williamshatnerspants

[terrytowelling]

I've registered and have 3 superbs all affected , this time next year Rodney

[TheRobinK]

Well, the 2.0 litre update may have problems on the Audi - not power or consumption but an increase in NOx.... whoops!.

 

"...the European Consumer Organization claims that the technical fix, which removes the “defeat device,” brings nitrogen oxide emissions up by 25% after the procedure is performed. The findings come from Italian consumer group Altroconsumo, which has tested an Audi Q5 fitted with the 2.0-liter TDI engine of the EA189 series"

 

Original article here: http://www.autoevolution.com/news/european-consumer-group-says-dieselgate-fix-brings-more-nox-emissions-109288.html#