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Yeti 1.8TSi burning oil – and now needs a new engine


benmahoney

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Hello all

 

New here. But I've had my 2010 Skoda Yeti TSi 1.8 4x4 for about 9 months. It's done 50k miles.

 

The problem is it now needs an entirely new engine.

 

I bought it privately back in October 2015. It was well looked after and...

It has always been serviced at a Skoda dealer, with 1 previous owner, but being 5.5 years old it was out of warranty.

 

Everything was great, I loved it. Really loved it. Until I noticed it burning a lot of oil last winter, getting so bad in spring it was eating roughly 1.5 litres over 500 miles.

 

I took it into my local dealer, at first they couldn't find anything obvious though I don't think they tried that hard.

So they said take it away, drive 300 miles and we'll take another look.

 

So I did, and their response upon looking deeper was "The piston rings are cracked and they need replacing". Cost? £3k.... Gulp.

 

As a good will gesture they said they would pay £850 towards the £3k cost.

So I called Skoda customer relations, who immediately told me in no uncertain terms I didn't have a hope of getting anything more.

Until I put the pressure on that is, and they agreed to paying £1,250. Leaving me with a bill of £1,750. A lot of money but I just wanted it fixed.

 

So I booked it in for the work. I had to wait 6 weeks for a slot. Took it in on the Monday expecting 3 – 4 days of work.

Thursday is wasn't done. Friday it wasn't done. Today, Monday it wasn't done....

 

I called them up and after chasing for 3 hours they've said "it's a horrendously complicated job, with four chains... etc etc. and we think it needs a replacement engine".

 

Right.

 

So why didn't they know this before? I could tell you it's a complex job. To be honest, that's better really, as I would prefer a new engine.

 

So I'm waiting to hear back. But I've been without a car for 10 days. I'm expecting this to cost more £££s. And the customer service is somewhat lacking.

 

My main problem is that for a relatively young car with only 50k miles, it just shouldn't be suffering from such a major failure.

 

Not happy, Skoda. Not happy at all.

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Sorry to hear about your poorly Yeti, seems like another one for the list of TFSI engines that have required replacment.

 

I thought diesels were the winner in unreliability these days with the complicated emissions rubbish and the early oil pump issues but it seems like they can't get the basics right on the petrol engines.

 

Hope you get it sorted soon

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Have Skoda forgotten about the VW Fundamental Design, Manufacturing, Component Choice and Quality Control of some of the 1.8 TSI engines they built.

 

Check out the Octavia Mk2 Section and the pinned thread at the top of the page.

 

What a pity you never bought a Skoda Warranty as your Yeti would have qualified, miles and Servicing schedule 

and no Known Issues as Skoda / VW have to accept, because they lie.

Then you would be getting a new engine with your choice of the Excess you had chosen when buying the £300 or so 12 month Warranty.

 

As it is Skoda UK are mugging you with their Goodwill Contribution,

They do know about the issues, failures etc.

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Have Skoda forgotten about reconditioned engines?

Does any one do that anymore? I've had reconditioned engines in the past and slightly cheaper "short block" engine. Unless the manufacturer does it I don't see any of the engineering companies that used to provide this useful service still in existence. 

 

Fred

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VW do Refurbished Engines straight from their Refurbishing Plant, 

supplied as Guaranteed New Engines and supplied for sale or Warranty Replacement in VW, Skoda, Seat, Audi's.

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Thanks, SuperbTWM. I steered clear of the Diesels for obvious reasons, but didn't expect this from a petrol engine.

In fact the more I research, the more astounded I am about the scale of the problem with these engines.

 

GoneOffSki, yes, hindsight is a wonderful thing.

I suppose having bought a few cars before and never had such a serious problem (including my now 16 year old MX5) I took the chance.

Seriously wishing I had got the extended warranty now though. Or rather, not bought a VAG.

I'll be on the phone to the head office in the morning.

 

I'll update this when I hear more.

Thanks all.

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Wow, that sucks.
I've just bought a 1.8TSi which thankfully has a Skoda warranty as i bought from a main dealer.
Guess i'll have to renew the warranty or get rid before the year is up.

Please keep us up to date on how this goes...

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Most of the EA888 engines manufactured until circa October-November 2011 have this thirst for oil. It is a design issue. VW wanted to make an engine that would burn as little oil as possible. So they employed very thin piston rings, but that made the rings overloaded and led to the opposite of what they had hoped for. After several revisions of pistons and piston rings, they ended up with more or less classical design. And as far as I know, Skoda customers were not the ones that suffered most. These engines come from Audi, so Audi customers were the first to make this unpleasant discovery. 

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About 18 months ago VW eventually came up with their latest fix for the Euro 5 1.4 TSI / TFSI 132-136kW Twincharger that drink too much oil.

Since their introduction in SEAT's in 2009 they tried Breather Pipe Mods 1 and then a 2nd edition, Software Updates, 

Dealers Service Employees saying they all do that, but they done only over 1/3 do.

All sorts of mis-information and denial and ignorance.

 

So latest band aid was SQUIRTERS,. Oil Spray Jets. Update ones and a Software Update.

Works on some, not on others.

Replacement engines required replacing and they were like for like, only this year did they arrive from VW with the Update Squirters fitted.

VW, SEAT, SKODA, AUDI never admit to their Fundamental Design, Manufacturing, Component choice and quality control and software issues.

 

So if you buy an Oil user that other WARRANTY Providers  say they have 'Known Issues; you quickly buy a Skoda Warranty since they know of no issues,  ODD, but if they know of no issues, then you can buy a Approved Warranty,

and then soon after when you get a Official Check done on the Oil use and they say 0.5 litres in 1000km (621 miles) is within tolerances 

they are having a joke, and they can resolve the Oil Burner that the VW Group built.

THE OFFICIAL OIL TEST WEIGHING OIL AND COVERING A MILEAGE LESS THAN 1000km is not fit for purpose, 

and some technicians even think 1 litre of engine oil weighs 1000 grams.

Hundreds of Twincharger are replaced world wide now between 2009-2016, often after a long fight by owners, but sometimes even when out of Warranty.

http://revotechnik.com/support/technical/14tsi-twincharger-engine-issues

 

A Solicitors letter and an Independent Experts Report to HQ and a request for them to review their decision on only offer a low percentage so you will go to court gets their attention.

A court and a ruling based on an report on Fundamental Design, Manufacturing and component choice and quality control failings 

can set a president.

Not one that the VW Group want.

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  • 8 months later...

Hi again

 

Thought I'd add a follow up to my original post from last year.

 

Mainly because the new engine Skoda ended up fitting to my Yeti in August, just blew up on the M1 at the weekend!

 

Last Summer after almost 3 months waiting to get my Yeti fixed (never ever use the fools at Skoda Motorline Dartford) they agreed to fit a new engine. After hounding Skoda customer services and writing to ALL the senior management, they offered 70% of the costs. So the original £6k was down to costing me £1,750.

 

Anyway, all was well until last Friday, just 7 months later, when I accelerated out of the services on the M1 after a pit stop, and the car began juddering, wouldn't accept revs and the EPC and engine warning lights came on. It went into full limp mode. Managed to pull off the M'way and tried a restart - billows of smoke and nasty noises ensued. I fear it's the timing belt and yes, another new engine! Got the Yeti towed back to Skoda Croydon.

 

It's being looked at today. The old/new engine is under the two year warranty, and the labour has a one year guarantee. Or it better had be.

 

But this is now beyond a joke. I'll update with what they find. But these TSi engine seems like they're ticking time bombs. I loved my Yeti, but I think it's time for something else.

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With the Original Quoted Price of £6,000 that would usually be a Base Engine they stopped supplying and fitting Short Units.

So what is Supplied can be new off the Engine Production or from the VW Refurbish Plant so New.

VW Original Replacement and covered by a 2 Year Warranty when Cash Money buys it or pays for even some of it and not paid by a Skoda, VW, Audi, Seat 

manufacturers warranty.

So as long as diesel was not put in the tank rather than petrol and the Engine or components fitted have failed then the Parts Warranty should be good.

(All the numbers from the Replacement Engines should be on the system even though Skoda UK say the DVLA do not need informed of the like for like replacement, that is not true.)

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49 minutes ago, Awayoffski said:

With the Original Quoted Price of £6,000 that would usually be a Base Engine they stopped supplying and fitting Short Units.

So what is Supplied can be new off the Engine Production or from the VW Refurbish Plant so New.

VW Original Replacement and covered by a 2 Year Warranty when Cash Money buys it or pays for even some of it and not paid by a Skoda, VW, Audi, Seat 

manufacturers warranty.

So as long as diesel was not put in the tank rather than petrol and the Engine or components fitted have failed then the Parts Warranty should be good.

(All the numbers from the Replacement Engines should be on the system even though Skoda UK say the DVLA do not need informed of the like for like replacement, that is not true.)

 

That's right, it was a new base engine. Had a green flag chap look at it, he tested fuel, sparks and coil packs, said it was the timing gone awry.... 

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55 minutes ago, Ryeman said:

A new engine and an 'old' turbo perhaps.

Either way I'd be rid of it.

 

I did suspect the turbo. Either way it's gone, once it's fixed...

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....and every day I thank my stars that I got rid of the noisy, oil burning 1.2TSI as soon as the warranty expired.  VAG quality and reliability are a complete illusion.

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3 hours ago, calmac said:

....and every day I thank my stars that I got rid of the noisy, oil burning 1.2TSI as soon as the warranty expired.  VAG quality and reliability are a complete illusion.

Strange isn't it that many of us have had no problems whatsoever with our 1.2 Tsi's. My first Yeti - 1.2 DSG - did over 50,000 faultless miles and was quiet and smooth. New Yeti has only done 700 miles so far and is quieter and smoother than first one. Neither used a drop of oil so far. 

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4 hours ago, calmac said:

....and every day I thank my stars that I got rid of the noisy, oil burning 1.2TSI as soon as the warranty expired.  VAG quality and reliability are a complete illusion.

 

And the moon is made of cheese and pigs fly.

 

Get the facts straight, YOU had a problem with YOUR car, but there are thousands of owners out there who have had NO problems and are perfectly satisfied with their lot.

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Surely hundreds and hundreds of thousands happy and thousands sadly seriously let down, sometimes lied to..

Or Millions happy and many tens of thousands unhappy.

11 million that might not all feel cheated, but many that do and will unless the 1/2 a million in the USA being seen right.

 

Hope that 'Ignore button is working'.

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22 hours ago, benmahoney said:

 

That's right, it was a new base engine. Had a green flag chap look at it, he tested fuel, sparks and coil packs, said it was the timing gone awry.... 

Hmm, very unusual, I believe new short motor in 2016 surely had new/modified chain and latest tensioner "K" fitted straight from the manufacturer, no one at dealer should do anything with that, I wonder what is the real issue when mechanic dive deeper into the wreck ... Had you always enough oil in engine?

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