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Had the yeti for 8 days now first long trip, 800 miles of smiles.

 

Coming from a superb petrol i was expecting the yeti to be tractor like in preformance and noise but very suprised how refined it is,ok at idle the engine noise is noticeable but the auto engine stop/start is a great addition.

 

The amundsen sat nav  and dab radio are excellent,my previous car had columbus which was ok but so out dated.

 

Dsg gearbox is a dream,the sport mode is helpful for the quick get away  :bandit:,the car works very well very responsive on all roads and weathers,its a pleasure to drive.

 

Very happy with fuel consumption,dont have to stop so often now. Just a great car.

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My new Yeti (MY17), collected from dealer on 5th of this month, has DSG but the paddle shift option is no longer available - believe me I tried to get it fitted - (shame as I have it on my Golf and I agree entirely with 137699 - it's magic! Despite this disappointment the DSG is smooth and effortless and just makes me smile - I can't understand why anyone would want to drive a manual. I've only travelled some 500 miles so far but I'm a very happy owner and long may it continue. To date averaging just over 48mpg.

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Got to agree.

 

I have just come from a creamy smooth 2.5i inline 6 petrol in a Z4 and traded that against a 2.0TDI 170bhp in the Yeti and I'm very pleasantly surprised indeed.  It's a bit tractor like but no worse than my wife's X3 and it's certainly got a turn of pace about it.

 

Quick question for you derv owners though - do yours make a chirping / whistling noise when the turbo's under load?  I'm presuming not.  Mine's doing it (it's a 2014 with 24k miles on it).  Dealer says "they all do it" but I doubt it's a chirping and more of a very faint whistle.

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Cannot comment regarding the 'chirping' sound, but for as long as I can remember my diesel Octy Scout made a low whistle/whooshing sound when I pressed the accelerator, almost liked a delayed echo.

No mention was made of this on any of the Service documentation, or after Service roadtests. However, it was recently noted that a gasket or valve in the EGR Cooler was leaking, and since that has been replaced the whooshing/whistling sound has gone. In fact, it is the quietest the car has ever been.

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do yours make a chirping / whistling noise when the turbo's under load?

 

2016 model, only 4100 miles so far but answer, 'No'. 

Unaware of the turbo apart from the shove in the back when my right foot goes down a bit far!

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My new Yeti (MY17), collected from dealer on 5th of this month, has DSG but the paddle shift option is no longer available - believe me I tried to get it fitted - (shame as I have it on my Golf and I agree entirely with 137699 - it's magic! Despite this disappointment the DSG is smooth and effortless and just makes me smile - I can't understand why anyone would want to drive a manual. I've only travelled some 500 miles so far but I'm a very happy owner and long may it continue. To date averaging just over 48mpg.

 

I don't think the paddles were ever an option on the Yeti.

 

Personally I'm not a big fan and after years of driving manuals found it more natural using the stick in my Passat DSG diesel. Not that I used it that often, but it was useful for towing.

 

I think manuals in a diesel Yeti are a good combination and don't miss the DSG in mine at all.

 

Personally again, I think DSG are better suited to petrol engines and preferably in a sporty car! That was going to the dream but I ended up with a manual TT roadster! Great engine and gearbox though.

 

I'll maybe return to a DSG next time.

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Cannot comment regarding the 'chirping' sound, but for as long as I can remember my diesel Octy Scout made a low whistle/whooshing sound when I pressed the accelerator, almost liked a delayed echo.

No mention was made of this on any of the Service documentation, or after Service roadtests. However, it was recently noted that a gasket or valve in the EGR Cooler was leaking, and since that has been replaced the whooshing/whistling sound has gone. In fact, it is the quietest the car has ever been.

Is the Octy's EGR cooler easy to get at?.

How much did the labour cost?.

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I don't think the paddles were ever an option on the Yeti.

 

Personally I'm not a big fan and after years of driving manuals found it more natural using the stick in my Passat DSG diesel. Not that I used it that often, but it was useful for towing.

 

I think manuals in a diesel Yeti are a good combination and don't miss the DSG in mine at all.

 

Personally again, I think DSG are better suited to petrol engines and preferably in a sporty car! That was going to the dream but I ended up with a manual TT roadster! Great engine and gearbox though.

 

I'll maybe return to a DSG next time.

Anything with reduced complexity suits me fine.........my faith in long term durability is negligible.
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Is the Octy's EGR cooler easy to get at?.

How much did the labour cost?.

You would ask me that after I'd literally filed the paperwork down!

Labour was 5.8hrs @ £75.00 plus vat. As well as replacing the EGR Cooler, I also had the OSR Differential seal replaced at the same time.

Total for both was £1057.44. Fortunately I had taken out a 36 month aftermarket warranty (at the time of taking out the warranty, they gave me an extra month free - both parts were diagnosed as faulty at the beginning of the free month!) so I only had to pay the £50 excess.

Cannot comment on how easy it is to access, but the independent engineer sent out by the warranty company couldn't see it, but confirmed it was faulty due to the strong smell of exhaust gasses coming from the engine bay.

He diagnosed the OSR Differential in seconds, even showing me the pictures he had taken on his camera despite the fact a highly regarded Glasgow dealership gave it a clean bill of health on two separate occasions.

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I don't think the paddles were ever an option on the Yeti.

 

Personally I'm not a big fan and after years of driving manuals found it more natural using the stick in my Passat DSG diesel. Not that I used it that often, but it was useful for towing.

 

I think manuals in a diesel Yeti are a good combination and don't miss the DSG in mine at all.

 

Personally again, I think DSG are better suited to petrol engines and preferably in a sporty car! That was going to the dream but I ended up with a manual TT roadster! Great engine and gearbox though.

 

I'll maybe return to a DSG next time.

 

Hi VAGCF - I am very interested to hear that you think "flappy paddles" weren't ever an option as when I ordered my car back in April the sales executive told me they were an option but had to be stipulated and paid extra for (as distinct from my Golf where they were automatically included at no extra cost) however an email from him some days later informed me that SKODA had confirmed that this option was no longer available. Next time I'm in the dealership I'll be having a quiet word (LOL). The good news that even without the paddles I just love the DSG.

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Yes, that was my understanding and hence my comment.

As an aside I had an Audi A6 after the Passat which had the CVT auto fitted. Very smooth unsurprisingly but I was never happy with the engine revs not matching the road speed. But also the manual selection/paddles would give 8 speeds which was a bit inpractible really as you were constantly having to change gear. So a waste of time really and I only ever used it once or twice really to try it out.

Good job VWG never introduced the planned 10 speed DSG! I wonder if they ever will? That would have killed the DSG as being the almost perfect blend of the manual and auto boxes.

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In theory CVT is the ants pants if you're into economy.........certainly not if you're into listening to the exhaust note.

Either way I would worry about the belt life.

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The last iteration of the ICE may be a fully optimised low emissions engine, operating in a very narrow rev range transmitting through a CVT.

Enthusiasts can start praying

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Re. post #16. No, that was the other problem, though nothing I was overly concerned about given my reduced annual mileage.

But the fuel consumption achieved by many owners with the CVT (can't remember Audis name for it) could never match, or even come close, to those with manual gear boxes despite Audis figures for both types of boxes being near identical.

Obviously manufacturers figures should be taken with a pinch of salt but one would expect a similar shortfall in real world use, but that wasn't the case, the CVT was always reported as being far worse.

Probably why it was dropped and replaced with a DSG box shortly afterwards in the new Ultra range.

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And with regards to your last post alternatively being used as part as a hybrid system and just being used to keep the batteries charged.

Either way, pretty poor from a driving enjoyment perspective.

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Hi guys , Have owned Diesels since 1980 and have covered 3.5 Million /Miles/KM's and my  "Snowman" is first auto.

 

The guy who taught me, was a "Road Train operator,  2 Milk Trailers",  who did the Milk Run Longreach Qld to Mt.Isa & Return over 2 1/2 days.

 

John had 2 Rules that he drummed into me:

1. Always allow your Diesel to warmup  before driving off.

2. Never allow your Diesel to labour, if it gets close change to a lower gear.

 

Have done 60,000 km in my "snowman"  has been faultless except for "Diesel Gate" friends who driven my are also impressed.

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Thanks for the comments on the turbo and chirping sound.

 

Wife thinks it's coming from the centre of the dash behind the firewall.  I flipped the bonnet yesterday and traced the turbo to directly behind the block and located centrally in front of the firewall, so it's definitely the turbo and the sound is evident when blipping the throttle at idle.

 

I'm wondering whether it's a sticking wastegate or something.  Although there's not much room, I couldn't see any evidence of a loose or split hose.  

 

Anyway, it's going into Vindis Cambs shortly for investigation.  Perhaps I'll post a new thread on the issue and solution once it's back.

Thanks to all for their comments.  I was pretty sure that it wasn't a natural phenomenon for the derv since none of my other derv units have ever done it.

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If it is like a hollow sounding, low pitched whistle when you are revving the car up then don't worry, it is the turbo speeding up. These things can spin at over 100,000 rpm when at full boost and experience temperatures in excess of 500 C when under heavy load for a long period. As long as it doesn't start screaming then it will be fine, the noise is generated by the turbo internals spinning and being very slightly out of balance, usually to within a few hundredths of a gram and shouldn't effect long term reliability as long as you follow a few short steps to preserve it. A sticking wastegate or variable vanes will result in error light and codes due to boost being out of normal parameters.

Ian

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Mine sounds like a very low ringing in the ears

I suggest you double check it is not coming from your air con. unit. This is a known problem due to swarf in the system. It is an easy check - if air con. is on, switch off. If off switch on. If the ringing sound changes you have the root cause. My car has this fault and will get fixed at the next service.

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