Skoda RNS510 power question

[Dramacydril]

Hi to all,

 

I have a quick question. Would anybody be kind enough to answer me because i dont know much about this stuff. Thank you.

 

I have a skoda rns510 columbus 1Z0 035 680 A that i bought with a defect (logo bootloop). I want to try to fix this but i need some external power.

 

What do i need to give this thing some 12v power so i can fix this thing at home. I know there is a adapter like this one:

 

 

 

 

Is there anything cheaper and more simple to do this?

thanks

 

 

[Rustynuts]

How cheap do you need it? Essentially all you need to do is put power onto two pins and ground onto one, but an adapter like that is ideal.

[Dramacydril]

How cheap do you need it? Essentially all you need to do is put power onto two pins and ground onto one, but an adapter like that is ideal.

Well if i order this adapter i can wait on it for several weeks. I have plenty laptop adapters at home. Maybe i can do the same with those like you said, maybe cut the cable of the adapter and connect the cables somehow to the pins?? But what about ground? thanks for your response

 

[Rustynuts]

Your laptop adapter needs to be 12v for a start. Many are 18v or 19v, and that wouldn't be a good idea to connect to your Columbus.

 

If you do have a 12v one it'll need to be 3a (at least that's what I use) but you might get away with 2a perhaps. I wouldn't cut the end off, just get a female jack adapter and run wires off that to three small croc clips. You can then connect the croc clips to the correct pins on the Columbus, then plug the whole thing in and hope you don't tug a wire and put volts where it shouldn't be. The power supply provides voltage and ground so you wire power to the correct utput of the power supply, and ground to the other.

[Rustynuts]

Oh, I just saw where you bought your Columbus from... That was overpriced at the auction starting price.

[Dramacydril]

Your laptop adapter needs to be 12v for a start. Many are 18v or 19v, and that wouldn't be a good idea to connect to your Columbus.

 

If you do have a 12v one it'll need to be 3a (at least that's what I use) but you might get away with 2a perhaps. I wouldn't cut the end off, just get a female jack adapter and run wires off that to three small croc clips. You can then connect the croc clips to the correct pins on the Columbus, then plug the whole thing in and hope you don't tug a wire and put volts where it shouldn't be. The power supply provides voltage and ground so you wire power to the correct utput of the power supply, and ground to the other.

 

Thank you very much for your info and time.

1. look for a 12v adapter 3a or 2a (maybe)

2. Get female jack adapter

3. Get 3 croc clips ( positive, negative, GND)

4  Connect adapter to female jack adapter

5. Connect 3 croc clips to wires coming from the female jack adapter.

6. connect 2 croc clips to RNS510 positive / negative pins

7. Connect last croc GROUND to .......?

[Dramacydril]

Oh, I just saw where you bought your Columbus from... That was overpriced at the auction starting price.

 

I didnt buy it from there haha. I bought it with the boot loop (skoda logo shut down) defect for 15 euro's. Is that a bad price? Im trying to fix it to use it in my car or sell it for a good price IF i can repair it.

[Rustynuts]

You need two live (12v) connections, and one ground/neutral connection.

There was a Columbus just appeared on Ebay with a boot fault, someone bid on it, and now it's gone.

[Dramacydril]

You need two live (12v) connections, and one ground/neutral connection.

There was a Columbus just appeared on Ebay with a boot fault, someone bid on it, and now it's gone.

Hi Rustynuts, i did what you said. I connected the positive and negative to pin numbers 15 and 12. I can hear the unit starting, also the dvd can be heard. The screen stays black, no logo nothing. I can see the backlight but no image, after some seconds it restarts itself and does the same. As a repair man can you tell me what this could be and what can be done by myself? Thanks

[Rustynuts]

Black screen problem could be the screen pcb board or the actual screen itself. If you shine a torch at the screen can you see any sign of the image showing? If not then screen board, but if you can see the image of the unit working then it might just be the screen backlight.

[FanTsang]

It could well be a faulty Hard Disk Drive, which is inside the unit, used for the system, media and navigation files.  It should operate like a computer, where it would boot up from the drive for the system and a faulty, or corrupted one can cause it to reboot, or hang, as it has problems trying to read from the drive....

 

The first RNS510 that I bought from eBay was stuck on the logo and rebooted.  I was able to hear the sound from the drive to know it was abnormal (having worked on PCs, laptops, PS3s doing something similar).  As it was faulty out of the box it was returned back to the seller and got a working replacement RNS510 unit.

[Rustynuts]

Nope, faulty drive wouldn't cause black screen issues. At least if it does it's the first one I've come across. The system doesn't boot from the hard drive anyway as that's only used for maps and music, it boots from the mainboard and stored programming on the eeprom chips.

[Dramacydril]

Thanks for your comments. Still a black screen with backlight working. Cant see nothing with shining light. I replaced the hd with an empty one (fat32 120gb). Still nothing.

Im beginning to think it needs more then 2 x 12v. Maybe i need the adapter in the first post with something called CAN emulator in it? Because i didnt understand the Ground cable thing i connected the adapter without the 3rd Ground connection. Can that be a reason the screen doesnt work?

 

 

Brown - negative   pin 12

Blue - positive        pin 15       

 

 

 

 

 

 

PIN NUMBER 11 - DISPLAY VOLTAGE SUPPLY?????

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 26 September, 2016 by Dramacydril

[Rustynuts]

You need ground or negative (they're both the same thing here...) on pin number 12, and 12v live on pins 15 & 16. To be honest you don't really need to use pin 16 (labelled "SAFE") for testing purposes but it makes it easier if you do.

 

If you have 12v on pin 15 (and /or 16) and neutral or ground on pin 12 then the unit should fire up. If it doesn't then you have a fault with the unit. So back to where we started, if you can hear activity inside the unit and nothing on the screen then you have a faulty screen somehow. If you can't see any activity on the screen with a torch then in's not a backlight issue with the screen, therefore it's the screen pcb which is faulty.

 

Changing the hard drive was a pointless exercise as it wouldn't be that which caused no screen activity. The mainboard would fire the screen and show the Skoda splash image before it even interrogated the hard drive, so if you don't even have a splash image on startup then you have either a faulty mainboard which is entirely possible, or the screen board which is most likely.

Edited 9 October, 2016 by Rustynuts

[Dramacydril]

You need ground or negative (they're both the same thing here...) on pin number 12, and 12v live on pins 15 & 16. To be honest you don't really need to use pin 16 (labelled "SAFE") for testing purposes but it makes it easier if you do.

 

If you have 12v on pin 15 (and /or 16) and neutral or ground on pin 9 then the unit should fire up. If it doesn't then you have a fault with the unit. So back to where we started, if you can hear activity inside the unit and nothing on the screen then you have a faulty screen somehow. If you can't see any activity on the screen with a torch then in's not a backlight issue with the screen, therefore it's the screen pcb which is faulty.

 

Changing the hard drive was a pointless exercise as it wouldn't be that which caused no screen activity. The mainboard would fire the screen and show the Skoda splash image before it even interrogated the hard drive, so if you don't even have a splash image on startup then you have either a faulty mainboard which is entirely possible, or the screen board which is most likely.

 

Thanks for your help!. I will try it tommorrow.