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My neighbour told me today that he's had a letter from Skoda inviting him to take his Octavia 4x4 to have the emissions 'fix'. I've not heard anything yet about my Scout. Anyone else had 'the letter'?

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Mine was in for service last week (emission affected 2011 VRS). Since I got

it back I have been convinced it's driving like a bit of a pig at low revs.

Reading this I'm wondering whether they have given it some sort of power sapping/emission busting software update! They didn't say anything about it and it's not on the paperwork.

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I have decided against the recall and opted for a re-map instead. I am already seeing 4 - 5 mpg extra on my 17 mile trip to work, along with much better performance.

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As a 1.6TDI driver, I am not taking my car back to Skoda, for alledgedly a 50p "air straightner" to be fitted, simply because I figure they will also do an undeclared "re-map" which can only be for the worser.

A local guru with a proper diagnostic computer will keep me right from here on in.

marcus

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We have owned the car from new at the same address, so easily traceable, but apart from a letter near a year ago, OK , perhaps 6 months ago, no furthur word.

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Don't have the recall done. Nothing to gain, lots to lose.

 

Too many complaints of the car behaving different immediately after the recall for me...

 

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/403828-just-refused-the-vag-emissions-recall/

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About 30 recalls in and not one complaint.

You might find that Skoda dealers actually have "proper diagnostic computers" as part of the terms of them being a repairer for the manufacturer and you're not really getting a better machine than one with genuine ODIS on it.

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There are enough issues reported on Briskoda alone to convince me the recall isn't risk free.

 

If there were potential gains to be had then that risk might be mitigated, but there aren't so there is zero benefit to having it done.

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I don't own a diesel but to have my say, I can't see a positive upside to this other than rectifying potential adverse pollutants and levels and I would be cautiousally apprehensive a out deploying a fix unless the outcome was known / guaranteed.

If there was no downside to running a different map to properly comply, I don't or can't understand why vw did not employ this at the time. They must have felt the compromises were too great to be acceptable. Far to great to accept and instead, incentivised them to act illegally. So what magic has now resolved the unacceptable and unpalatable compromises vw were not willing to accept at the time?

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I suspect that VAG dealers will be losing servicing work due to this emissions 'recall'.  Owners not wanting the software change will be avoiding VAG dealers for servicing to ensure that their cars are not modified.  That is certainly what I will be doing.  The local independent VAG specialist will be receiving my servicing custom from now on.

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Wow!,

In so far as I actually understood that, it sure sounded convincing, proper jealous of such literacy skilz  I am being.

I agree - an excellent bit of writing.  Pity it contained a spelling mistake! :notme:

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About 30 recalls in and not one complaint.

You might find that Skoda dealers actually have "proper diagnostic computers" as part of the terms of them being a repairer for the manufacturer and you're not really getting a better machine than one with genuine ODIS on it.

30 recalls in and not one complaint, i would love to know the age demographic of these owners, they probably belive everything the main dealer tells them , 

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30 recalls in and not one complaint, i would love to know the age demographic of these owners, they probably belive everything the main dealer tells them ,

They have ranged from late 20s to early 60s, private owners, taxis and fleet. We even flashed our local Bosch equipment reps car and he was happy with it and noticed little if any difference.

Maybe they believe what we tell them because we don't benefit from misleading them.

We didn't become the UKs number 1 dealer by bull ****ting our customers. All that does is dig a hole that's very difficult to get out of.

Not all dealers are the same :)

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The thing is that not all have 2.0 TDI, 1.6TDI or 1.2 TDI that perform all the same anyway.

Not even cars made at the same time on the same line.

 

So time will tell just how many do have changes in performance, economy or even reliability, because up to the Voluntary Recall Actions there are plenty 

that have vehicles running very well, and some that are crap.

 

Maybe some Servicing and The Fix will have some performing for the better. It will come out in the wash, 

and if someone has a troublesome vehicle now, maybe an idea to get it in for the Fix.

 

Get the names and signature of the person that is handing over 'The Guarantee on behalf of the VW Group & the Workshop actaing as the agent that there will be no adverse affects. Get the written guarantee that they will take the vehicle to an expert for testing if their is any adverse affect on the vehicles performance.

Collect your courtesy car and your expenses for attending to have the VW Group meet their requirements to carry out The Fix.

 

If there are only 1 in 10 done so far in the UK they have a long way to go over the next 12 Months.

But then so many of the Vehicles are owned by VW Finance & other Lease Companies VWG own anyway and will be back to dealers by at least 2 years from now.

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Agreed. There must be some compromise somewhere but VW AG are keeping their cards very close to their chest on this one.

The only thing that I've heard from anyone officially "in the know" is that a newly designed piece of equipment has been designed and built that allowed for much more strenuous testing of the injector flow patterns. This technology didn't exist at the time the cars were designed but now it is available VW AG have been able to further optimise the use of the injectors to reduce emissions without effecting other characteristics, apparently.

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Sounds plausible, but I remain unconvinced, since I doubt this development could effect the necessary %age emissions changes required, and despite falling about laughing at some conspiracy theories I have read (esp on Benzworld), personally I would NOT trust our local highly awarded dealership, since they absolutly( & twice too) tried to convince there was nowt wrong re the known EGR issue,"our computer shows no faults Sir", despite me having the fault codes downloaded by the local Indy, in the 58th/59th month of the 5 year warrenty.

Which cost over £800.00 to rectify.

Ditto the whole VW cover-up re known 2010 period DSG issues.

Barstewarts!

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