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Picked up my brand new Yeti earlier this month and the reason I'm writing is in connection with a query that has come to light whilst reading the owners manual supplied with the vehicle (edition "Yeti anglicky 05.2016"):

 

On the MAXI DOT system display in the menu Settings there is "Coasting"option. This is detailed on both pages 44 and 110 of the owners manual but I do not understand when/if I should activate/deactivate this option - can any other owner please explain this option to me in relation to my usage of my Yeti. Many thanks in advance for your help.
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Mixed advice on this one I guess. I quite like it and therefor I have mine switched on. It's like a freewheel so that you drive up a hill and lift off the throttle and the car 'coasts' with the revs at idle speed, no engine braking. Touch the brake or throttle and the engine braking is resumed. It will not coast again unless you touch the throttle again. It's a bit like Start/Stop you either love it or hate it.

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Picked up my brand new Yeti earlier this month and the reason I'm writing is in connection with a query that has come to light whilst reading the owners manual supplied with the vehicle (edition "Yeti anglicky 05.2016"):

 

On the MAXI DOT system display in the menu Settings there is "Coasting"option. This is detailed on both pages 44 and 110 of the owners manual but I do not understand when/if I should activate/deactivate this option - can any other owner please explain this option to me in relation to my usage of my Yeti. Many thanks in advance for your help.

 

 

I switched it off, as I didn't like what I perceived the "loss of control/engine braking"  ... yes I know diesel engine braking is not the same/pronounced as petrol engine braking ... but I use ...  for example you were coming up behind on a car ahead, I would normally lift off and allow the car to slow, then maintain the distance I want with the throttle ..... with coasting switched on you arrive at the car with little or no engine braking so i found I would then need to brake ... before maintaining the distance I want .... I can usually do that just using lift-off and/or throttle modulation.

As I hate driving along behind people who don't know how to use a throttle and dab the brake to maintain distance or speed at every car, corner or curve on the road ... a pet hate I know, but the "coasting" option just annoyed me ... so I disabled it.

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I have coasting enabled and think it's ok but not so keen on stop start possibly because I have dsg

 

Interestingly, I also have a DSG and feel I'd be less happy if the car was a manual. I guess it's whatever makes you feel comfortable and in control?

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Interestingly, I also have a DSG and feel I'd be less happy if the car was a manual. I guess it's whatever makes you feel comfortable and in control?

 

Obviously, its just me ...... but I disabled that feature as well!

 

Ho-hum ;)

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Obviously, its just me ...... but I disabled that feature as well!

 

Ho-hum ;)

One of the nice things about having the option, you pay your money and make your choice.

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I guess the emissions test involves changes in speed, in which case coasting would result in theoretical (laboratory) savings in consumption and thus a lower CO2 figure to boast about.

I have noticed engine braking (zero consumption) seems to be recognised and give a better 'range' boost than freewheeling (which still requires ide fuel consumption) that's why I believe it's the figure on the windscreen that's behind it; plus it's something to add in the endless list of features in the brochure.

To me it's just another sign of desperation for the lowest emissions figure from an unrealistic rolling road.

The 308 is getting close to a fill after 975km with 150 range still showing - 53L tank - 70p/L

The 2008 gets ~ 28 km/L (1400km fm 50) - 62p/L

I don't bother with coasting as fuel is dirt cheap currently.

I have to remember to de-select cc down steeper hills or it will engage lower gears to maintain the set speed.

Just rambling on.......

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What I've noticed in using the coasting function is that on a longish hill with a similar decent you can reach the top of the hill at 60mph and the bottom at 70mph.  On the A5 near us there is a stretch of road that has a rolling set of hills.  On a clear road I can coast down one side and get over half way up the next without loosing much of the speed I had when I started the previous decent.  I've tried that without the coasting and of course I'm have to touch the accelerator on the first decent.  Still playing with it really and I'm mindful to play on a clear road. 

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^^^^^ way maximising economy is fun but requires a permanent high level of concentration but often not practical due to traffic around you eg allowing acceleration down a hill but slowing uphill which is often not practical or reasonable.

Automation is aimed at lowering emissions not saving you money.

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^^^^^ way maximising economy is fun but requires a permanent high level of concentration but often not practical due to traffic around you eg allowing acceleration down a hill but slowing uphill which is often not practical or reasonable.

Automation is aimed at lowering emissions not saving you money.

 

Without wanting to start an argument over this why do you say that coasting will not save you fuel?

When I've Googled this I get loads of advice saying the opposite?

 

I do a regular trip of about 115 miles part local roads and a reasonable chunk of motorway.  When I've clocked a few more miles I intend to do a with and without coasting a number of times and compare the Maxdot mpg.  Now of course traffic will affect this I know but if I do it a few times it will average out I'm sure. 

Even based on my low milage current mpg, compared to my old 140 the 150 is giving me 4+mpg more fuel saving this may be just a better fuel efficient engine and nothing to do with Star/Stop or coasting but for me the weight of evidence suggest it might contribute.

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My attitude is that complexity is killing the real world cost of motoring.

Gentle/subtle use of the accelerator can do exactly the same as coasting and traffic makes it irrelevant enough of the time but it might be effective during that emissions test which is completely unrealistic.....it's a case of the law of diminishing returns - the more you spend, the less you get.

Nobody can define a savings because every trip is unique ....temperature wind traffic rain etc

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Thanks so much for all you input(s) everyone - I think I shall try each option for both coasting and stop/start (which I've had on other cars) over my next lengthy journeys (doing 'on' outward and 'off' homeward) and assimilate the results.

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Really the best way to do it in Scotland with so many Average Camera stretches on the Trunk Roads & the Motorways.

It does wonders for good fuel economy and the Stop/ start & Auto hold has become invaluable around all the Central Belt road works areas.

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I disabled the coasting function the first time I drove mine.

Hate it, for the same reasons as Truckbus.

Do have start/stop enabled and still getting used to it.

Great in traffic jams, but have been caught out at junctions a few times.

Sat waiting for a gap, one appears, put your foot down to go and by the time the engine has started and the car has started to go, it's too late.

I know I can release pressure on the brake to restart the engine in readiness, it's just a case of remembering to do it.

DOH!

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I've got it enabled on my 1.4l petrol Yeti and quite like it.

I've altered my driving slightly to take advantage of coasting mode and these days I don't really notice that I'm in coasting mode. It makes the most difference when I'm driving longer distances and out of the city/suburbia.

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Can anyone please confirm that the Coasting function is available on a MY 2017 1.2 TSI DSG Yeti ?

 

We have just taken delivery of ours, but two functions I had thought would be available via Maxi-Dot are not there! "Coasting" and "ATA- confirm" [activating the alarm chirps]. Having had a MY2011 Yeti, I know that "ATA - confirm" was in the menu system (and still is, as the current good book says  :giggle: ). The Drivers manual also speaks about the "coasting" function being in the menu also. Just not in ours......???

Thanks in advance........Tony

 

Hmmmm....Memo to self - must test the alarm tomorrow and make sure it is working! The indicator lights flash as they should when I lock / unlock the car, just no "Chirps". Anyway, hopefully all is OK. but would like an answer to the coasting function if you can help?

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Having had a MY2011 Yeti, I know that "ATA - confirm" was in the menu system (and still is, as the current good book says  :giggle: )

Instead of the ATA confirm tick box being under Convenience has it been moved a folder down into Central Locking?

Am I right in saying the "Rain Closing" tick box has also disappeared from Convenience.

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Instead of the ATA confirm tick box being under Convenience has it been moved a folder down into Central Locking?

Am I right in saying the "Rain Closing" tick box has also disappeared from Convenience.

I was wondering where the ATA confirm had gone.

I've been through all the menus and sub menus. It's not there.

I'm now thinking it may be enabled with VCDS

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I have a 66 plate 1.2 DSG SEL and cannot see the coasting function in any of the menus, so unless its enabled through VCDS it looks like the 1.2 DSG version doesn't have it

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I have a 66 plate 1.2 DSG SEL and cannot see the coasting function in any of the menus, so unless its enabled through VCDS it looks like the 1.2 DSG version doesn't have it

 

Thanks Don. Well that's two of us with 1.2 DSGs that don't have it so you may well be right !

 

Urrell - Good try but no go I am afraid. Cannot help with the "Rain Closing" as we don't have that feature - Thanks for responding!

 

CFB - You are probably right about the VCDS and ATA. But I am going to wait a while before I go near MAX with VCDS. Seems to be quite a few scare stories about the interface and the latest Yeti's, and I am just a scaredy cat!. Again - Many Thanks !

 

I wonder, if indeed "we" are correct in surmising that the 1.2 DSG Yeti does not have the coasting feature, why it doesn't ?. Though our new Yeti seems much better in it's selection of gears than our previous one, not to mention smoother and more responsive. I'm sure that the coasting feature would have helped boost it's MPG and emission figures. The one thing I was not looking forward to having, was the Stop / Start system. Having had the car only a few days I must admit that the feature has quite grown on me and think that it mates perfectly with the DSG for normal use. (stands back, awaiting abuse being hurled) - [it's just my opinion!]

 

Thanks again all...............Tony

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Thanks Don. Well that's two of us with 1.2 DSGs that don't have it so you may well be right !

 

Urrell - Good try but no go I am afraid. Cannot help with the "Rain Closing" as we don't have that feature - Thanks for responding!

 

CFB - You are probably right about the VCDS and ATA. But I am going to wait a while before I go near MAX with VCDS. Seems to be quite a few scare stories about the interface and the latest Yeti's, and I am just a scaredy cat!. Again - Many Thanks !

 

I wonder, if indeed "we" are correct in surmising that the 1.2 DSG Yeti does not have the coasting feature, why it doesn't ?. Though our new Yeti seems much better in it's selection of gears than our previous one, not to mention smoother and more responsive. I'm sure that the coasting feature would have helped boost it's MPG and emission figures. The one thing I was not looking forward to having, was the Stop / Start system. Having had the car only a few days I must admit that the feature has quite grown on me and think that it mates perfectly with the DSG for normal use. (stands back, awaiting abuse being hurled) - [it's just my opinion!]

 

Thanks again all...............Tony

The SE version is not upmarket enough perhaps.

Stop/start with autos are consistent and predictable......the manual perhaps not, certainly not in my car.

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The SE version is not upmarket enough perhaps.

Stop/start with autos are consistent and predictable......the manual perhaps not, certainly not in my car.

It did catch me out a couple of times, at junctions, before I got used to it.

Waiting to pull out into a gap and start/stop activated. Went to go and the second or so it takes to restart meant pulling out with less time available before the oncoming car.

I've now learned to ease the brake in readiness so the engine is running.

Much less worrying.

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I worry about a 'knit one pearl one' entry into a roundabout only to have it 'bong' and cause road rage.......we shouldn't have to worry about that possibility.

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