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I think you might have to tell the battery management system that a larger capacity battery is installed but I could be wrong. You will probably need VCDS to do it

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What do you mean it has to be configured? So the car will still think it has the old battery in it even after swapping it out w the new Verta? Lol. Alittle crazy. Is this something you need the dealership to handle?

 

thanks for the info 

Joe

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It's not just the size of battery. Isn't that extra connector on a stop start battery for a condition monitor - does this render battery replacement a dealer only job?

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I am not sure for VW or skoda, I have worked several years ago on the software of the battery management electronics for Kia and the electronics is configured with the data of the battery: size, max crank current, type(Gel, AGM) etc this is needed to estimate as accurate as possible the behavior. 

I imagine that you will have less accuracy if this configuration is not done but you could raise the question to the dealer. The electronics should be on the negative pole of the battery 

 

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With a Start-Stop vehicle fitted with an AGM battery, the technician cannot just replace the battery in the way that they have done with a traditional battery where, as mentioned earlier, the greatest challenge was simply to ensure a supply feed was maintained.

Instead as the battery is intricately linked to the vehicle’s on-board electronics via a battery management system (BMS) or intelligent battery sensor (IBS), so it has to be integrated into the system and paired with the BMS/IBS, which requires specialist equipment. Without the equipment to assist the technician and introduce the battery into the system, the vehicle could illuminate error messages on the dash, fail to charge the battery or simply not start at all.

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oops , I just bought a battery of the same capacity  and put it on

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1 hour ago, peterposh said:

 

 

oops , I just bought a battery of the same capacity  and put it on

 

Does your stop/start still work?

 

Has your battery got that extra sensor connector?

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On 5/14/2017 at 11:28, peterposh said:

yes , all seems ok and that was a few months ago

Yes it will be ok, the car will show 6 or more fault lights but these will reset once you drive a short distance

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Well an update. Yesterday I jumped in the superB on my way to a Bruno Mars concert and "low battery" was displayed on the radio screen. I also got a "bong" sound when I opened the door. I was pretty ****ed about it so I pulled the wires to the parking timer I put in a few weeks ago. Drove off to the concert and ran the car a good 30 minutes on the way home. Didn't see any more warnings or sounds. Car fired right off nicely. 

 

Im guessing the parking timer has gone bad and is pulling juice all the time. I've had it in 3 cars now with zero issues. But I guess the Superb doesn't like it. Gonna test it all out this weekend w my electrical tester and try to find any issues. I only have another month of warranty on the car so if the generator is bad, I want the dealership to do is soon. Argh

 

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Resurrecting an old thread  ..... I'm looking at replacing the battery on my 2.0 TDI before winter sets in. I wonder if anyone can answer a couple of queries:-

 

1. Do I really need to maintain a 12v supply to the system whilst the main battery is disconnected?

2. A quick glance under the bonnet revealed that the one securing bolt that I could see was very well hidden on the LHS of the battery - any tips on how to go about getting at it without dropping the bolt and clip into the abyss beneath the engine?

 

Any advice and tips would be appreciated.

 

Thanks in anticipation.

 

Drefaldwyn

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Only bought my Superb couple weeks back and my battery failed last Thursday while doing some updates and seems this is the original battery so 4 years not bad.

Like you not leaving anything to chance as the car so after looking through the forums I bought this: https://www.tayna.co.uk/E44-Varta-Silver-Dynamic-Car-Battery-P7726.html

Was delivered Saturday but the joy of working shifts meant I arrived home Saturday afternoon drenched!

 

So plan is to swap the batts over this afternoon but will have my magnetic flex tool on stand by in case the nut tries to run away.

 

From what I have read it's a straight swap and a drive around to clear any faults. Radio code should not be required either.

I will update later.

 

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You can make enough room to get your hand down there by unclipping a few hoses from the air intake. If you're really stuck you can unhook that section of the intake (this is what Skoda recommend in the repair manual) but I found I didn't need to once the small hoses were out of the way. Use a 250 mm long extension bar on the ratchet to get down to it.

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I bought this same Tayna model just before Christmas last year. I was lucky because I was changing my first battery, which was still going after six years but I didn't trust it to get through the winter. The Tayna is a great choice, at a good price, especially as an extra precaution ahead of the coming winter. 

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All done and took around 15 minutes with no horror stories!

 

Skoda Superb 2.0 TDI 170bp 62 plate.

 

13mm socket for the clamp and a 10mm for the connectors.

 

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Only thing I had to do was reset was the clock. All other functions remained the same, Windows were ok, boot ok and sat nav ok!

Battery a dream and most certainly starts with ease. Brilliant service from Tayna and will order from them again.

 

Only thanks to the many on here for the tips given did this go smoothly.

 

Steve

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Is stop start not standard on the superb?

 

I ask because of stories of exploding batteries on stop start cars - not on skoda but on bmw.    My last car was a 3 series with stop start and as a consequence an AGM battery.    There were several stories on the bmw forums about people having problems - including exploding batteries - after replacing the original glass mat battery with a normal lead acid jobby.

 

Again on the bmw, you have to code the new battery to the car - telling the fancy stop start system and alternator what the capacity of the battery is.

 

People here seem to be just fitting a normal battery, is that because your cars are not stop/start?   I guess with a 4 yr old superb I need to check my battery.

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3 hours ago, superbPerhaps said:

Is stop start not standard on the superb?

 

No - it depends on the model (i.e. A Superb "Greenline")  and/or model  year (e.g. a facelift 2014 Elegance got "Greenline technology" as standard).  A bit like BMW's "Efficient Dynamics" - which Skoda calls Greenline Technology - as it was not on all cars at first - though it became more standard from MY to MY.

 

My car and spec level had stop/start as standard and as a consequence also has a glass mat battery and I would not be replacing with a standard one. I wistfully hope I never have to replace it - the price difference is a bit of a butt clencher.  

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On 9/22/2017 at 20:19, superbPerhaps said:

Is stop start not standard on the superb?

 

I ask because of stories of exploding batteries on stop start cars - not on skoda but on bmw.    My last car was a 3 series with stop start and as a consequence an AGM battery.    There were several stories on the bmw forums about people having problems - including exploding batteries - after replacing the original glass mat battery with a normal lead acid jobby.

 

Again on the bmw, you have to code the new battery to the car - telling the fancy stop start system and alternator what the capacity of the battery is.

 

People here seem to be just fitting a normal battery, is that because your cars are not stop/start?   I guess with a 4 yr old superb I need to check my battery.

 

When I bought my Greenline, it came with a regular lead acid battery, instead of the AGM one it should to come with. It was properly coded, however.

 

AGM batteries are charged differently than regular ones. They're more resilient to rapid charging and discharging. They are also charged differently, usually at slightly higher voltages as well. Thus charge a regular battery as it were an AGM and bang. Always properly code when changing a battery (unless it's the same type of battery with the same capacity). It's likely because of an aggressive charging profile BMW used to make full use of the AGM batteries. They don't usually explode like that.

 

Swapping a regular battery for an AGM one and you'll likely just not use it to its full potential with no hazard without coding.

 

My car and spec level had stop/start as standard and as a consequence also has a glass mat battery and I would not be replacing with a standard one. I wistfully hope I never have to replace it - the price difference is a bit of a butt clencher.  

 

No issues if you code it.

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My 64 plate failed on the weekend, it was the original Bosch battery, Halfords wanted £169 ! I bought one at the motor factor for 60 which was the highest spec of their choice of 3 , I put the new one on, all sorts of lights came up and the alarm came on of course. I drove around for a few miles and they all cleared. once they are 3 or more you just can't rely on them starting

 

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9 hours ago, terrytowelling said:

My 64 plate failed on the weekend, it was the original Bosch battery, Halfords wanted £169 ! I bought one at the motor factor for 60 which was the highest spec of their choice of 3 , I put the new one on, all sorts of lights came up and the alarm came on of course. I drove around for a few miles and they all cleared. once they are 3 or more you just can't rely on them starting

 

 

Highly doubtful the 60 quid battery is AGM. Get your car coded or your battery won't as long as it should. Why? Look at my previous post. Cheap batteries are cheap for a reason.

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