Child seat on rear seat problem

[liqwid78]

Hi,

We have problems to find any place to attach the straps of the child seat on the rear seat. The child seat we have don`t have isofix.

In our previous car there was attachments behind the driver's seat on the floor. Please help!

[Huskoda]

If its a rear facing seat, I have those too. I had to take the plastic covers off the backs of the front passenger seat rails, unbolt them and attach provided brackets to use as front anchor points.

 

You can also loop them around the hinges where the front passenger seat back attaches to the seat base.

Edited 6 December, 2015 by Huskoda

[RickTT]

Replace the kids seat with a ISOFIX one would be my advice.

[Huskoda]

Pictures of normal drivers seat and passenger side with covers removed and anchors installed.

 

Note this isn't a Superb, but it may give you ideas for your own car.

[liqwid78]

RickTT, not worth it because I need to upgrade to a new seat within 6-8 months. But the next chair will be with isofix☺

Huskoda, the problem is that the bolts are further inside. At your picture example the bolts are by the end. How do you managed this?

[glosrich]

Is this a 'top tether' fixing point?

Do you need it on a rear facing seat?

Our Maxi cosi, the lap belt goes over base of the seat and the shoulder belt goes around the back. Or we use the isofix base.

[liqwid78]

Glosrich, rear facing seat

Edited 6 December, 2015 by liqwid78

[Huskoda]

RickTT, not worth it because I need to upgrade to a new seat within 6-8 months. But the next chair will be with isofix☺

Huskoda, the problem is that the bolts are further inside. At your picture example the bolts are by the end. How do you managed this?

That's just how they are in my Subaru. Our Kia is the same, had no problem attaching the anchors to the seat frame bolts. Taking off the plastic covers for the rails took far more effort than it really should though.

 

I figured you might have a similar seat as the rear facing Group 2 seats I have in both cars are Swedish too

 

Is looping the anchor belts around the backrest frame an option? See the start of this video:

Edited 6 December, 2015 by Huskoda

[Selafiel]

I bought schackels from biltema (45 mm length, Art. 25-364) that you can easily fit through the holes in the seat rails.

 

See here for photos:

http://imgur.com/CAlgkzr

http://imgur.com/hWeACf3

Edited 7 December, 2015 by Selafiel

[liqwid78]

Huskoda, that is how I have attached the seat temporarily. The problem is that we can't adjust the driver seat afterwards.

Selafiel, I can't find any information if those are approved for attaching child seats.

Anyway, I have talked with VW spear parts and they have an item to be used with the bolts. I keep you informed.

Thanks for all the useful replays!

Edited 7 December, 2015 by liqwid78

[liqwid78]

How can I add pictures here?

I'm using my mobile. No icons to insert images on the replay screen.

Cheers!

[Maybach]

On 2015-12-7 at 10:50, liqwid78 said:

Anyway, I have talked with VW spear parts and they have an item to be used with the bolts. I keep you informed.

 

Have you finally sorted out this issue? Any reference from original accessories for a safe tethering?

 

I’m about to buy a Britax Multitech II and I’m going to face the same problem. In my particular case, this seat is intended to be used by my daughter from an age of 36 months up to 5-6 years old.

 

Thank you in advance for your thoughts and your personal experience!

[knfruitbat]

Why would you have a child of that age in a rear facing seat? Where are they going to put their feet? Surely this risks hip and upper leg injuries.

Maybe laws/guidelines different in different countries but I am sure there is something in the manual about having your legs in front of you and feet down. don't sit sideways or cramped/rolled up.

[Maybach]

48 minutes ago, knfruitbat said:

Why would you have a child of that age in a rear facing seat? Where are they going to put their feet? Surely this risks hip and upper leg injuries.

Maybe laws/guidelines different in different countries but I am sure there is something in the manual about having your legs in front of you and feet down. don't sit sideways or cramped/rolled up.

 

I’m going to have her in a rear facing seat until she gets a weight of 25 kg (5-6 years) because it has been scientifically demonstrated that, for children’s neck, it is safer than any other seating position in case of frontal impact, the most common kind of accident on a car.

 

You can find information about this topic on the following links:

 

http://csftl.org/why-rear-facing-the-science-junkies-guide/

 

http://www.rearfacing.co.uk/facts.php

 

http://www.thecarcrashdetective.com/2017/03/a-guide-to-swedish-child-car-seat-safety-for-americans.html/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 26 June, 2017 by Maybach

[alfk]

I have an Axkid Minikid on the way which I believe has to be tethered like the seats already mentioned. The guy in the shop said it should be no problem tethering. What they say to do is put the passenger seat as far back as you need leaving enough room to loop the tethers under the rails. The idea is then that you don't move the passenger seat again after that so as not to damage the tethers. I guess I'll find out when it arrives?

[Maybach]

2 hours ago, alfk said:

I have an Axkid Minikid on the way which I believe has to be tethered like the seats already mentioned. The guy in the shop said it should be no problem tethering. What they say to do is put the passenger seat as far back as you need leaving enough room to loop the tethers under the rails. The idea is then that you don't move the passenger seat again after that so as not to damage the tethers. I guess I'll find out when it arrives?

 

Axkid Minikid is another excellent option for extending rear facing.

 

I have already considered the same approach that you have mentioned but, at least in the Octavia, the gap under the rails only have a few milimeters and I'm not sure if its room enough for going through with the tether. Anyway, a visit to the dealer, in order to unscrew rail bolts and setting the tethers could be the definitive solution for this issue.

 

Hope you can get a smart and safe solution!

 

 

 

 

[knfruitbat]

12 hours ago, Maybach said:

 

I’m going to have her in a rear facing seat until she gets a weight of 25 kg (5-6 years) because it has been scientifically demonstrated that, for children’s neck, it is safer than any other seating position in case of frontal impact, the most common kind of accident on a car.

 

You can find information about this topic on the following links:

 

http://csftl.org/why-rear-facing-the-science-junkies-guide/

 

http://www.rearfacing.co.uk/facts.php

 

http://www.thecarcrashdetective.com/2017/03/a-guide-to-swedish-child-car-seat-safety-for-americans.html/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I understand the ideal rear facing scenario, hell we would all be rear facing if it was practical.

As your attached articles suggests different markets are different in each country, UK these seats weren't marketed to a size that would suitable for use and my kids have outgrown the top end now, hence my original comment about different guidelines in different countries, live and learn.

Frontal impact is most common, but the same speed side impact is much more dangerous, particularly if the child doesn't have their head properly within the side pads and regularly adjusted. Kids aren't dolls and mine would certainly have been trying to look around to the front to speak to the front occupants or see what is going on, and telling them to get back into their seat properly is when the driver is distracted and most likely to have an accident. Suppose what ever seat you have just make sure it is the correctly adjusted for your real height and weight child. I have seen the results of too many accidents where kids aren't even strapped in properly or even have the correct seat.

Another safety feature I hope none of us ever have to use.

[FelisBengalensis]

The UK Market doesn't offer the better seats because no one here buys them.  We sourced ours from Sweden via the web - though now you can get a better range in the UK but from more specialist suppliers (I.e. Not Mothercare).

 

We were told that there is a common UK urban myth that rear facing seats cause motion sickness.  It's been shown to be a myth and that generally (there will be exceptions) a child who is sensitive to motion will be sick regardless of the type of seat or direction of travel.  But with the myth holding sway, UK Buyers go for forward facing.

 

We kept ours rear facing until he hit the height/weight limit for the iSize system and he is now forward facing.  He was never sick in the car despite thousands of miles facing in either direction.

[silver1011]

A rear facing seat for kids up to 5 or 6 years old!?

 

I'm all for safety but how far do you take it? When travelling as a family it would feel very strange to me to have the kids facing in the opposite direction.

[muddyboots]

I fully understand the benefits of rear-facing seats, we kept ours rear facing for a long as possible, but no way could they have still fitted in one at 5-6 years old (and my son is very small for his age too).

 

13 hours ago, FelisBengalensis said:

The UK Market doesn't offer the better seats because no one here buys them.  We sourced ours from Sweden via the web - though now you can get a better range in the UK but from more specialist suppliers (I.e. Not Mothercare).

Yeah I remember it being a challenge finding info & suppliers. That was 7-8 years ago, maybe (hopefully) they are getting more common in UK though. Think we ended up with a BeSafe Izi Combi.

 

Having been in a nasty crash myself (front impact, side impact & rollover) and felt the level of forces exerted on my body, the idea of my kids ever having to go through similar scares me a lot, so they're having as much protection as they can while they still fit, currently in high-backed boosters at age of 7 & 8. Uses the car seatbelt, but gives them extra side impact protection to body and head, and holds the seatbelt in just the right place over the shoulder.

 

Incidentally - although I specified Isofix fittings on the front passenger seat, I can't fit the high-backed booster there, as the headrest gets in the way and is non-removable :(