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Yes saw the plunge pricing at public chargers. Clearly lots of solar and wind at the moment. In my quiet cul-de-sac most houses have EVs and many cases have roof solar that I can see, plus some have batteries talking to the home owners.

The new era has begun ! At 1130, BST, my Octopus charge rate dropped to minus 0.86 p per KWh. Later today, 1330 to 1500 it will be minus 1.3P per KWh. Currently got the 5 and the Scenic on wall-box chargers so drawing about 11 KWs which will be about a pound paid back to me for the 70 KWh I put in to the cars, portable home batteries and heating the water for bath time ! So not free but actually paid for taking electricity in these negative and virtual zero cost slots. Octopus did the switch from GO tariff to Agile in an hour or so. See how it plays out, we seem to be in an unusual spell of both very sunny and windy weather but we are still couple of months away from summer solstice and then 2 months hopefully of plenty more of the same until the darker days of October to February are upon us but with the amount and size of wind farms being connected of the east coast hopefully lots more times when UK has too much electricity and suppliers will give it away for nothing or pay me to take it. Next puzzle is what extra battery to get to hold the cheap / free lecky and how to put from batteries to car although the 5 is effectively a home battery on wheels with its V2l capability ?

What / which bubble ? Octopus, and the other energy suppliers, want to make some, Octopus, or lots as in others, profit and even dual and tri-rate tariffs may not do that if users charge at peak cost times. Hence Agile and Tracker is the direction way Octopus users are being encouraged. If one is adaptable one can have ones electricity almost for free, bar standing charge, if one is adaptable to charge the EVs, batteries when the electricity generation prices falls to near zero or below zero. Half hourly prices are released by Octopus for the next day at around 5 pm and as prices go negative today at 1130 I will pop out before lunch abd plug in a couple of the EVs and leave them plugged in, or programmed ro accept charge, might be PM nap time, to shut off at 1600 when price returns to a positive value. Just a case of moving with the times !

Should get a parking ticket IMO.

A shocking email from Octopus a couple of hours ago. Night time rate ie when the EVs get charged up, was to rise to even more than it was before the government's 3.51 p per kwh was shaved off all tariffs on April 1st. Night time rate up to 8.6 p per KWh and Day time up to almost 30p per KWh. Stuff that. So only 30 days of really cheap night time charging before it all goes. Of course it is the Middle East war hiking gas prices that has done it. So got on to Octopus website and switched over to Octopus Agile with Dynamic pricing which follows the live cost of lecky. From 1130 to 1600 later today I am to be paid for charging two of my EVs. Now that is demand and supply market conditions in action ! This is what we want !

The State of Charge car display is not the actual state of charge of the battery but a level that the car manufacturer wants to tell you. True levels can be seen in Apps tapping in to the OBD port, Carscanner being a notable one. The car's Battery Management System is a better indicator than car's SoC % i reckon. So with my Scenic not even mentioning reduced performance to 11 miles past 0% SoC being shown is a better indicator and such messages are there to ensure the car is not damaged and results jn warranty claims. I might get my own battery report on the 5 and Scenic just before potential hand back and that will influence my decesion whether to keep either of the cars. I don't expect the rare occasional charging to 85,90,95 ir 100 % if running it down to 15,10,5 or 0% to have hurt the battery pack. More important not to leave the battery very highly charged or very low for days on end rather than dipping down or charging up high. Occasional full charge needed to carry out battery cell balancing operation.

Not in the Midlands area, I always gave a look who has stopped by the side of the road and it is virtually never an EV and therefore neatly always an ICE vehicle. I am looking at when the new Royal Enfield Flying Flea EV bike is coming to the UK and I can imagine those running out of juice.

Why crap if you know you can make that extra ten or twenty miles past 0% in a Renault, Nissan or TESLA and said yourself a whole heap of time and cost and get home earlier ?? As I said I would and could not do it in our Mini Cooper and don't think it would allow it but some marques do and hence another reason I am a Renault, Nissan, Dacia fan. Will look at the Mitsubishi Eclipse when arrives which seems to be from the Ariya / Scenic parts bin but presumably be 4 wheel drive and have yge same sub 0% ghat other Alliance cars do. It's there, use it to save money and time !

Indeed, just getting use to it as Scenic is first car I have had with it. Thought I would do a trip / power measure reset on the R5 journey with low battery and the energy consumption report leapt up to 9 miles per KWh. Thought that was on the high side of what was really possible and it did settle down to about 6.5 which I was still pleased with. Maybe there should ve consistency with battery reserve size. ICE cars sem to have about 1.5 gallons ie 7 litres which should take one about 60 miles. EV may or may not go a mile, ten, thirty miles beyond zero SoC and thank Byorn Nyland for doing hundred or probably thousands of hours of testing to show us EV users what to expect.

Just okd enough to remember the introduction of the 55 mph speed limit in the US in the 70s to preserve ftek stocks. Amazing that vehicles generally fave not improved that much that a new 55 mph limit is being discussed for this oil crisis. Some get it wrong that aero drag is a square ratio of drag to speed when it is in fact a cube ratio. Tyre hysterysis / drag is a square ratio. But travelling at 55 makes as much as a 20% to as much as 50% difference in some vehicles. Plus the aero assistance of a bit of drafting but just don't like to get too close, something like 20 -25m I think hs close enough.

Indeed. Pleasantly surprised how many miles than caf predicts when one goes in to ultra efficient mode. Was in South Wales in the R5, granddaughter loves the iridescent yellow 5 but literally had no apparent margin, thought about doing the A road route home but wanted to see how my 40 kwh R5 performed getting down to 0% SoC. First few miles did not look good but a few miles sat cruising behind a truck doing 55 mph and soon there was a buffer restored. Upped the speed to the National Limit but still could not get the down to 0% SoC on that journey. If have found range anxiety not an issue in 5 years except on one journey back from Felixstowe to Worcester. Even then the Scenic did 11 mikes past 0% SoC bring shown before limited performance warning came up. Mini Cooper might be different as 0% might mean 0% ! Mini and R5 boot is tiny but Scenic is 550 litre. Good to see the Polo e, Raval and Epiq have really good boots abd rear seat space. Think they will be good sellers.

For those planning to live in their current house for many years to come they are choosing the path to go big on solar on the roof and batteries. I am planning to move in a year or so therefore want all my solar generation and batteries portable so I can take them with me. Boils down to what deal and personal finances on the monthly payments and also taking into consideration energy running cost, insurance and servicing. Monthly payment is usually the biggy and stands out as the annoying one. Renault 5 deal felt good as it was on a 0% finance deal and the option to buy I think it going to be attractive at the end of the PCP. Energy running costs are now negligible and I find servicing about half to a third of the cost of my previous ICE cars and my insurance is low and gone down again this year. My Scenic monthly is quite high and I am considering what to do with that in terms of partly paying off the PCP or trying to trade it in if I can get a good price now EVs are in greater demand with the ongoing fuel crisis for ICE cars. I could get a new Scenic for about £100 a month less than I am paying due to Renault lowering their prices and the fact the Scenic, like the 5, gets the bigger £3,750 discount, battery packs now being built in Poland or France, on new buys which will effect second hand residuals of course. My bank, Lloyds, sent me an email saying they could see I was paying Renault finance each month and could offer me a cheap load but it was only 5.7% when Renault did me 4.9% so not tempting. So EV running costs continue to go down and if one does go down either of the two routes to generate and store one's own electricity and use that then it is an option to further insulate one's self from price hikes in energy and fuel going down the track. I choose to continue to develop my "portable" battery storage and portable solar arrays. Could even take portable batteries in the car as Bjorn Nyland does when he does his zero miles test ie run it until completely out of juice, or actually BMS says no more. He is using a pair of 2 KWh Ecoflow units but this area is improving all the time and I think portable units with 3 KWh + output and 4 KWh storage are coming out so carry 8 KWh will become easy. Looking like Q3 energy prices wont be too bad which is a relief and keeps the EV running costs way down, as Elvis would say.

I think there are some that are still on a single rate tariff. If you worked night suppose you would have a problem. We have 3 EVs for a 2 person household and with GO the two smaller batteried EVs can get a full charge, almost, during the 5 hours of cheap charging but my Scenic would take almost 2 nights to charge from empty to full. Just chatting to someone down my avenue and he gad the 87 / 92 kwh Scenic so he would take two and a half nights to fully charge. Think I would try and get 3 phase if I had a really large batteried car or another solution, batteries, full roof solar or the like.

Absolutely. Biggest one for me is me and other EV owners buying the super cheap electricity to charge our cars ie Night time when electricity is so cheap as because others don't or can't buy it at this time. Phrased by some that we are doing something underhand. It is simply buying whrn it is commercially cheap and using it when we need it ie that next day time or in the following days. This is fired back at us as if we are have a whole bunch of silver spoons ! The one distinguishing factor i find with EV owners is that gave thought through the matter of transportation choices !

Everybody had some biased of course. I have listened to thd first couple of minutes of several of his videos before evaluating they are tosh. I don't know how the paying for viewed YouTube videos are but I want to avoid supporting such videos. There is a grain of truth in them. A registration is not necessarily a sale. But the SMMT data, Autotrader, the Car Dealership magazine and other reputable outlets tell the story of EV growth. Residuals can appear shocking but then this is not really due to undiserability but mostly down to cheaper battery packs and increased grants meaning new prices are cheaper and this depresses second hand prices. Early indications that second hand EVs are recently in higher demand as it becomes clearer EVs can be run in terms of fuel at about a tenth the cost of ICE vehicle. If you can summarise and point out any good points he makes but i will not full watch any his video which appear drivel to me.

I would not give Crapton the time of day. Talk about skewed bias. As you can see the report is the Car Dealer magazine and Autotrader and the other is a pea brain Youtube click baiter...

Who would have thought that putting a hot ICE powerplant next to high voltage electrical system was an increased risk. Think we have a big future problems with hybrids, particularly PHEVs.

Good to see EVs getting cheaper and cheaper. Renault have just achieved another of their cars getting the full grant of £3750 due to the battery pack being built in Poland rather than LG Chem (S. Korea). Europe competing with China !! European Car of the Year 2024 followed by R5 being European CoTY 2025 ! The Renault Scenic E-Tech is now available for £33,245, as a result of achieving eligibility for the Government’s Electric Car Grant. It's the third Renault model to qualify for the upper-rate grant, which provides a £3,750 discount off a new electric vehicle (EV). With the grant applied, the Scenic E-Tech becomes one of the cheapest models in its class, almost undercutting the £33,065 Omoda 5 Electric. The Electric Car Grant is available to electric cars adhering to a strict minimum criteria covering emissions, range, sustainability and warranty support. Its criteria require a brand to have Science Based Targets initiative (SBTi) verification, which sets greenhouse gas emissions reductions targets in line with what is needed to keep global heating below damaging levels and reach net zero by 2050 at latest. To qualify, electric cars must have a recommended retail price (RRP) of £37,000 or less, a minimum battery range of 100 miles (160km), a three-year or 60,000 mile warranty, and be powered by a battery with an eight-year or 100,000-mile warranty. The ‘greenest’ vehicles in band one receive a grant of £3,750, with band two vehicles receiving £1,500. View the full list of eligible vehicles, here. Renault's Scenic features a 220PS electric motor and an 87kWh battery pack for a range of up to 381 miles

New electric cars undercut petrol vehicles on price for first time, says AutotraderAutotrader data reveals pricing landmark in new car market Average price of a new electric car is now £785 cheaper than a petrol vehicle New EVs are now cheaper on average than petrol models for the very first time. That is according to fresh data from Autotrader, which has found that electric vehicles are now undercutting their fossil fuelled equivalents on price thanks to government grants and sustained manufacturer discounting. The firm has found that so far this month, the average price of a new EV on its platforms has been £42,620 – £785 cheaper than the £43,405 a petrol car typically costs. Experts say that the change has been heavily influenced by manufacturers offering money off, with the average discount standing at 11.7% in April, having peaked at 12.8% in March, following new plate day. Car Dealer MagazineNew electric cars undercut petrol vehicles on price for f...New EVs are now cheaper on average than petrol models for the very first time. That is according to fresh data from Autotrader, which has found that

Only one which is the fridge-freezer and could quite easily set the fridge freezer to work off the Ecoplay device which, as they all are, solar energy converters, with battery with inverter to AC. Good reason to move fridge plug to wall socket in the evening and that in to the Ecoplay in the morning is there are considerable losses, 10-20% I would guess, so more efficient to move the plug in the evening and back again in the morning, takes 2 seconds. The office electricals, now a desktop PC as I had to give my work laptops back last month, that Solar energy convertor, battery, invertor device just takes the solar energy from my second 2 axis solar tracking array so no 3 pin plug transfer, shove the solar barrel connector in and press 2 little buttons to swich on the AC and the DC outputs, again 2 seconds, and that run all the devices in the office, PC, screen, printer, desk lights and when needed plug phone in to USB C. No hassle at all. Just watch the whole house, those little devices, router, TV boxes, Sky, BT/EE, land line phone charger running on 40W or so. Boiling kettle etc is done on main electricity and typical is a couple of KWh so 60p or so. Night time different story with EVs being charged up and a draw of about 50 Kwh for about £3 for 200 miles in the EVs. Average electricity cost, currently, ie since April 1st massive price drop, about 7.5 p per KWh and no hassle to achieve this !

Reminds me of Mr Ketshaws song. I came from a poor family, lucky enough to get a scholarship to a good school which was fee paying for many attendees. Nothing i have done has been easy and have worked long hours under many difficult scenarios to pay a mortgage and get a modern safe car to transport the family and myself around. Always tried to look at problems with an analytical mindset, sometimes get it wrong but also get it right sometimes too. We live in an age where there has never been so much freely available information. We still have schools in the uk where the fees are more than the average persons wages and that is being addressed but through global trade its like Solar panels, batteries with solar input and decent invertors are incredibly cheap considering they are made and shipped half way round the world. I have found all examples I have bought very well made, they shut off when fully charged, no burning smell, nothing. A few fires happen but perhaps where the operator plugged in the wrong charger ie 36 or 48v charger into a 24v battery pack or left it leaned against a radiator. Relatively few examples like EVs being more than ten times less likely to catch fire than ICE, lost in the clich bait ignorance of YouTube scum. I embrace the new world tech, glad I gave up my ICE cars and fuel card and charge at home from renewable and low carbon nuclear energy and with the metaphor that every cloud has a silver lining this Middle Eastern war, no 3, will hasten the adoption of EVs and help reduce carbon and other pollutants going into the air we all breath.

You not seen all the stuff on "Balcony" solar ? As well as people living in high rises using plug in batteries and solar panels, either rigid or the flexi ones, i have a couple of those too which are quite good, use them anywhere. My cheapest battery, small solar panel with a couple fo LED lights was £14 delivered by Amazon. There seems to be a big lack of inventiveness on this island which is odd as we were suppose to be exactly that, one of the most inventive peoples in the world. I not spent much at all, relative to this group you think as the privileged few. No solar on roof, no expensive massive batteries like TESLA Power-walls sat in the garage. Those such installations the install costs exceed the cost of the actual goods themselves. Batteries, solar items can be bought quite cheaply not too difficult to setup and start paying for themselves right away and the pay back time was reckoned to be less than 3 years, probably going to be more like 2 years when the more expensive energy hits in the second half of this year. Solar and batteries are not a major investment but they are a major cost saver. Got one mid sized solar generator sat next to the fridge freezer, cost about £300 but saves about a pound a day as it runs the fridge freezer during the expensive day time electricity period. Linked up to a £30 solar panel via the cat flap to supplement the super night day electricity. I hear there are many off street charging parking been installed over the place. My company's Source London install bunches of them in London a few years ago and this is being rolled out in many cities. Worcestershire /Worcester is useless but then we have had Con and now Reform run councils so not their priority it seemed /seems and now the UK is paying for the negligence to grow UK energy independence before the current energy crisis. A lack of creative thinking and self reliance on the part of British society. Good news is that rumours are circulating that the September Excide duty rise by a couple of pence is looking like it will be postponed by a few months. Expect the Treasury mileage rates will go up in 6 weeks time to reflect the higher costs. Get creative !

The growth in the UK Battery Energy storage system is exponential and now very significant in the overall real time supply. Oddly I see this as maybe a threat to the cheap electricity ie Night Time period that EVs and households that also use night time lecky as clearly increasingly these ever increasing BESS commercial sites will such up the cheap night time lecky to sell it back to the GRID during the day time and us domestic buyers may well lose out. Even more important households than can make their own lecky via solar panels and store via their own batteries which of course nearly every household can do ! https://www.energyvoice.com/renewables-energy-transition/storage/595248/batter-energy-storage-systems-bess-uk/ Edinburgh-headquartered Fidra Energy is developing a 1,400 MW/3,100 MWh battery energy storage system (BESS). International investors have chipped in nearly £1bn to build Thorpe Marsh, which is set to become Europe’s largest BESS once complete in 2027. Across the UK, former coal power stations are undergoing similar transformations, with developers keen to make use of existing high-capacity grid connections and transmission infrastructure. In Wales, Ampeak Energy is transforming the Uskmouth power station site with a series of major BESS projects. Meanwhile in Scotland, Alcemi is nearing completion on its 500 MW Coalburn 1 BESS on the site of a former open-cast coal mine, while Apatura is planning a 650 MW BESS and data centre on the site of a former steelworks near Motherwell. A decade ago, the UK battery storage industry barely existed as a commercial proposition. Today, it is one of the fastest-growing clean energy sectors in the country, attracting billions of pounds of investment, and an increasingly critical piece of national infrastructure. Since 2020, the UK’s operational battery storage capacity has increased by more than 500%, rising from around 1,100 MW to nearly 7 GW by 2025. The grid-scale battery storage market grew 45% by operational capacity in 2025, with 4 GWh coming online during the year.

England is being pumped in to the world's largest wind farms ie those in the North Sea which has the perfect blend od attributes ie right latitude and right depth of water. Along with Wales the English coast line has the potential for huge amounts of tidal ie Bristol Channel and Mersey estuaries. Probably has been getting the private investors to stump up. Like with night time energy at 6 or 7 p per kwh who is going to put up billions unless there is guaranteed pricing per KWH and for several GWh per day ? In England we will have another two big nuclear reactors plants ie Hinkley Point C and Sizewell C. Scotland will probably be an importer when wind not blowing etc. Overlay ever increasing home production during the day time for the home use, use in one's EVs and exporting back into the Grid it is clear to see even more times electricity has a minus cost as it did for Octopus Agile users over the weekend.

The UK needs more hydrostorage, more tidal ans more nuclear, these small modular reactors seem to be the flavour. Millions of Brits will expand their home batteries to take advantage of daily cheap electricity for their home use and some, perhaps many, will have such systems that they provide what they need for their home and their EVs and the UK Grud is a place they can dump their excess electricity. Australia, albeit a sunnier place, has been pushing through mass adoption of solar and home batteries, 100k homes in 17 weeks. We hear Octopus saying they are very busy with installs which is not surprising considering fuel cost and the impending Q3 price cap which Cornwall insight are reckoning will be £1900 pa pro rata and perhaps even more in Q4 plus the higher energy uses of course. Grid needs upgrading with these new T pylons and other tech. Just hope the massive amounts collected from some of us in the non London / SE regions is well spent !