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Bjorn has been testing a rather nice lime green one, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnBgZj3ti00

You appear to be able to configure these online now. Think I'd rather have something a bit cheaper 😂

Totally, we're renting a Kodiaq, 4 of us going to the French Alps in July in it. And because it's a hire car, the other 2 people are duty bound to contribute which wouldn't be the case if it was 'my' car 😇 There's a lot to be said for having a cheap runabout now I don't need one for work, obviously this is different for you lot on BIK / company car deals and whatnot.

We do. I for one ruled out the Enyaq because of the skeuomorphic grill. But since then I've gone cold of the idea of a 'nice' car anyway, I now own a runaround and rent a car for long journeys (like in July this year).

Of course, definitely 100% agree. My original post was clumsy, hopefully people now realise I'm talking about discretionary spending. Clearly if you get to benefit from the VERY generous BIK for UK company car users, it's a no brainer.

I think there was some confusion generated by my post. I'm not saying that you will save £10K by buying a Tesla, I'm suggesting that some buyers would attach a value to something like a dedicated (to the brand) charging network that is rarely offline, reliable, fast and almost always has space for another Tesla to park up and charge.

The charging network, if you could put a value on it, would be worth £10K. Things will change eventually, but right now the UK charging infra is in its infancy - unless you have a Tesla.

Couldn't have said it better myself. I'm sure the overwhelming majority on here don't need to hear my old man mutterings, though, so I'll shut up now 🤣👍

Fair enough, not forgetting that the 53k on that car is more like 80k if you include the tax you pay before you get your cash to buy the car, that 80K from your salary could have been put into your pension tax free. But yeah, I know, I sound like a right miserable old sod 😂 I only ever ran Skodas for a very long time because I had an eye on my future and didn't want to work forever (I retired at 54). I know you can extrapolate my argument to every single thing you buy, but your example of the house kind of proves my point, that is generally an appreciating asset. Of course everyone should do what they want with their money, just pointing out that one day, some might regret their choices when they realise they have to (rather than want to) work until they're 80.

I get the lure of nice cars, I really do, been there myself. But imagine instead of putting 53k into one of these, you bought something reliable for say 13k and put the 40k to work into moderate risk investments. Probably enough to bring forward retirement by a significant amount. There must be so many people keeping themselves on the hamster wheel forever just to satisfy that urge to have a nice car. If you can EASILY afford it now, why not, I'm talking about people who are trying to 'keep up with the jones'.

Fifty Seven Thousand Pounds. LOL

I can't get over that skeumorphic grill. Such a shame imo.

Nah the tech is already advanced enough for my use case to go full EV with no looking back, no going to garages also, which I particularly dislike for some reason. Most of my charging will be at home.

Though the Enyaq could undoubtedly make the trip, there's still the question of not just scarcity, but reliability. Ionity is going through a really bad reliability patch just now, there's lots of experiences relayed on speakev.com Imagine driving 900 miles but halfway through the ionity station you were relying on is offline. For UK use, you definitely don't need a Tesla, any car with 200 mile range and 100kw charging is enough, even if you have to settle for 50kw when ionity throws a fit.

Yeah, I got that, but I don't know the reason. I tend to ignore people who think they know better than me about what suits my needs 🤷‍♂️ Anyway, not fully decided on Tesla yet, Polestar is also interesting as is the Enyaq. Hopefully retiring in the not too distant future and we'll likely be driving in Europe twice a year, the Tesla charging network is hard not to ignore for that reason. All things being equal in terms of charging networks, I wouldn't choose the Tesla.

Incoherent. Try again.

Been around the Internet long enough to recognise a leading question. but anyway, right now Golf R Estate, next car Tesla model 3. But most of my local miles by bicycle or foot.

I see this often on EV threads, there's always someone who will say For most of us, EVs will be the future, it will be interesting to see the depreciation of ICE cars over the next few years, I wouldn't touch one with a bargepole. I quite like the idea of taking regular breaks and use the time charging to properly rest. We drive to the French Alps every July (usually) and 3 hours of driving with 20 to 30 minutes of rest is what we would do anyway.