PatOctavia1

No bother Mike, your a singer by that name?! Its not so much superior knowledge, rather bitter experience. Been working on 4 different Oct1's this last couple of years and was driving the SDi since 2015. Just one of those daft things goes thru me head, is this a crossover - bit like the last couple of months of MK1 Avenger production in 1976 they all had the sexy twin round headlamps - anyhow! as far as I know after 10/05 they were all PDi 100 AXR. So there was about a year or 18 months after the MK2 hit the streets that the MK1 still had the rock solid ALH. I guess after the MK2 started the TDi 110 ceased, there was a PDi option since 1998, just would have been the more expensive models. Was a PDi 130 6 speed on the MK1's as well. Suppose plenty of post MK2 MK1's were sold privatly as well. The black one in the picture, you see its nose on the left, its late '08 and is an AXR. A friend bought it. This guy drives like a teenager and is thru the ditch more often that a badger. Other cars he had, Mondeo, Avensis and so-on cost hin 500 after ditching them, the Octavia cost a scratch and dents! So he loves them old Skodas. Got him 2 more, an '05 TDi 90 which i put a radiator into for him and fixed the back brakes. Wheel cylinder, handbrake cable and set of shoes. The black one was another of his impulse buys. Looked at it for him, listed needing a steering rack. Needs also a DMF. Only 135k on it and there is always something strange about a scrapyard yoke, its seatbelts were badly chafed at the buckle. Frustratesd auld clergeyman was driving it. Indicator stalk bits poked out of it and the RHS of the steering wheel scrunched down to the steel. As if a witch was driving it. Anyhow took a set of seat belts off another red '05 TDi I was stripping. Loos like a clergyman that '08 and has a GB reg, last three letters being GOJ - really! Seatbelts and column switches were a crown of thorns alright! Leads to another God joke. Rock solid ALH, Allah! Gods own Engine! Ahh long meandering story short. Another friend who runs a piece of crap Audi A6 3.0 TDi Quattro - real nice but too much to run - is looking for a scout. Told him a MK1 with kilen springs on new gas struts is as good as a scout, anyone in NI who is looking rid of a MK1, let me know - don't be greedy! But yeh, as a mechanic buddie says, all those s****y BMWs or Benz or Audi - up on the ramp all a piece of scrap. Engines with jumping timing chains - scrap. 250 greyhounds for a wishbone - scrap. 800 to replace a clutch/DMF - scrap. Euro VI, 2x egr valves, cat and then DPF + electronics that would bamboozle NASA - SCRAP SCRAP SCRAP. /..run away, just as fast as you can..fly away..I should have turned around and ran../ That line in a song about sums up what happens when the summons light comes on on a 2012- car. SCRAP. POISON TORTURE. Save an Oct1, petrol or Diesel. Right kappy motoring I've rambled on enough.

Aye is there is a decent bodied 110 Octavia 1 about I'd be interested. Fire a new clutch plate, shocks, springs and wheel bearings onto them and you got 100,000 miles of only changing the oil and brake linings. Car finance, go to h..... And yes, you might have guessed, I do own a classic car, a 1975 Hillman Avenger. They were the best of a bad lot of their time too. Right, enough musing, grass needs cut.

Yeh I reckon so, AXR from 10/05 on. You can tell an Octavia 1 that was made after the MK2 began production by the badging. When the Oct1 was the only one in town (pre-04) there was the engine and trim badge on the boot and 'classic' or 'elegance' badges on the wings. The metal on my old 03 SDi was a bit better I reckon although 05 06 07-09 MK1 are still a solid well rustproofed body. Seems they were at their very best 01-04. PDi is a good engine but I'd say the best out of the whole lot was the TDi 110 (the red 'I') . Now is the last chance to nab a half decent 1U2 before they all dissappear. Salute to Skoda. The 1U2 ended all the jokes. A pride car, I have never seen a car as well built as the 1U2. Take the bung off the outrigger and a semi-set type of sickaflex cones out - a bentley wouldn't be that thoroughly rustproofed. Also compared to the Golf 4 the Skoda has a stronger body, as I heard a Taxi driver who was never off the road in the 2000's say ''ye always walk away from an Octavia'' A Golf driver will require an ambulance. That RSJ behind the front bumper and 2 foot of crumple before the engine block, then a substantial bulkhead and pillars. You'd need to go toe-to-toe with a Volvo before coming out 2nd best. One thing of note about the old communist 'joke' rear engined 1940's tech pre-VW Skodas, did you ever see a rusty one? MK4 Golfs and Boras were a well built strong engined cars. They rust. The Octavia doesn't. Bicycle pump with waste oil mixed with old gear oil. Take off the sill bungs and fill it. Take the rear bumper off and kurust the seams then the oil mix. Another 10 years. Easy. One last land mine to dodge is the rear shocks. The top mounts bolts sieze. Change them before the shock rusts thru and do not attept to remove without heat and good soaking with WD40. Its better a rear suspension is a simpe beam axle because good shocks do all the work for you instead of too many links. Another thing, take a look at the rear underside of a MK5 Golf/Jetta - legs rotten. Then look at the same section of an Octavia 2, still solid. Skoda make a way better car than VW. Czech tanks. I work abroad often enough. Was in Bulgaria and Romania in Feb-March. Roads there full of 1990's yokes taken from Germany, NL or France. Every single Oct1 you see is the straightest looking yoke on the road. I vaguely remember a bar stool car conversation from about 2001 when the MK4 Golf was King. ''Octavia? But sure the Skoda steel can't be right on them'' Ha ha hahahaha, no idiot, the VW steel was not right! The Skoda steel and rustproofing would last 30 years! Poor mans Bora. Pity they don't have a VW badge - heard a story of a guy who wanted to put a VW badge on the nose of an Octavia! Oh aye? Ye want the rust that goes with it? The Oct1 should not be scrapped. There never will be a car as well built, tough, long lasting with excellent engines made ever again. Takes 17,000 tons of carbon to make a new car. Should be a green grant available to renew these things. Oh and one last thing about ''they are the same as a Golf 4'' The rear axle and brakes are Caddy, not golf. The brake shoes are the van spec' and did you ever hear of rear axle deformation on the Octavia? I got a couple of 1990s UniPart shoes for nothing from eBay. harder old grey lining. Rear brake imbalance was 1%. One %. Skoda made a joke out of VW. Fair play to them. If ye have the space, save a Skoda. If you don't in a few years time you gonna regret it as it will take a grand to get any car thru the test. Skoda Abu!

Thank you Mike. All of the late '05 onwards MK1 I've seen have the PD engine but you are probably right. I see 'POLAND' cast on the block so its likely they sent the tooling for the older external pump engines eastward about 2004. Whats interesting to me is as time and technology progressed the continued 1U2 Octavia became a late 1990s bubble as everything else got a lot more complex. As I said this Octavia was re-sprayed at some point. Irregular welding on the n/s inner guard and the wee bracket that locates the wing front is galvanised and un-sprayed, suggests it was hit on the n/s corner. Chassis legs are fine and the car is not 'crabbing' in any way. Pot luck, its a shiny old bus. Wasnt that much elbow grease required, just Turtle Wax Radiant Red. I reckon the deformed n/s hub (bearing carrier/knuckle) was something overlooked when it was repaired. Nothing wrong with the AXR PD engines, just they tend to need a DMF and can be a bit on the thirsty side. Here was a bit of lunacy, thats the last time I replace a clutch (plate) on the beaten earth! Oh that was a whole load of fun on a day without work.

Hiya all, I put 112k miles on an '03 SDi and was impressed with the old Octavias reliability and ruggedness. Always wished the SDi was a TDi 90 instead. Wish was granted last September when I came accross this '05 TDi 90 that was irratating the garage owner as his son had it laying in his yard for too long. Offered 200 quid for it on condition I got the tax book before money was exchanged. It was heading for the crusher. What swung it for me was when I seen uncracked factory windshield. Got it for 200 and drove it home with no brakes! Of course I had a friend in another car as an escort, am not that bad. Personally I don't give a hoot about flashy cars and finance is 'agin me religion, car finance vs beer, obvious winner. So I've been working on this ALH engined Octavia and got her through the test in May. Sold the trusty old SDi, hope its never scrapped and ends up a farmard donkey. Anyhow I believe this yoke may be one of the last ALH engines Octavias. Registered Sept '05 and I see on parts listings that October '05 on they had the PDi engine. Its classic spec but has electric windows and that pain in the neck rem central locking with deadlocks. Colour coded handles and mirrors. So is this a crossover I wonder? I know a couple of guys that has '05 TDi Octavias and they are per the old 03 SDi, manual windows and so-on. Anyhow this car has been sprayed and none the worse for it. Waxed it and the gleam of it is like a 3 year old car. Having lots of fun codding young fellas, ''aye this is the latest shape Skoda'' you'd be suprized how many bite! 🙂 The Octavia 1U2 is probabbly the most reliable and long lasting car ever built or ever will be built. The MK2 is a good car, just not as tough as the 1. So I was always harping on when the subject of cars and thier expense came up, you'd be better puttong money into something golden era (1998 technology and build) rather than something 10-15 years younger that will only cost a lot more to maintain. I just don't like 2010s cars, pointy dashboards, too much electronics, weak engines, they are just annoying. Also the steel on VW group yokes has not been right since end of MK4 Golf era. Octavia 1 vs MK4 Golf. Take a look at the metal behing their respective bumpers. Octavia is the daddy. Oh and pre-PD engines are flexi-fuel 😉 So got it into a friends yard, a field, and 'tore into her' nose off gear box and manifolds off, wings off and back brakes completely removed, rotten and banjaxed backplates. Re-lined the clutch plate, 176k miles a wise move before it disintegrated and then takes the DMF with it. DMF was fine - well wasnt getting one anyhow! Yes of course I wire-wooled the pressure and flywheel surfaces. New driveshafts - cheap J&R as fine so long as you put more grease into them. Gas struts, new front springs. 55 notes for a new cat/downpipe - handy when a much cheaper E2 cat will fit and saves bother welding, then welding again. o/s wishbone, set of front wheel bearings, radiator, fixed a leak on the oil filter tower, cleaned out the EGR muck, fixed front electric windows and completely re-built the rear drums including back plates. So I practiced what I preached. Last time I change a clutch in a field though. Right so noe 5k miles on this scrapyard special. As expected with a yoke snatched from the jaws of the crusher a couple of new faults. Had to chance the n/s hub and them damn deadlocks. Despite greasing and oiling the mechanisim when I did the window runners the passinger door is become a pain. So a couple of questions. 1. Is this a crossover? 2. What is best way of removing the alarm and dead lock system? 3. If i rid her of the EGR (yes i know it needs re-mapped) would it be of much advantage? Thank you kindly. Fate has decided I am to spend 10 years of my life in a red Octavia 1. Wouldnt drive anything else.

Hi all, does anyone know if the AXR engine uses the Sachs M228E clutch? I have a black '08 Octavia 1 needing a steering rack, oil leak fixed and a vicious clutch currently on it. Its a good tight Octavia and only 135k miles on the clock. I got an almost new Sachs DMF and clutch and comparing it to the clutch on a 2005 ALH TDi90 I have stripped the M228E flywheel is thicker. The older TDi90 ALH has Sachs M228 and I re-lined the clutch plate on my own TDi90 recently - stitch in time. Pictures show the old and re-lined plates. Anyhow, did the AXR engine use the Sachs M228 as per the TDi90 or being the PD with its wicked twist of torque they have, did the AXR use the Sachs M228E? Also just as a matter of interest. The red Octavia is my 'new' 200pound (yes really and its as shiny as a 3 year old car) saved from the crusher TDi90. I replaced its entire rear brakes including the back plates which seems to have confused a couple of mechanics and put it on death row. Swapped over the turbo from a stripped TDi90, replaced the clutch plate (little sway on the DMF), a driveshaft, patched the exhaust downpipe, gave it a new thermostat and radiator, cleaned out the manifold, caliper pins (the bremtech kit) and took the wing and front bumper from the stripped TDi90 (also red handily enough.) Will get it through the test then a set of gas struts will take the bounce out of it. 176k miles and its as tight as a drum - all hail the best yoke ever made, Octavia 1! Also the new to me TDi 90 is September 2005, classic spec, am wondering do I have a run-out model? It has electric front windows, plip central locking, electric mirrors and the 3 lamp interior light. However it has a key boot lock unlike the PDs with that annoying blank instead of a boot lock. It does have a factory fitted alarm, which I am going to disable. Rear brakes are drum. Looking for 16" wheels for it also. The other red one in the background is my '03 SDi which will be for sale shortly and is rough and ready but has had everything an SDi needs to do another 100k miles. Clutch, steering rack, timing belt, struts (oil), driveshafts, radiator, kilen springs all round and its brakes scored 90% efficiency last December in the test. So if someone needs a great workhorse in N.Ireland, MLZ is available. Anyhow before taking the gearbox off the PD 100 AXR, was the clutch the same as the TDi or does the PD 100 use the heavier (but still 228mm clutch plate) M228E? The clutch I have (M228E) came from a passat apparently. Thanks.

Thank you very much Wino, The connectors look the same and is as simple as take the whole engine loom out. the far end of the loom being the connectors dropping to the fusebox/controls. Will be a good few days before I go back to the engine change. DMF. If the phone rings regarding another Octavia 1 I might just sell the engine and put the new suspension on my own on to the new Octavia. We shall see. Damn those DMF's they spoil the party. Clean Octavia, TDi 90, 176k and electric front windows. These cars are in the jaws of the crushers. Now is the time that in 20 years hence some people will wish they bought 3 of them. As if you were taking a MK2 Escort or 2-door Avenger out of the scrap for 30 notes about 1987! In the legend that is and will become, The Octavia 1. The Skoda. this year and the next is the cheapest they ever will be. Y'see, they lust don't rust. Thanks Wino the differences in the AQM and ALH looms are just air temp sensor and sump so even if I kept the old loom the yoke should still then start. Ballygrand.

Yes indeed, I am switching over the ECU of course, I was just asking if anyone knows are the extra wires needed for the TDi already on the SDi loom. This of course is assuming the connectors are the same. I haven't looked at the SDi ECU as yet. Have everything out of the scrap TDi - steering column, ECU, Engine and Gearbox, clocks, wings, driveshafts. If the connectors are the same it should just be taking the engine loom connector off the ECU and the 5 or 6 connectors where the engine loom drops into the interior. Drat, should have taken photos.

Been looking at the wiring loom and while the connectors to the brain seem to be the same the TDi engine has more sensors than the SDi. There are 4 wires going to the intercooler and a sensor in the sump of the TDi. Removing the engine loom is actually not a difficult job. The LH brain connector is for the engine and it 'T's into a loom running over the bulkhead, on the drives side where the fuses etc are there was 5 or 6 colour coded connectors that I removed after the wiper motor came out. What I don't know as yet, are there spare cables in the SDi loom to connect the extra sensors on the TDi? I can probably push light gauge wire onto the pins to make the connections. So does anyone know if the existing loom in the SDi have the extra wires? I will know when it comes to fitting the TDi brain to the SDi body, would be good to know before starting though! Also if someone is looking rid of a surplus Sachs ALH suitable DMF, I am in the market. Thanks, its a daunting couple of days doing the transplant and all the better with a heads up.

That's great thanks. So with the help of a bud' got the engine moved and took off the gearbox to reveal a corkscrewed Sachs DMF. 190k miles it had enough. Turbo looks good, and inlet manifold not too bad, usual choking around the EGR. Will clean the manifold tomorrow. The scrap octy is rocking on the center wheels.

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So my SDi is at 221k miles and while the engine is tip top the gearbox is getting noisy, I did change its oil a couple of times. I've has this SDi for over 5 years and its been thru quarries and mountain roads. Put 105k miles on it and have new sachs oil struts with the Kilen springs all round. Changed rear drums, wheel cylinders and a handbrake cable the Octavia is driving well. No rust, yeh they really were the best car body ever built. Then that front crash panel on them is like a Saab near enough. So instead of changing the 03 SDi I bought a scrap '05 TDi 90. Also red, so got doors and bumpers off it. Engine in the TDi seems good, about 190k miles on it. Was scrapped because the clutch collapsed or the slave cylinder is goosed. After 105k miles of SDi and I do a lot of motorway travel, I have pulled the engine out of the TDi. Will look at the clutch to see whats in there, DMF or no DMF. So, anybody know are these engines key coded to the pump or just the dashboard? Which module is the Engine Management and will the 70mph at 12 O'Clock work with a TDI module, the TDi clocks are 80mph at 12 noon. A back yard job! Fred Fintstone ramp!