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Is it not a 272

There is allot of comparisons made between the 280 and 272. In reality they are as quick as each other, what the 272 lacks in power it makes the deficit back with the 7 speed gearbox. I run a 280. The slightly higher revs at cruise speed is not noticeable as the engine is quiet and refined. You don't have a "gpf" on the 280 where as the 272 has one. The 280 has a valved exhaust where as the 272 does not. The 280 runs x8 fuel injectors to the 272 x4. There are not many 280's around second hand but loads of 272's. I think the 280 will be more collectable in my opinion. Prices are almost the same. I am having mine mapped soon with some additional parts fitted and looking to see 400bhp with a stage 2 map.

To achieve a healthy BHP figure of 360, did you go stage 1 or 2 and was it a map of plug in box please? Anything else changed in the 272?

Gotcha. Thanks

Why? I have an L & K 2017 with standard Canton and sub. The sub is in the boot in the left side pocket if you want to call it that. Passenger seat is the amp as someone has said.I Not sure why the IV would have no sub, can't imagine it's to do with the battery.

I read the oil going dirty/dark quickly on the TSi engine now, like diesels do, is because the engine has direct injection. Nothing to do with the GPF. My Superb 280 does it and my wife's CTR FK8 does it also.

I was looking at a 280 SEL and a 280 L & K. All have covered the spec differences. Can't think of anything that has been missed. However, a major difference for me is the seats are more comfortable in the L & K. Wife and I both agreed. We had a 3 hour test drive in both.

The flaps mean it is quiet at slower speeds and they open up at speed. Probably doesn't make that much difference but I like them clicking away when I start on a cold morning. Definitely quieter when on idle with flaps closed. Having the additional set of injectors will help in keeping the intake cleaner. But the main advantage is mapping though as we know. Stage 2 and 400bhp will be advantageous. When I tried the 7 speed DSG box in a Golf R 7.5 it was no quicker changing than the DQ250 6 speed in the 280. They are just as smooth as each other. It's additional 7th gear helps with cruising is the only advantage that I can see. Analog clocks, don't really have an opinion. If I am honest they both look boring compared to my wife's Type R FK8. Nothing like putting it into R mode and it all going red😉

@shyVRS245 is spot on and good to here from an owner of a mapped car, they can be totally reliable, just find a knowledgeable and well respected specialist that does maps and you are good to go.

You are correct that stage 1 about 350 and stage 2 about 400. Stage 3 is when it gets serious to about 500bhp but you need a hybrid of different turbo for that. From the tuners I have contacted and posts I have read on "FB" and a VW/Seat/Skoda tuning magazine, stage 2 is the sweet spot. Car will reliable ,stage 3 is when things get a little stressed. Either stage 1 of 2 is where it's at. Enjoy. I am definitely going stage 2 as I fancy that magical 400bhp😝😂😂😂😂😂

Swings and roundabouts comparing the 280 and 272. 272 May have GPF where as the 280 defiantly does not. DQ250 not as quick reacting as the 7 speed in the 272 which has a higher ratio too help for better cruising. So that is where the slightly lower 0 - 60 time comes from. Now the disadvantage over the 280. Non valved exhaust and only one outlet either inside not the trim where as the 280 has 2 either side. Also the 272 engine runs 4 injectors where as the 280 runs eight. Big advantage if you go down the mapping route. When my warranty runs out in March next year I am going stage 2 map with a few ancillary parts, airbox, other less restrictive pipework and turbo muffler delete. Will probably change the downpipe with a less restrictive cat. All this will see it produce 400bhp, low 4's 0 - 60. Will also have map installed on the DSG gearbox.

Agreed with @roughrider10,just popped out the spare key and used my thumbs, tried inserting a small screwdriver, did not work for me. Thumbs piece of cake. Only one key needed doing but did both to be sure. Second key was so easy, couple of mins done.

Totally understood. But there are other differences I believe. I have Superb 3 280 version. My understanding is that the Superb runs a EA888 Gen 1/2 engine, as did some Golf R's. The latest Golf R 7.5 runs a EA888 gen 3 engine. A major difference is the gen 3 has an integrated exhaust manifold cast into the alloy head. The Gen 1/2 does not. This promotes better power I believe. A good read. https://www.alexsautohaus.com/blog/vwaudi-ea888-gen-3-mqbmlb-engines-explained/ A 272 would never get through the MOT if the "GPF" is removed.

Remap definately invalidates the warranty. Let know one convince you otherwise. If you map a car and then there is an issue and you put the original map back on the car a decent VAG garage can tell, there are markers if they go looking for them. If you get a snotty nosed kid straight from school you maybe ok but don't bank on a master tech who is sharp taking a look and finding you out. Personally, a proper map is better than a plug in device. If done properly by a repeatable garage/tuning house there should be no issues as they can map the car/engine within tolerances that they do not stress the engine and gearbox much more then standard.

Build thread: Skoda Superb III 4x4 280 - A sleeper’s journey – 280ps to 560ps @VelocityVinnie Enjoy.