Del B

Ditto, no bong so time will tell if there's any difference

You're maybe not too wide of the mark - a post from a Skoda site in Russia states the following: "Probably over time, many different ways, the primary shaft seals begin to "podtravlivat" a little oil out of the box, and it is mixed with the dirt trapped in the engine compartment, in the first place (because of the construction of the box) gets "between the plate clutch disc and K2 the pressure plate when you turn off / turn on the clutch (TPI 2028367), and begins to cause" short-term irregular transfer of effort ... ", ie what we call "vibration on the second." IMHO, perhaps VAG knowing about it, but not being able to (production capacity at the time) to replace all the boxes because even described in TPI 2020468 "A3 with manual DSG (0AM ): oil leak in the clutch" My shudder disappeared but came back again yesterday so will book in to see what local dealer says. After reading other similar posts regarding dsg design faults and Skoda approved warranty claim rejections, my expectations are not high. Let's see

Thanks Dave. I took the Yeti out again today and it was mysteriously OK from cold but the shudder reappeared when restarted from warm. It certainly feels like clutch judder. I'm due to speak to the dealer on Monday and will report back once I know what it is. I notice from the various forums that there was a spate of similar problems reported with the early 7 speed DSG gearboxes around 2012 but perhaps later models benefited from design improvements. Mine is a 2010 model.

Hi all I'd not driven the wife's Yeti (1.2 tsi DSG) for a few weeks but took it out for a spin around town today and noticed a slight shudder every time I pulled away from a stopped position. My wife hadn't noticed it but there is definitely a vibration that never used to be there. It was more pronounced when I did a hill start. I'll book it in to the local dealer for a check but any suggestions in the meantime would be much appreciated. Thanks Del PS It had the dsg mineral oil change about 6 months ago

It will be interesting to hear what SUK have to say. It would have been a sensible precaution to replace all the leads with the extra protection. This is clearly a design problem and a potentially dangerous one at that. There have been several breakdowns reported on this site. My wife was stranded for hours on a remote country road a couple of years ago but it would have been a lot worse if it had happened on a motorway. In my view this should have been a recall issue. I now carry a spare set of leads just in case. I feel the VW group is poor when I comes to admitting to such problems. I love the Yeti but won't be buying another one because of this breakdown and concerns over DSG and timing chain issues in the long term.

I'll also not keep my Yeti beyond the 5 year extended warranty period for the same reason, which is a shame as it'll only have 30k on the clock and I'd intended to keep it long term. I'd like another Yeti but the replacement car will depend on reliability reports over the next 18 months. Interesting information (as always) from TP regarding the new generation TSI (will this be available on the Yeti?). I don't think the chain (or turbo) issues are a result of the engine being over-stresed but others will no doubt have more informed views!

Same here - the timing chain issue would prevent me holding onto the car long term which is a shame as it's close to perfect for what I need. Ironically, having a chain rather than a belt was a major selling point for me.

My experience with my 2010 1.2 SE DSG Yeti is similar to Kovo's - the timing chain first rattled loudly on a warm start up about a year ago with about 13k miles on the clock. It now sounds a bit 'dieselly' on most start ups but not sufficient to warrant a trip to the dealer. Also the DSG has been noticeably less smooth over the past year or so. For these reasons I took out a 2-year extended warranty and will not keep the Yeti beyond 5 years. I sold a 15-year old Subaru Legacy last week which I ran from (virtually) new with almost no faults but don't have the same faith in the Yeti (it broke down in the first year with the HT lead problem and left my wife seriously stranded). I'm a huge Yeti fan but replaced the Subaru with an Auris Hybrid estate which is a nice car (and returned 69mpg on the 70 mile trip home from the garage!)

I'm shocked (and confused) about the £1,000 limit on page 4 of the “SKODA Approved Extended Warranty and Assistance Cover” booklet in the second link above. I took out this cover through my Skoda dealer about 6 weeks ago so I checked my booklet and Car Care Plan cover certificate and found that both stated the cover (for individual claims and in aggregate) is limited to the purchase price of the vehicle. Is it possible there are two levels of cover for different purposes????. Best to check this point before taking the cover, or within the 30 day cancellation period at least..

You certainly are unlucky rambalad. That said, you have a new timing chain and DSG gearbox which are likely to more reliable than the originals(?) It was lead no. 1 that failed on my Yeti. I had the car MOT'd this week ahead of the warranty expiring at the end of the month. I'm going to take out the Skoda extended warranty just in case I have your 'luck'. I would have preferred the full Skoda factory extended warranty, but I don't think this was available when I bought the car. BTW I'm on my third set of badges.

And I would make make sure Skoda UK has a link to this thread, highlighting that it has been viewed almost 34,000 times. There are a lot of potential buyers following this story and monitoring SUK's handling of the debacle. Let's hope they do the right thing. Good luck.

My 1.2 TSI has been fine on start up apart from one occasion a few weeks ago when I started with a warm engine and the was an loud rattling sound for a few seconds. I thought it might be the timing chain issue but further research also indicates perhaps a turbo wastegate issue (whatever that is :think: ). It's not done it again, but disconcerting nonetheless. Shrub also offered the following explanation for cold engine rattles back in 2010: "The manual states that some initial engine rattle is normal in the TSI engine. It is all to do with oil pressure. Just don't rev it hard in those early moments or you will wear it out in no time. I haven't really noticed any rattle from mine on start up but I did have a slightly uneven idle for a few moments yesterday. Sorted itself out a few seconds after start up though."

New HT Lead sourced and fitted - Yeti back to normal. Good service from Specialist Cars, Aberdeen

I'm no expert in car parts but I guess non-OEM leads would be available from Halfords etc but I suspect the Skoda dealer can only use approved parts. There is no immediate availability and they can give no indication of when they will be supplied. There is some incentive on Skoda to fix asap as they are paying for a hire car whilst mine is off the road. Perhaps others can clarify if this is typical/normal?

Virtually identical fault and diagnosis with my Yeti 1.2 DSG (12k miles) - the wife was driving through a remote part of rural Aberdeenshire on Wednesday when the car started to judder and four warning lights came on i.e. EPC, TCS/ESP, TPM and Control System for Exhaust. We called Skoda Assist who arranged for RAC to attend. The RAC man spent about an hour investigating but he couldn't fix it at the roadside. The car was towed to the Skoda dealer in Aberdeen and a hire car was organised. The problem has now been diagnosed as a faulty HT lead. Unfortunately the leads are on back order and Skoda UK can't provide a firm delivery date but could be up to 2 weeks! Interestingly an internet search of Skoda/VAG faults involving this particular combination of warning lights has only produced one match and it was also a plug/lead problem. Whilst it is unfortunate that this has happened Skoda Assist's service can't be faulted.

Skoda Insurance also asked me to notify them every time I changed the wheels/tyres but the last time I called (in 2011) I was told it was not necessary to notify them in the future.

TUV/SUK I went down the SUK route last December to try to ascertain the manufacturer's 'approved' tyre/wheel combinations. Initially they told me they would only approve the wheel/tyre sizes already fitted to the Yeti but when I approached them a few weeks later they provided a range of recommended sizes which incidentally included fitting 16" tyres to 17" rims! (or vice versa, I can't remember). There was one other anomaly I pointed out per the correspondence below (item in red text) but they refused to acknowledge it was an error. Final position from SUK: Here are the revised figures. 205/55/16 6Jx16 205/55/16 7Jx16 215/60/16 6Jx16 205/50/17 6Jx17 My response re. anomaly: "I think the third option should read "215/60/16 7Jx16" - please see the bottom section in the table on page 184 of 212 of the attached Skoda TUV 'standard tyre' document. [Also, throughout this document, the 215 tyres are matched only with the 7J wheels for all Skoda models]" Reference to Skoda TUV 'standard tyre' document "The table heading "Gen-Nr. e11*2007/46*0010*07" refers to the Type Approval Number that appears on my V5c registration documents and "CBZB" is the Skoda Engine Code for the 1.2 petrol engine. Other 1.2 Yeti owners on the Briskoda forum have already been advised by SUK that the 215 tyres should be fitted to the 7J wheels and I've promised to update them with the corrected information. I would therefore appreciate your confirmation that my understanding is correct."

Thompson and Potter at Burrleton [blairgowrie] may be nearer and is one of the best - highly recommended.

..this is going to get confusing - Homebase and the Duthie Park are two of my most regular haunts!

Quick questions on MPG: 1. On standard 17" wheels my speedometer over-reads by approximately 6% (i.e. reads 74mph when travelling at 70mph). Does this mean that the odometer will also over-state distance travelled by the same %age and therefore that the MPG (both Maxidot and your own manual calcs) will be over-optimistic? 2. Also when my Winter tyres were fitted (on 16" wheels) this added another 3% to the over-read on both odometer and speedometer, which I guess would add to the over-estimate of MPG? Any thoughts? Cheers Derek PS Maxidot indicates I'm getting 37 MPG overall on my 1.2 DSG on mixed driving

Me too so make that 3 - that's only a 50% increase on 2 so at least the rate of growth of the problem is slowing down!

I was there last Saturday lunchtime so it could have been me - but as The Scunjmeister points out they're as common as muck nowadays

Scunjee By any chance was that you on the Ellon/Aberdeen road last Sunday afternoon??? I was passed by a Yeti with a Victoria Garage sticker on the back window. Del

If you don't need it, the parcel shelf is a very neat fit when placed vertically behind the rear seats.....

Irrespective of the technical issues another consideration is that, as the handbook states "Winter tyres must be mounted on all four wheels to obtain the best handling characteristics", you might have difficulty in persuading your insurers that the fitted tyres complied with the manufacturer's recommendations, which is a typical insurance company stipulation. In the event of an accident you could find yourself high and dry . It is also disappointing that some unpleasantness has crept into this thread - the good humoured and informative nature of the Yeti forum has (so far) set it apart from other online forums where sniping and points scoring is the norm.