Graham Butcher

That again is not the point being made.

Thanks for this, but that is what I took from the video is what is required, maybe you didn't understand. It is not a one size fits all situation and that people need to be mindful of others. He also ends up his video saying that there needs to be more to enticement for people to ditch the fossil fuel, polluting vehicles to get into EVs. Cleary one of us did not fully grasp what he was actually saying, I thought he made the argument for EV's but that there needed to be loads more done before it could become available to everyone both in the infrastructure and their range, or there again maybe I was just dreaming that, or whatever...

Sorry about that, I can only write as I find. Most filling stations at nighttime are only staffed by a single person and I have heard them talking over the intercom, which incidently is at each pump location, and they will, if there are other people filling up, ask them to assist, or lock the place up and exit the office to assist and then unlock again afterwards. Clearly there is zero assistance at some stations day or night, and Asda springs to my mind here as our local store has 24/7 unmanned pumps and only take debit/credit cards at the pump, as that dude said, and I can see that trend continuing as supermarkets themselves are actively removing manned checkouts in their stores and fitting self-service tills, which I try to avoid like the plague and shop where they still employ people. I have seen people waving their disability parking badges at the people in the kiosk and flashing their lights to attract help, and it has worked. Why is Scotland any different? PS. Merry Christmas to you.

Yes that was a pretty good review, more balanced then others. At most filling station stations there is a 2 way intercom so you can chat with the cashier who should be able to get help for disabled drivers, no such system for EV users.

Hooray, finally there is a video that actually is saying but what I have trying to convey about electric cars and some of their drivers and others who say, I'm not watching x or y. my time is too precious, but they also expect others to hang onto every word that they say because they think that only they have their finger on the pulse and what ever anyone else has to say is just plain silly or wrong. These are the people who are certain people's wet dream because they will do whatever they say because they just simply agree with their viewpoint without ever looking at things from any other angles and seeing if their beliefs are valid or not. I have always tried, in the name of being fair to all people in this topic, looked at it from all sides and in doing so, get a well-rounded and balanced view of things because someone may think of something that everyone else hasn't. Just like this presenter, I have always been happy for people to buy whatever best suits their own needs, and like I do, acknowledges that EVs do not pollute at the tailpipe and that is a good thing, however, I urge people to actually watch this video and pay attention to the reasoning he presents and some solutions towards getting more EVs on the road.

When I replied earlier to this posting, I thought about the white Superb that I was asking questions about here back in April this year which looked pretty good in the photos from a large dealer in London apart the bright trim which was missing from the windows, photo below, this was listed for sale on the 17th April and based on the photos and the way that all the good Superbs were sold within mere days of listing. I thought I'd phone (on my way back from Nottingham having been to view another Superb) to see about viewing the car. I was told that it was not yet ready to view as it was in the workshop and being valeted but if I placed a holding deposit, they would call me back when it was all done and ready for viewing, and I'd get first refusal and if I didn't buy it the deposit was refundable They did phone about 10 days later and I went to see this car, it was a dog, smashed windscreen, dents in the back bumper, bright trim had been re-attached and was merely hanging there by a thread, a car wash would have ripped it off in flash, the car was clean but not what I'd call valeted for sale condition. I rejected the car there and then. Anyway back to the point, I just checked the dealers website and guess what, they still have this car listed for sale, £495 more than when I first saw it and they now list it as having a cracked windscreen. It's an automatic MOT failure as it is such a long crack, around 40cm and is right in the drivers line of sight. When I first saw this car, I discovered the photos, which includes the below, were taken over a year ago, just before it was MOT'd and they still have not managed to sell it. All the others I looked at were in fact sold with in 2 weeks of being listed, that is a sign of how bad this car is.

I'll leave this here for your pleasure, I'm certain @wyx087will love this for sure. The scale is just mind-boggling. Happy Christmas everyone.🥂

@lol-lol Boot space in all town/city cars is going to be compromised, especially for carrying a pram, and also shopping for a more mature family, owing to the larger amount of shopping required. My eldest son has a Ford Focus (diesel) and the car only has to carry shopping for him and his girlfriend, and sometimes it has to spill over onto the back seat. Its never a good idea to stack bags either as things tend to get squashed or broken and end up being thrown away and wasted, I know that even with my massive boot, I often have to put things on the rear seats and on the floor behind front seats.

That case has a update and also a 2nd similar case which has been followed up on by the channel and that price has been confirmed. Also this channel is not a new one on the scene and is not one that bashes electric cars, it is a serious car channel that has been active for years with loads of reviews covering petrol, diesel and lately electric cars, so is a well-rounded channel, the sort that I like.

Thanks for sharing, but somehow I doubt we will ever achieve this because big business and governments want to keep the cash flowing in.

That sounds like some good consumer advise there, especially the rapid charging for those odd times when longer trips might need to be taken or if home charging might be a problem.

Strange but is the same as I was operating at the time, I watched enough videos by Mike Brewer to understand how to buy. I was only entertaining well known dealers with decent and respectable premises and stock. Back street operators and private sellers were off my radar as I lack mobility to get down and under and inspect those areas. Anyway, I did eventually find what I was looking for in Mansfield and I got a decent deal and what should be major trouble free motoring for years apart from the normal consumer ables, servicing and annual mot.

I think that might not be the case these days. That is the premise I went with in April/May when I was looking and every single dealer I visited when it came down to trying to agree a price and or doing any work required on the car, the answer was always the same, zero deals, the price was not negotiable and if there was no detailed service history to show when the toothed cam belt and water pump was or indeed if it had been changed, would they throw in for the asking price, nope. I was a cash buyer, with cash in my pocket, so I walked away. The dealer knew I had the cash, and were happy to watch me walk away as they claimed, they could sell the car quickly anyway, just as it was. And they appeared to be right as well, most of the cars I saw did indeed sell within days of being listed. I was on the verge of giving up on my selection and lowering my standards a little when I saw my current car had just been listed over a weekend, I rang had a chat with the dealer and then drove 150 miles to see the car, all the service history was there, and it was due for the cam belt etc, which the dealer was in the process of doing in his workshops, it had one or 2 minor imperfections which he said he was going to put right before he would let the car go, which he did, at great expense, so I said I'd buy the car and a deal was struck. I'm happy with it, he has good feedback and is an AA approved dealer.

@RootedYep, but I think the budget was upto 8K and there were none in the price range on Autotrader.

According to Auto trader, yes they are listing a electric B class, unless it's a typo.

True, I did have a petrol version once as a courtesy car while mine was being serviced, although cramped, I managed to live with it for a day and thought that for a small car it was pretty comfortable and didn't seem to suffer from the feeling of bobbing about like a cork on an ocean wave, unlike my SIL's Yaris.

Of course, thanks.

I just did a scan on Autotrader, and you've covered all the bases there. None of them have what I would call a boot though, more of a cupboard. There is of course the VW E-UP, but that is just an electric Fabia. Hang a moment, how about a Citroen C-Zero? Or a Mercedes Benz B Class?

@wyx087Weeks or months ago means weeks or months ago, not hours. Also I may not have said that in a post directly to you, but it has been said and also as @Rootedhas mentioned before about wind farms not being used but gas fired generators being switched on to meet demand in England and maybe London even. The only way to be 100% sure you are using green power is to generate your own and only recharge at home and directly from your own green source.

What you mean like the medical experts who were paraded out in the No 10 daily Covid TV briefings. I find it rather odd how now they are trying to tell us at the Covid enquiry that they did not agree with the government's handling of the pandemic and yet, they helped the PM and other senior ministers tell us how we had to behave when it was too little and too late 🤔 PS> I don't ever remember any of those experts breaking ranks at the time and telling us what they believed was the right way forward.

@RootedI had to chuckle reading the link you referred to about Maggie Thatcher with regard to leaded petrol causing violent criminal activity. I just wonder what the blame for the high levels of such behaviour we have today, would be aimed at? Extract from that article "By the mid-1980s, Maggie Thatcher had clearly ‘got’ the environment. She had a major impact by the late 1980s, winning the battle against leaded petrol (that was reducing the IQ of children and causing behavioural disorders including violent criminal activity) after making unleaded petrol available at British service stations from 1988. A key mechanism was the use of ‘tax incentives for unleaded fuel’ (This Common Inheritance (TCI), Summary, page 22)."

Have a very short memory? I have made that claim weeks or months ago and also the carbon footprint.

There is a tractor, well spotted, one of their neighbours also has one, encircled in the screen print below. The claim made by the fire dept, still does not match up to the neighbours reports or the video one of them took. The car itself is not the issue here at this point. Those people in the video would all be neighbours, the area around the plot is not a tourists spot at all and neither is the beach. As to the land you mentioned, agreed, which is what I implied, the land in which your uncle's house stands is all owned by him, but he chose to arrange his house so the main living area had a more inviting view of the golf course rather than the road

You may well be right, I was not much interested in politics in those days, but either way, diesel was very much encouraged by the government and the public and business users bought into it in a big way. Why officials in Labour government pushed 'dash for diesel' - BBC News

Hmm, not so sure about business men (car manufacturers execs) claiming that diesel was greener, I'd doubt that they would care either way if the buyer purchased a diesel or a petrol car, really. Don't politicians always claim that they have been advised by professionals, look at the debacle over Covid, we were all told by politicians and so-called professionals that what action the Government were taking to ensure the safety of the population was indeed the correct action. We are now learning just much that was pure BS. I also was never comparing the switch to BEV from Diesel. All I've said is that aren't we just moving the emissions from tail pipe to other remote locations, and currently we are still generating electricity from combustion, we have a long way to go still, not to mention other ways that BEV can and do harm the planet and populations, but it's not in our backyard so that's OK then. Granted, we need to stop burning stuff, we also need to stop chopping whole forests as that also harms the planet, but stopping that happening will not generate huge amounts of cash for the super rich, unlike BEV's. You can call me cynical if you like, but don't call me late for dinner Like this NZ fire, I'm not saying anything at all about the car being an BEV, I just don't know, but what I'm claiming appears to be a cover-up is where the fire started. I saw the first video of the fire with in hours of it being uploaded and thought nothing more about it. When a few days later the second video was uploaded is when I saw the complete apparent attempt at rewriting history about where the fire started. The car could be Hydrogen, Petrol, Diesel or a BEV as far as I care, the type of energy source is irrelevant. The short video of the car and garage on fire but not the house was videoed before the FENZ (firemen) arrived on the scene.