Hi

Friend of mine took his Seat Leon 170 PD to a rolling road test.

As standard the car produced 194 BHP and 420Nm of torque, which is clearly way over the output figures for the 170 PD engine.

The only non-standard thing was he runs it on Shell Super Diesel (Sorry forget the name)

Just wondered if anyone had similiar results with there VRs Octavias, and out of interest what did they come with as standard BHP and Torque

Cheers

I would query when the rolling road was last calibrated. I would not believe these figures. What's the use of paying for tests with results like these ?

crap rr with them figures the whole reason to take readings with a pinch of salt lol

the rr is only as good as the operator but thats way over the top where was this???

Also where is that figure for - the road power or has it been "calculated back" to take into account the mechanical loss?

Definitely sounds stupidly high.

Unless it has been "chipped".

VAG turbo engines are well know for showing more BHP than advertised, but this may be is a bit too much for a regular engine without chip/remap.

I know the 143 bhp diesel engine can go easily to 194 but with a proffesional remap of course.

Edited 23 February, 201016 yr by pueseso

Sounds like a Revo figure to me

I have heard of cars getting maybe 10bhp over the factory claim as standard but not 24bhp and certainly not that amount of Torque.

I would suggest, as others have pointed out, either the dyno operator was a 5 year old or the car has been mapped.

Carl

Been to 3 rolling road days with Seat Cupra.net(2 different places) and on average mine came back as 190bhp ish / 380nm. Put it down to the Tesco Ecomony Diesel I use!

Mine is a 170 PD too

Try a Dyno dynamics RR, I wouldn't trust any other.

Edited 23 February, 201016 yr by vRSMart

Personally I went to all 3 events to meet friends between meeting up at BTCC events so I can honestly say i couldn't care less about the figures but did find them amusing given the nothing my Leon has had done. It's a company car after all so it goes back soon to be replaced by a vRS

Between 180 and 190 is about right.

Hi

Friend of mine took his Seat Leon 170 PD to a rolling road test.

As standard the car produced 194 BHP and 420Nm of torque, which is clearly way over the output figures for the 170 PD engine.

The only non-standard thing was he runs it on Shell Super Diesel (Sorry forget the name)

Just wondered if anyone had similiar results with there VRs Octavias, and out of interest what did they come with as standard BHP and Torque

Cheers

Stock 105 giving stock 118 bhp has been found before so its not that stupid perhaps ?

Thus the following remap gave 150.5 not 132 it should have done .Its on JKM's website

Edited 23 February, 201016 yr by Mace

Hello

I'm said friend.

Just to clarify, this was a rolling road day with about 30-40 cars run that day at AMD technik in essex, for members of seatcupra.net

http://www.amdessex.com/news.read.cfm?articleid=80

It's a normal PD170 engine, no remap, no revo, no green cotton filters malarky, with about 21k on the clock.

Test 1: 194.1 Hp , 305.6lb/ft @ 2782rpm

Test 2: 194.7 Hp, 302.6lb/ft @ 2782rpm

It's only 18 months old from new so there's going to be no remapping until it falls out of warranty, when I'll probably have the de-dpf work done.

Should be interesting to see what else it can chuck out at that point, but I'll probably need a new clutch by then.

I used AMD the other week my stock 198 RR run would seem that AMD RR may be calibrated ok.

Tho many on here seem to think my second run of 255 and final run of 264Bhp is too high but others on scirroco forums have similar results.

Is it possible that the car may have been mapped by the dealer. It is no uncommon practice, apparently, for dealers to remap demonstrators to make them feel more

exciting during a test drive.

Is it possible that the car may have been mapped by the dealer. It is no uncommon practice, apparently, for dealers to remap demonstrators to make them feel more

exciting during a test drive.

Crafty Gits

ah AMD essex, in that casee then its down to the dyno over reading as well as the potential dyno errors they have done for me on 3 occasions. And they arnt cheap wither thats why i wouldnt ever use them again.

Shauns stage 2 vRS makes 277hp on their rollers with nothing but a TBE and stage 2 MAP. mine at stage 2 bluefin was definately quicker and less powerrful.

my vRS with bluefin stage 2+ made 287hp on their rollers which is way above what it actuallyt was, especuially as it couldnt eep up with stage 2 cars with 27hp less. every car i have seen n their rollers seems to over read by 15Hp+. loads of hguys on Mk5 forum have used them on git huge figures at stage 2, then felt really down when they went to another rolling road expecting these figures again, only to find them subbstantially lower.

Id bet that the car is around the correct stated horsepower possibly 10Hp more at a maximum.

Edited 24 February, 201016 yr by vRSy

Hello

Said friend

LOL

Is it possible that the car may have been mapped by the dealer. It is no uncommon practice, apparently, for dealers to remap demonstrators to make them feel more

exciting during a test drive.

Nope, as it was a straight factory order which I had to wait 10 long weeks for due to the obscene number of options I ticked on the order form

I'm comfortable with the numbers as the car is certainly no slouch in its current factory state. I'll be interested to see what it makes when the de-dpf remap gets applied