Thats interesting as i was just looking at them and thought they might be ok, but can see the concern in your photos - have you upped the bar/psi, just wondering if this makes much difference to the side wall?

I've got them at 2.6 bar at the minute. Don't really want to much higher and cause problems with uneven wear/reduced grip etc. Plus the amount the wheel protrudes, I think the sidewall would have to be pretty distorted to overlap it.

I've had them on my Superb for a few weeks now, a great tyre.

 

 

A little more protection for the alloys on my 17's...

 

 

One thing I have noticed though is an increase in fuel consumption.

 

This may be due to the fact that the summers fitted prior were on the wear bars, or more likely down to the fact I went from a 45 profile to 50 for the increased pothole protection, see here...

 

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/373406-can-i-fit-22550-r17-tyres-to-my-superb/

 

The wear indicator is a neat feature, note the 4, 6, and 8 on the central tread...

 

 

They fill the arches a little better than the summers too 

 

Edited 10 December, 201510 yr by silver1011

One thing I have noticed though is an increase in fuel consumption.

 

This may be due to the fact that the summers fitted prior were on the wear bars, or more likely down to the fact I went from a 45 profile to 50

The higher profile means you are now travelling further than your odometer is actually showing, so whilst it may appear that you are using more fuel this is being masked by the speedo's inaccuracy.

Ah good point, I had foolishly thought that my manual calculation would avoid any of the inaccuracy, but of course the odometer will now also be affected!

 

 

A downside I've noticed is that there is zero protection for the wheel, the edge of the alloy sticks out a good couple of mm from the tyre  :|

 

 

 

Got mine on now, can see what you mean - so guess i need to go a bit careful with them i think. i think they were a little noisier than the GY Eagle F1's at low speed but this doesn't seem to increase at all motorway speed, so overall as good from this point if not better.

 

Was watching the temp gauge all the way home and it didn't drop below 7.5deg   , but at least i'm prepared! Lol

 

Interesting the tyre depot i got them fitted said they can get any make other than Nokian (as interested to see how much more they'd be all up if they supplied them) - but the fitter reckon they are good tyres.

Better half managed to demonstrate the lack of rim protection offered by the 17" 215/40 Nokian A3 winters fitted to the Spaceback, by brushing a curb. Fortunately just scuffed the paint finish down to the primer on the rim edge, without damage to the actual rim.

 

Great tyre, particularly in the cold and very wet, which we run at the standard pressure as given on the fuel flap, having noted Skoda had stopped recommending a 0.2 bar increase in their owners handbook for winter rubber.

 

 

Oh also running the new Michelin Cross Climate on the Volvo (225/50 R17) and likewise this seems an effective tyre in cold and very wet conditions and again set at the standard setting.

 

 

TP

Nokian and most other manufacturers also recommend the extra 0.2 bat for winter tyres.

Back at my Mums in the North East they have had a bit of traffic chaos with it snowing most of the day. Of course I'm down here in Manchester and when I next pop up there it's supposed to be around 10 degrees

Nokian and most other manufacturers also recommend the extra 0.2 bat for winter tyres.

 

Found with older pattern winters this 0.2 was necessary, however I've noticed the latest tyres feel more stable and wear more evenly across the tread without it. 

 

 

TP

I've had them on my Superb for a few weeks now, a great tyre.

 

 

A little more protection for the alloys on my 17's...

 

 

One thing I have noticed though is an increase in fuel consumption.

 

This may be due to the fact that the summers fitted prior were on the wear bars, or more likely down to the fact I went from a 45 profile to 50 for the increased pothole protection, see here...

 

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/373406-can-i-fit-22550-r17-tyres-to-my-superb/

 

The wear indicator is a neat feature, note the 4, 6, and 8 on the central tread...

 

They fill the arches a little better than the summers too 

 

 

 

They seem to offer more protection for the wheel than the lower profile ones. They also look like they have that 'silent sidewall technology' strip that Nokian advertises, but again my lower profile ones don't (at least not a visible one).

 

Got mine on now, can see what you mean - so guess i need to go a bit careful with them i think. i think they were a little noisier than the GY Eagle F1's at low speed but this doesn't seem to increase at all motorway speed, so overall as good from this point if not better.

 

Was watching the temp gauge all the way home and it didn't drop below 7.5deg   , but at least i'm prepared! Lol

 

Interesting the tyre depot i got them fitted said they can get any make other than Nokian (as interested to see how much more they'd be all up if they supplied them) - but the fitter reckon they are good tyres.

 

Hahaha it's so disappointing isn't it!  I'm positively hoping it snows now just so I can try my tyres!  :clap:  

 

Had mine fitted by the Skoda dealer and they said they couldn't source the Nokian's either  :no:

Great tyre, particularly in the cold and very wet, which we run at the standard pressure as given on the fuel flap, having noted Skoda had stopped recommending a 0.2 bar increase in their owners handbook for winter rubber.

 

 

Nokian and most other manufacturers also recommend the extra 0.2 bat for winter tyres.

 

See here:

 

https://www.nokiantyres.com/innovation/facts-about-tyres/tyre-inflation-pressures/

 

 

"More air in your winter tyres

Temperature has a significant impact on tyre pressurisation. For summer tyres, we recommend using the vehicle manufacturer’s suggested tyre pressure. For winter tyres, you should inflate the tyres to 0.2 bar above the summer tyre recommendation. The temperature in a warm garage can be up to 30 ˚C higher than outside. If the tyre pressure is measured inside, it will be too low for outside temperatures.

Example: The temperature in the garage is +20 ˚C, while the outside temperature is -10˚ C à If the pressure is adjusted in the garage, the pressure added to the tyres must be 30 kPa (0.3 bar) higher than the recommended value to ensure a correct pressure level outside.”

"More air in your winter tyres

Temperature has a significant impact on tyre pressurisation. For summer tyres, we recommend using the vehicle manufacturer’s suggested tyre pressure. For winter tyres, you should inflate the tyres to 0.2 bar above the summer tyre recommendation. The temperature in a warm garage can be up to 30 ˚C higher than outside. If the tyre pressure is measured inside, it will be too low for outside temperatures.

Example: The temperature in the garage is +20 ˚C, while the outside temperature is -10˚ C à If the pressure is adjusted in the garage, the pressure added to the tyres must be 30 kPa (0.3 bar) higher than the recommended value to ensure a correct pressure level outside.”

I read this on nokian site, but makes me wonder if it's more about the potential larger range in tempature and relative pressure. I filled my D4s to 2.6 bar today (0.2 over recommended), the tempature was 10 degrees, so on the basis of the above if I was to assume an average temp of zero deg when driving, I should have them set just 0.1 bar over recommended ?? They do feel a tad on the hard side now.

Edited 14 December, 201510 yr by Exeterj

I notice on my 1 series that the tyre pressure goes up a couple of psi (and the temp likewise) after I have driven around for a bit and that's not hammering it either.

The tyres (and consequently the gas inside them) heat up even during normal driving, this in turn will raise the pressure.

If you're using winter tyres in 'normal' temeratures (such as we are at the minute in the UK), should you still inflate to 0.2bar above the normal value??

The tyres (and consequently the gas inside them) heat up even during normal driving, this in turn will raise the pressure.

If you're using winter tyres in 'normal' temeratures (such as we are at the minute in the UK), should you still inflate to 0.2bar above the normal value??

I don't have winter tyres on my M135, but I wonder how much the pressure would go up if I was really on a mission (as they say) The extra heat generated by all the friction, pressure and stress must make quite a difference the pressure. Well perhaps a few psi (I never could remember Boyles law and all that stuff )

The tyres (and consequently the gas inside them) heat up even during normal driving, this in turn will raise the pressure.

If you're using winter tyres in 'normal' temeratures (such as we are at the minute in the UK), should you still inflate to 0.2bar above the normal value??

 

 

I'm finding the D4's too hard in the current temperatures -  i'd set them to 2.5bar / 37psi @ 11 deg c and its only warmed up since! Seem to get traction control light coming on acceleration mid rev range (2nr / 3rd gear) and feeling a bit 'wobbly' at speed.

 

Think i'll drop them to 35 psi (just over 2.4 bar) for the current conditions and up them if/when it get much cooler for any length of time.

 

Missus seems happy with the weatherproofs but not sure what psi the tyre place put in them (probably standard on the scout 2.2bar) - will check tomorrow.

Edited 18 December, 201510 yr by Exeterj

I've just driven 160 miles in the pouring and sometimes freezing rain and can say the D4s are the best wet weather tyre I've ever used Coming down the A1 there was  a huge amount of standing water and apart from the usual 'slowing down' feeling, the car steering never went light of tugged wildly in my hands. the Car stayed arrow true in all events. They are much, much better in the wet than my previous Vredestein Extremes. Can't say if they are as impressive on ice and snow yet, but 10/10 for wet weather handling.

The Weatherproofs have been similarly good in the wet. We drove back from Harrogate this evening, with quite a bit of flooding on the road, and the car went where it was pointed all the time. It's interesting that when you drive through water it all get pushed out the side - there doesn't seem to be any pushed forwards like I used to get with the Dunlops. I can tell they're getting the water out of the way, as my MPG has been rubbish over the last few weeks, as a significant amount of the driving has been on damp or wet roads.

UPDATE

 

Had the Nokian's on for a little while now, and the first thing to be noticed is the grip in the wet is fantastic. It's been ridiculously wet here over the past few weeks, giving them plenty of opportunity to show faults, but I honestly haven't noticed any.

 

Even when driven on in an "exuberant" manner; there's next to no aquaplaning, very little disproportionate wheel spin, and stopping almost feels like you're on a dry road. In fact the only times they've lost traction really is as a result of my driving.

 

Now the temperature has (finally) dropped to (almost) proper winter temperatures, I've had a little chance to test them here too (albeit very limited). In temp's around -2 with visible and black ice on the roads, the tyres have once again stuck fabulously, no misbehaving there. Today we have had a very light dusting of snow, and as I was mainly driving around country-type roads at the time, it was obvious the difference over normal tyres they make. I was able to drive almost as I would with no snow without fear of losing control; the amount of grip to be offered was properly impressive.