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On 13/12/2023 at 07:06, Ootohere said:
REAL World questions.
Many questions. WLTP just nonsense!
Did they from a fully charged battery zero the mileometer and go 109 miles, or not zero when full, maybe from collecting the car the 146 miles?
Because if they had the 54 & 58 % left that is not good for only 109 miles.
But then when nearly 1/2 way there there was 72% left.
Is that half way on 109 miles so just over half way, say 60 miles using 38% of the battery.
200 mile range left.
That might mean 260 miles possible.
'But nearing end of journey just over 100 miles completed.' Only 58% left though.
2 hours, 109 miles sounds about right. But not doing 146 mile????
82 kWh total capacity battery, 77 kWh.
X 3.3 miles per kWh. Would be 254 miles.
54 % of the battery left and only 109 miles done.
It would have made sense, split the load between the cars on the return journey and see how well they do and if actually identical efficiency.
77 kWh usable getting 4 miles a kWh before you have 308 miles range.
official range 345 miles.
That would need to be getting 4.48 miles a kWh.
Just watched this old video.
They said it's a "Myth" that driving style can impact economy but then they fail to test driving style, as they've apparently been driving in convoy and presumably accelerating / braking together.
(I'm pretty sure that driving style would make a difference.)
Also, in the so-called "identical" cars, one has a rear wiper and the other doesn't - which is surely going to impact aerodynamics if you're heading up a motorway on a long journey. And doesn't bode well that they failed to notice it.
(Also not sure you've ever been able to buy a Coupe Enyaq with a rear wiper in the UK? So maybe it was some sort of press car?)
So I don't think it's a very credible video - not a YouTube channel I'll be subscribing to...
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22 hours ago, Luckypants said:
I saw the launch photos and got all huffy about no rear wiper and muddy Welsh roads.... but watched this video and Ginny showed it tucked up in the rear spoiler. I like this car.
I saw another video where you could just about spot it when they opened the boot, although it wasn't mentioned.
Electric cars lean on every aero trick they can to eke out range from limited batteries, so from that point of view it makes sense to hide the wiper away from the airflow under the spoiler.
It looks awkward for maintenance though.
Also one thing I do on a frosty morning is manually prise the wiper blades away from the windows, in case they are iced on - it looks like that would be tricky in this setup.
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It baffles me why Skoda don't put these on their main Brochures page... but here is a new version of the Octavia brochure, dated 8 May 2024 (curiously that's 2 days in the future as I write this):
https://www.skoda.co.uk/_doc/0bcfc2d5-654f-49b2-a524-91e141293e36I found it on this page:
https://www.skoda.co.uk/new-cars/octavia/estate-se-technology
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7 minutes ago, Cedwing said:
The spec sheet I downloaded shows a WLTP range of 77 miles for the Superb which is not bad. I guess a Golf does better.
That's interesting as all the marketing seems to consistently use the 100km (which I guess is 62 miles?) figure.
Although to be fair this one says "more than 100km", but 77 miles is a lot better than that, not just a rounding error or similar.
https://www.skoda-storyboard.com/en/press-kits/skoda-superb-combi-driving-experience-press-kit/powertrains-six-efficient-engines-debut-of-mild-hybrid-tech-improved-plug-in-hybrid-with-over-100-km-of-electric-range/ -
It does seem that Volkswagen are rolling out a new standard PHEV system across lots of cars (I think the Golf, Leon, Superb, Passat, Kodiaq and surely some others I've missed).
They all seem to have
- 1.5TSI,
- 100km claimed range (which is interesting as presumably you need a bigger battery in a Kodiaq than a Leon to achieve that, but it's the claimed range which is the constant factor)
- DC charging at 50kW
- AC charging on a home charger at up to 11kW
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On 30/04/2024 at 22:33, DavidY said:
I see the PHEV models are now available in the UK Configurator.
Looks like PHEV estate prices start at £41,675 for a SE Technology with no options.Although by this morning they seem to have disappeared from the configurator! I imagine they'll be back sooner or later.
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On 01/05/2024 at 21:02, Yogi-Bear said:
It's also there for the SE L in 5-seat guise, as PHEV is only going to be available with 5-seats. I wonder if that means we're going to get the choice of 5-seats across all the trims for the first time in the UK...? Or will they not offer the PHEV on the higher trims (SportLine, L&K) and remain 7-seat only for them...?
... and now the PHEVs have gone from the configurator!
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10 hours ago, Yogi-Bear said:
It's also there for the SE L in 5-seat guise, as PHEV is only going to be available with 5-seats. I wonder if that means we're going to get the choice of 5-seats across all the trims for the first time in the UK...? Or will they not offer the PHEV on the higher trims (SportLine, L&K) and remain 7-seat only for them...?
When the Mk4 FL Octavia was launched (apparently with no PHEV option, even though other VAG models on the same platform will get the new 100km range PHEV) I saw an interview with a senior Skoda exec. In it he was saying they don't get much profit from PHEVs. So I wonder how many models will get that option?
That said, clearly VAG have invested effort into developing a much better PHEV setup compared to the previous generation IVs in Octavias and Superbs. As well as better range, the new ones all seem to have fast charging, and the 100km range claim seems universal (even though presumably they all have slightly different battery sizes to achieve that).
For me (wrong sub-forum I know) I'd buy an Octavia estate if they put the new PHEV platform into it - it would work well for me. I'm even looking at things like the Leon estate where they just announced a facelift and it looks like that might get the PHEV. I would prefer a Skoda though. (The Superb looks good but is a bit too long for where I'd need to park.)
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Looks like they are about to add one of the PHEV models too.
(Ostensibly it's there for the SE, but at time of writing it doesn't show a price.)
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On 28/04/2024 at 09:24, andrehj said:
Thanks for the link. Now also the PHEV models are included.
But it's an online manual only. Does anybody have a link to download the manual as PDF?PHEVs are in the UK configurator too now.
I don't know where to find PDFs of the manual - maybe someone will know more but if they still exist they don't seem to be anywhere obvious on the website. The online versions are pretty poor in my experience.- 2
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I see the PHEV models are now available in the UK Configurator.
Looks like PHEV estate prices start at £41,675 for a SE Technology with no options.- 1
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1 hour ago, skoda2019 said:
The se tech now gains heated seats and the sel gains extras.
SE Tech also gains folding mirrors, and one or two other things as well I believe.
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7 hours ago, StewartM said:
Matrix headlights standard on VRS, but not even an option now on SE L or Sportline ? ?
My impression is that the options list is overall a bit thinner than it was at the end of the non-FL Mk4 versions.
Maybe more options will reappear once they have been in production for a while?
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7 hours ago, jpg86 said:
I wonder why?
I saw an interview (AutoExpress) when they launched the FL version, with someone at Skoda, who said
- "at the time it was decided not to put the plug-in hybrid in the Octavia" And then a bit later:
- "Will we revisit that? Yes." But also:
- "the profit margins on plug-in hybrids are low"
So may be some chance of Octavia PHEVs eventually but I'd be surprised if it's before 2025. Which is a shame - put Skoda/ VW's new 100km/62 mile range (WLTP I guess) batteries in an Octavia Estate and I'd be very interested.
Also worth noting - Skoda *have* announced there will be new PHEV versions of the Superb and Kodiaq, but PHEV versions aren't in the current brochures for those either.
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9 minutes ago, SurreyJohn said:
The main download a brochure page doesn't have it under list of vehicles (clearly an error by team that looks after website) but it obscurely linked within the Kodiaq 2 further information.Thanks for that.
I was curious what would happened if I just used Google - and that way I found an Octavia FL brochure (I posted the link over in that Forum) which also isn't on the brochure page.
And the Brochure page has a picture of the old Superb but a link to the brochure for the new Superb.- 1
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UK Brochure for the facelift Octavia - 10 April 2024.
It doesn't seem to have a link from the main brochure page on the website - but Google found this for me.
https://www.skoda.co.uk/_doc/0bcfc2d5-654f-49b2-a524-91e141293e36
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Interesting - where did you find that?
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6 hours ago, silver1011 said:
AUTOCAR have just published this, with some pricing. Brace yourself!
There's something on the Skoda website too (probably where Autocar got it from):
https://www.skoda.co.uk/news/details/uk-specification-and-pricing-confirmed-for-all-new-skoda-kodiaq- 1
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37 minutes ago, dan245 said:
It was introduced to mark the coronation - See here
Ah thanks for that - I didn't know that.
Which probably means they won't do it for a huge length more time though - I see the new Superb SEL already doesn't have that colour in the configurator.
I'm still hoping they may bring a PHEV model back to the Octavia, but I guess that even if they do do it, that green colour will have gone by then.
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As one who likes a green car, I'd be tempted by something in "Royal Green Metallic".
Is that a new colour to Skoda or has it appeared on other models?
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20 hours ago, 26DIPP said:
I have just clicked through the configuration. When did that appear online?????
I noticed it on 12 March:
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On 15/03/2024 at 18:37, cheezemonkhai said:
I’m waiting for an estate …
with 800v batteries.
If Skoda brought out an EV estate with decent range they could probably just take my money. Even without 800V.
Something like the ID7 tourer but perhaps a class down - more Octavia-sized than Superb-sized - would be perfect for me.
I know Skoda have said they will have some sort of "Combi" EV "by 2026" but given Skoda have a good reputation for estates, and the EV estate market isn't exactly flooded, I'm hoping they're aiming at a sooner timescale than that.- 3
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On 12/03/2024 at 18:44, DavidY said:
I see the new Superbs are now visible in the UK version of the configurator:
https://cc.skoda-auto.com/gbr/en-gb?pagegroup=Website&salesprogram=GBR&type=Car configurator
PHEV versions don't seem to be available there yet though?
It's not obvious from the Download a Brochure page, which still shows a picture of the old Superb, but there's now a UK brochure for the new Superb as well:
https://www.skoda.co.uk/_doc/71165c49-62c5-4f74-b29a-be6ad40d7373- 2
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I see the new Superbs are now visible in the UK version of the configurator:
https://cc.skoda-auto.com/gbr/en-gb?pagegroup=Website&salesprogram=GBR&type=Car configurator
PHEV versions don't seem to be available there yet though?
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Yes I noticed the other day there are some Enyaq 80s looking really cheap - AutoTrader has one with delivery mileage for sub-£30K, and some others not much more.
I've been considering what to get to replace my Octavia (over 10 years old now) and was thinking about waiting for an updated version (Enyaq 85) or even one of the new PHEVs - especially if they did an Octavia Estate PHEV.
I'm also not sure what you lose between a new 85 and an old 80
But a £30K price tag is a little bit tempting...