Spacebacker

How about a car which doesn't have a full dealer history? I'm guessing they can use that as a reason. If so, the possible pool of cars available which meet that criteria at >5 years old is going to be small! Waiting for the car to "perforate" within the 12 years is an interesting game. This looks like being one of the first things to check on all these cars now. We had been considering earlier cars up to 2014. For our use (12k miles a year, year around in all conditions) I tend to think we'd be looking at this being a problem at some point.

This issue seems to be more common now, as you'd expect as time goes by and cars get older. As far as I can tell, the preventative measure of fitting the arch liners was only done on the VW Up! for facelift models (as a "product enhancement") and so anything else, especially an earlier car, needs to be approached with caution. Newer cars could have some remedial work and preventative measures but for older cars it may be too late. I am wondering how willing VAG are to step up and address the issue under warranty as there seem to be very mixed experiences for owner who have raised it and if every car starts to suffer they could be taking a big hit? It appears the full fix is about £1k to implement. Given it's a 12 year warranty every car is in scope. Finding decent cars is always tricky, this little feature adds a further complication and depending on the above makes me wonder whether to call off the search. If this issue is a question of "when" and not "if" then it's really off-putting.

I'm still digging. I've found an engine number for the cut in of the updated chain. As follows: Production change Optimised timing chain from engine number: • CBZ* 462774 (Mlada Boleslav). • CBZ* 714253 (Salzgitter)

Yes, thanks. My hope was to find a reference such that I could establish the transition date and the chassis number of the cars when it cut in. I have found that dealers cannot answer the question of which engine is fitted so I need to do my own research.

Not so much concerned about the refinement, more about the engine's propensity to eat itself and the manufacturer's response to such an event if it happened. Edit. From what I've read, perhaps I'm looking for two cut in numbers: 1. The CZJ engine (which you've suggested is week 22 of 2015) 2. The more robust CBZ A/B with different timing chain components (which seems to be sometime late 2013?).

Hi, Further to the below: I've tried to find a cut in number for the latest twin cam, belt driven engine for the Rapid and Spaceback but have had no luck. Can someone help out with a chassis number, build date or similar please? Thanks (Apologies for the cross post, I'm trying to home in on the information).

Is the Wikipedia info correct then? Does anyone have chassis number cut ins for the CJZ on the Rapid please? I'm now back to assuming they're Mk3 only on the Fabia. Also, all this in the knowledge that if the recall work was completed the timing chain engines should be OK.

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For further info. I've been reading threads like this one: https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/252849-12-tsi-timing-chain-recall/ This info is from Wikipedia (the dealer's info. is contrary to this, obviously). 1.2 TSI 63 kW 2010–2014 CBZA (EA111) 1197 ccm, I4, 8V, OHC, TSI, turbocharged 63 kW(86 PS; 85 hp) at 4800 rpm 1.2 TSI 77 kW 2010–2014 CBZB (EA111) 1197 ccm, I4, 8V, OHC, TSI, turbocharged 77 kW (105 PS; 103 hp) at 5000 rpm

George, Thanks for your reply. It's a main dealer........ Thanks

Hi, Newbie here. I am considering Fabia Estates and Rapid Spacebacks around 2013 and 2014 with the 1.2TSi engines. Having done research on this site, reading numerous threads about camchains and failures I thought I was now informed in my choices. However, some certain things have now confused me. Looking at a 2013 Fabia 85bhp 1.2 TSi manufactured in Q1 2013 I thought it would be fitted with the CZA SOHC chain engine. I asked the dealer and he said it has a cambelt. Can someone please point me in the direction of a site which allows be to check the build details by chassis number or a table of engine type by date? Assuming the dealer is right, references such as Wikipedia are wrong? Thanks in advance,