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Almost new Kodiaq - strange “rattling” sound when disengaging clutch after a quick acceleration while in 1st gear or reverse
When was this, if I may ask? Because yesterday I got an answer from Skoda service partner that there may be a fix for this from Skoda, but it is not known when. I am not sure if I believe this, so I wonder how long do they know about this issue. If a long time has passed since you reported this issue, then it is less likely they are working on a fix this long...
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Almost new Kodiaq - strange “rattling” sound when disengaging clutch after a quick acceleration while in 1st gear or reverse
Here is what I got in a written document from my Škoda Service Partner today (translated to English): "After a detailed analysis of the repotred sounds (video from the service workshop and customer video), feedback from the manufacturer's technical service was received in which the occurrence of rattling in the area of power transmission is not considered a technical defect. The functions of the clutch and transmission assembly are not interfered with and meet the requirements of the manufacturer. Due to the construction of the vehicle, it is important to emphasize that by replacing the power transmission parts, the sound will not be removed with the current production parameters. The manufacturer's documentation recorded this phenomenon from the point of view of comfort." I am out of options for now...
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Almost new Kodiaq - strange “rattling” sound when disengaging clutch after a quick acceleration while in 1st gear or reverse
I found another video about the noise this DMF CPA makes: It is almost identical to what I am hearing in my scenario. I am having trouble finding online information whether this DMF is fitted in Kodiaqs from 2021. From what I gathered they first started fitting them in BMW from 2018, and then in VW, Škoda, Audi and Seat. It would be fantastic is someone could confirm this is the case for new Kodiaqs? If so, there is nothing that can be done. It is ridiculous that manufacturers go to such extents to develop this kind of technology just to squeeze out a few more percent of power for same fuel consumption. Which ultimately results in parts with questionable duration and adds up to shorter life span and even more waste produced... I've also asked my Service Partner to confirm this.
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Almost new Kodiaq - strange “rattling” sound when disengaging clutch after a quick acceleration while in 1st gear or reverse
As much as I enjoyed reading your post, it is beyond me to comprehend it completely without educating myself greatly in the matters that are just too much for me to understand. To promote the discussion further, I am adding one more video that peaked my interest, which I found in the previously quoted thread: This is the operation of DMF with centrifugalna pendulum, and the sound that can be heard when the pendulum parts are moving when shown dissesembeled is much similar to the one I am hearing when declutching. Are these engines even equiped with this type of DMF, could this be the culprit? In the end, all I want to know is if my car is operating as intended and safely...
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Almost new Kodiaq - strange “rattling” sound when disengaging clutch after a quick acceleration while in 1st gear or reverse
It seems this thread is the same issue: https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/483762-clutch-pedal-noise/
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Clutch Pedal Noise
Hi, How did you case of this ratteling clutch sound end up? I have the same issue, Kodiaq bought 04/2021, only 7300 km. Here is the thread I started, before finding yours:
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Almost new Kodiaq - strange “rattling” sound when disengaging clutch after a quick acceleration while in 1st gear or reverse
I am not sure I understood everything you just wrote... But the sound (in my case), that I am having issue with, is heard ONLY when declutching - to avoid wording confusion, this is when I am stepping with my foot on the clutch pedal (more pronounced if this operation is quick and if I am in 1st gear or reverse while doing so). The sound is identical to that best heard in the second video of my previous post from 1:16 to 1:25 (and also from 1:11 to 1:13 in his driving test). It has nothing to do with acceleration-deacceleration...
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Almost new Kodiaq - strange “rattling” sound when disengaging clutch after a quick acceleration while in 1st gear or reverse
Two videos were brought to my attention: Both videos show EXACTLY the same issue (sound) as described in my case. All got the same answer as me... Comments under the videos report the same behavior in VW, Skoda and Audi.
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Almost new Kodiaq - strange “rattling” sound when disengaging clutch after a quick acceleration while in 1st gear or reverse
Ok, I did some further testing just now... First off, I myself tried the test J.R. recommended (starting in 1st and disengaging clutch - pressing clutch pedal while the handbrake is on). As suspected, the rattling sound is clearly heard. Second test was recording while normal driving from 1st gear start to 2nd gear and then to 3rd gear. The sound is heard every time I press the clutch pedal to change gears. It is heard less when going from 2nd to 3rd, since the DMF is under less stress, but it can clearly be heard with the window open and no other ambient sound present. Sound is louder if I press the clutch pedal more quickly (for instance while parking, during quick start-stop, or in case of emergency braking). I am attaching videos from these tests. So, after these tests, upon further reading, and after valuable advices from forum members in this topic, the main suspect in my mind is now clutch DMF. Does everyone agree? Are there any further suggestions? It is beyond reason, that I myself with the help of the forum members and internet reading need to do this kind of diagnostics (24 hours ago I had very limited knowledge of the car engine workings), while an official Skoda Service Partner had to make a phone call to higher-up level of regional Skoda Technical Service, and was served an answer (acceptable behavior of gearbox) which he bluntly accepted and dismissed my case. And he had a car on a test drive and in the garage shop for about an hour! If and when I do get a proper diagnostic and warranty acceptance, I now feel less than comfortable to leave my car is such "capable" hands for what seems a rather complicated repair. VIDEO-2021-10-02-13-59-31 handbrake.mp4 VIDEO-2021-10-02-13-59-31 shifting1-2-3.mp4
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Almost new Kodiaq - strange “rattling” sound when disengaging clutch after a quick acceleration while in 1st gear or reverse
OK, i taught the wording engage-disengage the clutch meant the opposite. Most googled answers have it wrong as well. But in fact this is confused with the clutch pedal. So engaging (pressing) the clutch pedal in fact disengages the clutch itself. Makes perfect sense of course. Most people (including me up until now) have this two wording mixed up.
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Almost new Kodiaq - strange “rattling” sound when disengaging clutch after a quick acceleration while in 1st gear or reverse
Sorry, maybe I missunderstood, so just to make sure... When you say "taking up the drive with handbrake engaged...", do you mean to turn on handbrake, then engage (press) the clutch, shift into 1st gear, add gas by slowly releasing the clutch, and then quickly engaging (pressing) the clutch just before the car stalls? Because now that I read your post again, the last part of your sentence "quickly declutching" confused me. Declutching would normaly mean to release the clutch, but I think you meant the opposite, it makes no sense otherwise. Or am I missundestanding you completely?
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Almost new Kodiaq - strange “rattling” sound when disengaging clutch after a quick acceleration while in 1st gear or reverse
This has been tried as I witnessed in the independed shop I visited just after the Skoda Shop, and yes, the same sound was heard.
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Almost new Kodiaq - strange “rattling” sound when disengaging clutch after a quick acceleration while in 1st gear or reverse
They didn't say "all", but rather that "it has already been documented".
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Almost new Kodiaq - strange “rattling” sound when disengaging clutch after a quick acceleration while in 1st gear or reverse
I am having trouble finding direct Skoda Service contatcs other than those in my country, which already had car in inspection. Any help here, please? What is appaling is that the Skoda Service mechanic in Zagreb didn't find an answer he got on the phone as "communication error" and accepted it without the urge to better explain. He drove the car around the parking and heard the same thing that is on the video, and was not compelled to escalate the issue. He even told me to be prepared to "live with it".
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Almost new Kodiaq - strange “rattling” sound when disengaging clutch after a quick acceleration while in 1st gear or reverse
Thank you for a very informed and thought out response. Everything you said makes perfect sense. All I can do is wait and see what an "official" written answer will be, hoping the video that I forwarded to my Servise Partner will reach the people in charge with knowledge. As for accelerating in first gear when climbing a curb, I add as much (or as little) as needed to step on it, not more excessive than needed. And the sound is still well heard. I have 20 years of driving experience with my previous car done about 200.000 km over 15 years without any repair needed other than scheduled oil, belt and brake disks exchange. Above video is an exaggeration, not even close to my normal driving style, but I purposely recorded it while driving like that to make the point of when and how the rattling is exibited.
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