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No problem this is what i'm all the time talking about. ANC in the car is about engine noise

If you read the article, every car there has quite the same: "Of course, another strong contributor to a quiet cabin is the Active Noise Control. It generates noise-canceling sound from four door speakers and the subwoofer to reduce unpleasant engine harmonics."

Which one? You cannot do NC on random noise even with mics. It would work only in ear/Headphones where the inverted signal can be produced in time when the noise is passing the sound actuator. In a car you'd like to foresee the noise, as the inverted signal has also the traveltime to our ears so it is for predictable noise like engine sound.

Reindeer fur?? LOL Fur sure it changes the sound. Reflections and dampening. Nothing to do with noise cancelling. The sound ingeneer who designed the accoustic Canton setup in the Superb is a good friend of mine. He would know if there was any NC.

Canton is a DSP amp. Previously you switched only the output of the MIB to the internal amplifier or the DSP. With MIB2 and 2,5 this should be still possible. Users on MIB3 cannot switch for some reason as the connection is via Ethernet

well, what about this one? so there are already three discussions about sound in a car with your judgement on car hifi systems okay, the lowest note on a grand piano is 27,5Hz, biggest pipe in a church organ is 8Hz. Real world.

exactly. The point is not being loud, but going deep, and this already on small signal level. Excelent reply and explanations, by the way.

I do not have time and need to search all your "comments". There was the same "conversation" on the previous audio topic I was involved in. So you must be an old man with no clue I'm not sure you are much older, but anyway, the technical progress didn't stop in your mid 20ies. regarding your question about power - due to limited space the speakers are designed to work in small enclosures, so you need normally a little bit more power to operate. You can go loud, but mostly it is about impulse response. More power to control the membrane. I'm curious, if your high quality efficient home speakers can produce significant output below 40 Hz and your 70ies amp doesn't have significant noise and distortion levels messing up the highs. Checked for the TEAC: 0.1% on 100mW and 0,25% on 30W like new. Don't know what's like 50 years later, but I bet, not better. The AMP I'm using has distortion level down to 0,0025%, and 106dB signal to noise level, it produces chrystal clear sound. https://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/af428c4b-c71c-442d-98a7-f9ad190f0b10/ve1300.11sp_ch.de.en.pdf

@brettikivimy system was previously an esx DSP on top of Canton, channelwise processing, a musway eight100, Eton csp16 and Eton Onyx mid in OEM places, Sub a 2*5" Eton Sub in BR enclosure Tuned to 28 Hz Now i have an esx DSP Amp, a esx vx2000 mono Amp and 3*Arc 8 in sealed enclosure on the same Front, but mids and tweeter in a pillar. I sum up the Canton with a JBL fix82 for DAB tuner and do direct streaming via USB for the Android

@brettikivimy system was previously an esx DSP on top of Canton, channelwise processing, a musway eight100, Eton csp16 and Eton Onyx mid in OEM places, Sub a 2*5" Eton Sub in BR enclosure Tuned to 28 Hz Now i have an esx DSP Amp, a esx vx2000 mono Amp and 3*Arc 8 in sealed enclosure on the same Front, but mids and tweeter in a pillar. I sum up the Canton with a JBL fix82 for DAB tuner and do direct streaming via USB for the Android

Well, I know this because I measured the electric output of all channels. There is a 12db subsonic at 30hz and low pass at 50 or 60 The sub channels are not bridgeable, just to bei sure. It can be enough, but the levels do not match.

@Paikesejanku sure it does. But the noise filter is causing some weird distortion, independent of the source @Wacholek cannot imagine that the same amp is used in other VAG with noise cancelling. You need also several mics with corresponding input jacks and a lot of processing power. your subbass and kickbass will outperform the mids and highs by far. you have to add some kind of signal level regulation or use high efficient mids and tweeters. It's going to be hard to match all them together. Also not sure if the sub out would handle the heavy 10" 4 ohm subs. I used 2 5" subs with 4 ohms each and it worked, but it's already far beyond specs. After all I ended up replacing all the front speakers and using a DSP processing all the channels and aftermarket AMP to repower them,

There is no noise cancelling technology in the Superb. Simply not implemented. you also don't have a chance to use it to eliminate road noise as this kind of noise is not predictable. @MartiniBIn my opinion the issue is not the BT codec but the Canton amplifier. It has some compression/noise filter @WacholekHow are you planning to compensate the level of the 4 Ohm bass speakers which are then significantly louder than the 8 ohm OEM? Also, how do you achieve the sub going deeper than 30Hz if there is a high pass filter in the sub signal? @brettikivi Canton sounds great when you adjust the focus to the driver and put the fader to the front. all other settings are a more or less faulty compromise. @numskull you always put comments like this in the audio threads. You just don't have any clue how a good made car can sound.

well, in the case you have passengers in the back you could activate dolby surround. far from optimal sound for the driver, but overall acceptable.

@Paikesejanku the sound should come from the front. You have the rear tweeters very close to the ears so it would distort the sound stage if they are too loud. If you have Canton, the channels are filtered. So it simply cannot work. regardless if you take a coaxial or just a woofer. The signal is trimmed. In front doors, if you have only 1 channel than you don't have Canton at all. with Canton the front doors are equipped with a woofer, a mid and a tweeter. All three are supplied with separate filtered channels.