Hi Ive been looking to transplant a different power unit into my car. Ive heard that there is a adapter plate from the felicia that will adapt a vw engine to your standard 5 speed rear engine transaxle? Ive heard from two different sources that you should use the 1.9 diesel adapter plate but from another thread that i should use the 1.6 diesel adapter plate? Anybody have any ideas or experience would be much appreciated for any answers.

thank you

Phil

there is a 1.6 petrol plate whitch will match all the "small block" engines

the 1.9 diesel plate will match all the "bigger block" vw engines.

just be carefull about how much vw pig iron you shuv in the back as they are all cast steel blocks.

tempting so i could theoretically put a polo g40 block in the back? I realise its going to be a bit more heavy which is a shame but I don't want to go down the road where I have to manufacture my own plate as I think this may be to much work for my small workshop! Ive seen people on youtube with the vw engine in back and it goes like hot snot.

Thanks for the help pinkskud! Much appreciatted

tempting so i could theoretically put a polo g40 block in the back? I realise its going to be a bit more heavy which is a shame but I don't want to go down the road where I have to manufacture my own plate as I think this may be to much work for my small workshop! Ive seen people on youtube with the vw engine in back and it goes like hot snot.

Thanks for the help pinkskud! Much appreciatted

Mine used to go quite well too, cept for all the locking up problems on the lighter front end, imagine this will be worse with a heavier back end. bit of weight relocation proves useful (Fuel Tank / Battery etc). also use of emergency 'bag of sand'.

Rgs

EDIT. Also now remember i used to run the front dampers two settings softer then the rears.

Edited 18 October, 200916 yr by Dor
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whichever you use you will need the flywheel and clutch from the car you get the adaptor plate from. ie the clutch and flywheel are specific to the 1.6 and 1.9 units respectively, you wont be able to use a 1300 flywheel because they only have 4 mounting bolts and the offset for the starter ring gear is different

felicia 1.6 adaptor plate on vw polo 1.4-16v (afh) engine... the adaptor plate bolts onto the engine block BEFORE the flywheel, you must use capscews(allen key head bolts) so that the heads are flush with the plate

felicia 1.9 diesel adaptor plate on vw 2.0 crossflow unit (aqy)

shown on engine for illustration only!! the 1.9 adaptor plate bolts to the gearbox, before the gearbox goes on the engine.

1.9 diesel adaptor plate on 1300 felicia gearbox

if you are going for a larger engine. ie 1800 or 2000cc unit you may have to modify the sump to allow clearance for the cv joints in a transverse application, but i guess as it's for a 130 it will be a rear in-line application so you wont have an issue with it

Edited 18 October, 200916 yr by TeflonTom

edit: sorry that bottom pic is a 1600cc felicia gearbox but it makes no odds as they both share the same transmission casing anyhow...

also just went out and had a look at some bits i've got lying about to jog my memory.. you will need to unscew 2 of the studs from your gearbox if you use a 1.9 diesel adaptor plate, and replace them with 2 allen key (capscrew) bolts that go down flush with the adaptor plate... it will be obvious when you go to do it

Please tell me youre not thinking of doing this to a 110r?!?!

Please tell me youre not thinking of doing this to a 110r?!?!

yeah!! you might make it work

Yeh its a 110r, but its being fitted with a thick thick rollcage. Also buying some replica 130rs rear wishbones, has got the more modern five speed and have found someone that will do the skoda 130 LR stengthened driveshafts. Basically im wanting to make a hillclimbing car. I don't think i will be able to get it on the road already as its a replica 130rs and czech are very strict on there MOT all parts must be original otherwise nothing goes through! Cars are meant to be used :-)! Not looked at!

Not bad for a lad who's 19 hey! haha

Thanks for all the help Teflon Tom!

i would go for something cheap and easy to get hold of like an engine from a mk3 golf gti 2.0 8v

Yeh im currently doing the ebay thing looking for a mk3 engine may even go for the 16v. Or by the 8v and eventually modify her to the turbo?!?! My dad was saying the 16v was lighter as it had a lot of plastic parts.

This is my inspiration:

the guy himself has fitted a 1.8 vw engine. And he has other videos of himself wooping a 4wd subaru! Cant be a bouncing Czech! Haha

Thanks

yeah!! you might make it work

I think you might belong on the VW based pages of this forum (heathen!!:rotz:)

Filip 130RS Its a shame to mess with a rare car like the S110r, but if it genuinely cant be put back on the road cause youre in CZ then I guess at least youre saving it.

I think you might belong on the VW based pages of this forum

:orb_flami yep

Yeh but the car is a rear engined skoda? Plus even the favorit engine was later developed and refined by VW. Skoda even raced fiat based cars and lada based cars during the 70's and 80's wo what the matter with mentionins a vw engine ?

i dont know what the fuss is about, the vw engines are much more reliable and they are better engineered than the old rattle box skoda engines. the only downside is that they are heavier as most vw engines have a cast iron block

Yeh but the car is a rear engined skoda? Plus even the favorit engine was later developed and refined by VW. Skoda even raced fiat based cars and lada based cars during the 70's and 80's wo what the matter with mentionins a vw engine ?

....he was having a dig at the S110r engine....which there is nothing wrong with, its just a typical older small capacity engine.

i dont know what the fuss is about, the vw engines are much more reliable and they are better engineered than the old rattle box skoda engines. the only downside is that they are heavier as most vw engines have a cast iron block

They are also from a different era and a different type of engine. Now shooo.....back to your bland modern euro boxes!

.....back to your bland modern euro boxes!

ahem:rotz: my felicia pickup reminds me of a roller skate

i dont know what the fuss is about, the vw engines are much more reliable and they are better engineered than the old rattle box skoda engines. the only downside is that they are heavier as most vw engines have a cast iron block

:)VW do indeed make very well engineered engines, but I don't agree that they are more reliable than the old Skoda engine. Yes, the old pushrod engine is old fashioned, but that doesn't make it unreliable. Just one example is my Bugrat kit car's Skoda engine. It's 21 years old, has covered nearly 200,000 miles and has been thrashed lots! The head gasket and timing chain have been replaced, but that's all. It has been well serviced though.

VW have done Skoda a lot of good in general which I'm sure most of us are greatful for, though I guess that's not the issue here.

I love the old Skodas, especially the 110R. Unfortunately they are pretty rare these days so I must admit to being a bit of an old fart and think they are best left original or at least somewhere near. However...it's also really nice to see that young people appreciate old Skodas and are keeping them on the road...modified or not! It wasn't often the case 20 years ago.

Hopefully my opinions won't offend...they aren't meant to.

i'm not offended dave, it's nice to have some constructive banter... now if you compare a skoda 1300 engine to something more similar like a type 840 renault pushrod engine i suppose it does become clear that the skoda ones are far better in every way. in my exuberant days when i was churning round in a gordini turbo 5 i would liken that to something akin to a pressure cooker, i had the head off it roughly every 4 months, in the end it was the unavailability of the cylinder liners which sent it to scrap. i sorely regret that now mind you considering the price old gordini's go for now

in regards to the 110r what is the technical differences between that and a later engine in a favorit?? i seem to remember reading somewhere that the intake manifold sits at a slightly different angle to to the transverse application??

i do however agree in that some cases a car is far better with original stuff in there especially classic or rare ones, but i guess that in the case of the OP if it is no longer able to be 'roadworthy' then fitting something like a 2.0 vw engine is a fairly cheap and easy way of upping the power stakes without spending a small fortune on modifying the original engine especially considering all the hard bits such as joining up the engine to the transmission has been done for you using off-the-shelf parts from a felicia

:)Going slightly off topic here, the OP has asked for advice and here we are discussing the "morals" of it rather than helping!

Filip, are you making changes to the suspension? The handling of the RWD Skodas with the narrow track swing axle set up is a bit "driver skill testing", especially in the wet. I would be concerned about how the extra rear weight bias and power would affect the handling. I say that to help, not to put you off...honestly!

Tom, the old pushrod engine was updated as time went on, the main differences between the original MB1000 to the similar looking Fabia 8 valve engine are a proper full flow lubrication system and an alloy 8 port cylinder head instead of the earlier cast iron 5 port item. There are lots of other smaller differences as well as the obvious fuel and igntion system updates. The engine was mounted at a different angle depending on wether mounted in the front or rear...hence the different angle of the manifold to allow the carb/throttle body to sit level.

ahem:rotz: my felicia pickup reminds me of a roller skate

It looks like one too:). I too had a R5 Gordini....no problem with the cylinder head...but it did its big ends with less than 50k on the clock which wasnt ideal! (then again Ive had that with a Skud pushrod too). VW did little for the Skoda pushrod engine other than extend its life...but I believe they did so because they were quite impressed by it. I could be wrong of course and it could just have been because it was cheap!

ok back on topic, does the 130rs have fuel injection or is it carb only?

skoda estelle rapid 105 120 130 backing plate on eBay (end time 26-Oct-09 18:30:18 GMT)

An already made up kit for the good old eyetie twink! Imagine it with a Lancia Integrale turbo twink engine.

i reckon a 2.0 alfa t spark engine would go a treat in there too with that kit