I'm looking for the technical differences between an Octavia hatch greenline and greenline 2. The dealer (who is trying to sell a low-mileage Greenline given the long wait on new cars) seemed totally unsure what differences there would be short of mumbling something about the engine management system.

Can anybody please point me to a list of some details?

I could be wrong, but maybe the original ones had the 1.9 engine and the new ones have the 1.6CR engine.

I could be wrong, but maybe the original ones had the 1.9 engine and the new ones have the 1.6CR engine.

there are 3 greenlines, greenline 1= 1.9tdi, greenline 2 =1.6tdi, 2011 greenline 2 = 1.6tdi with the new engine management, more aero tweaks and start stop system, the result on the 2011 greenline is extra 10mpg combined and the road falls from £30 a year to £0

so greenline 1 was pre facelift so all these are over a year old now

greenline 2 was upto end of 2010

greenline 2011 was all cars ordered as of Dec 2010 so none on road in the uk yet.

hope this helps, i got some info on them somewhere if you want it.

Edited 1 January, 201115 yr by markmi

there are 3 greenlines, greenline 1= 1.9tdi, greenline 2 =1.6tdi, 2011 greenline 2 = 1.6tdi with the new engine management, more aero tweaks and start stop system, the result on the 2011 greenline is extra 10mpg combined and the road falls from £30 a year to £0

so greenline 1 was pre facelift so all these are over a year old now

greenline 2 was upto end of 2010

greenline 2011 was all cars ordered as of Dec 2010 so none on road in the uk yet.

hope this helps, i got some info on them somewhere if you want it.

Nice one - I suspect that it is the Greenline 2 (pre-Dec) rather than the Greenline 1 but at least I know what to look for now.

the result on the 2011 greenline is extra 10mpg combined and the road falls from £30 a year to £0

I think you ought to add "a claimed" between "is" and "extra", because if my experience in the Greenline 1.6CR is anything to go by, the Skoda fuel consumption figures may have been written down by Ken Dodd's accountant.

I think you ought to add "a claimed" between "is" and "extra", because if my experience in the Greenline 1.6CR is anything to go by, the Skoda fuel consumption figures may have been written down by Ken Dodd's accountant.

2011 Greenline 2 has over and above the previous model, break energy regeneration, and stop start, (similar to BMW's efficient dynamics) previous car and this one had over an SE, low energy tyres, lowered suspension and some other bits but thats the main of it. There is at least one on the road in the UK that I am aware of. Beware though, I have a 1.6 TDI SE on order and enquired about changing to the new 2011 greenline 2 and was told that the Greenline 2 is not the same drive my salesman has driven one and stated he would want me to drive one before changing my order. It is more noisy at idle, probably due to the tweaks in the engine bay,and on the road probably because the greenline has less soundproofing to save weight at least thats what I read somewhere, and does not handle the same, probably down to the tyres and lowered suspension. All in all get a test drive, I would still have probably changed even so with the rocketing fuel prices, if it were not for the fact I was told it wold delay my order even more that is has been so far, looking at a 6 month plus time frame on my order as is!

With that said the actual economy you will get is down to your driving and your route. I currently have a Pegeot 308 1.6HDI 90 Sport (CO2 = 120g) and every day get at least 70MPG sometimes I touch 80. My route to work is a straight rural single carriageway A road all the way for 25 miles. Short journeys mean th engine will be less likey to get up to temperature and run at its best I notice a difference in the summer over the winter for instance (Town drivers may be better off with a petrol Hybrid). Also smooth driving and informed gear changes help a lot. I get up into 2nd as quick as possible then jump to 4th then stay in 5th the rest of th way. Heavy breaking will waste fuel you have used to get up to speed so anticipate your next move so that you don't race up to a red light or roundabout etc......Lastly if it is not needed switch it off, air con, heated rear window etc.....

Edited 26 January, 201115 yr by joela

As Joela says, essential to get a test drive. If you look at the reviews (Autocar, Auto Express etc) of Octavia Greenline about 12 months ago you will see they are not entirely complimentary. Things like the high gearing which help to push up the economy can make it unpleasant to drive. Have you done the calculation to see what the supposed mpg improvement over the 1.6 Elegance diesel (which will be quieter, easier to drive etc) really makes in terms of your anticipated mileage? Of course mpg is important, but there is no point in spending upwards of £15K on a car to have a disappointing drive.

As Joela says, essential to get a test drive. If you look at the reviews (Autocar, Auto Express etc) of Octavia Greenline about 12 months ago you will see they are not entirely complimentary. Things like the high gearing which help to push up the economy can make it unpleasant to drive. Have you done the calculation to see what the supposed mpg improvement over the 1.6 Elegance diesel (which will be quieter, easier to drive etc) really makes in terms of your anticipated mileage? Of course mpg is important, but there is no point in spending upwards of £15K on a car to have a disappointing drive.

I'd agree with this, especially as the Greenline II is only a few quid short of £20k now by the time you've got the metallic paint on it.

Now my Greenline has >20k miles on the clock, I'm really enjoying it; the flexibility of the CR engine (aboue 2,000RPM anyway) is astonishing. I know I keep going on and on about it though, the consumption of this one is not as good as my Mk1 1.9TDi Elegance, and I'm consequently finding I'm driving more slowly.

My Mk1 1.9 averaged over 50 with me driving it without worrying about economy, the Greenline is averaging about 47 with me deliberately taking it gently. And I can't imagine I'd get substantially better if I unhooked the alternator (which is the biggest change on the Greenline II as I understand it,) The stop start probably wouldn't impact me that much as most of my driving is out of town and my commuting is typically when everyone else is still in bed.

Of course, if the engine tweaks - which i assume are a remap - make a significant difference, I'd welcome trying that map on my car.

I'd agree with this, especially as the Greenline II is only a few quid short of £20k now by the time you've got the metallic paint on it.

Now my Greenline has >20k miles on the clock, I'm really enjoying it; the flexibility of the CR engine (aboue 2,000RPM anyway) is astonishing. I know I keep going on and on about it though, the consumption of this one is not as good as my Mk1 1.9TDi Elegance, and I'm consequently finding I'm driving more slowly.

My Mk1 1.9 averaged over 50 with me driving it without worrying about economy, the Greenline is averaging about 47 with me deliberately taking it gently. And I can't imagine I'd get substantially better if I unhooked the alternator (which is the biggest change on the Greenline II as I understand it,) The stop start probably wouldn't impact me that much as most of my driving is out of town and my commuting is typically when everyone else is still in bed.

Of course, if the engine tweaks - which i assume are a remap - make a significant difference, I'd welcome trying that map on my car.

47mpg on a greenline, i get 55 to 60 mpg on my 1.6CR elegance over 6k and thats brim to brim not the maxidot, maxidot is reading 59.6mpg overall.

47mpg on a greenline, i get 55 to 60 mpg on my 1.6CR elegance over 6k and thats brim to brim not the maxidot, maxidot is reading 59.6mpg overall.

I'd love to get that!

I'd love to get that!

its all down to how you drive

its all down to how you drive

Based on some of my mpg high scores in the past I reckon I can drive pretty economically.

So, I've got rid of any unnecessary rubbish from the boot, I've ditched the VRS wheels in favour of the narrower Greenline alloys with the Michelin eco-tyres, I've set the tyres pressures and had the tracking checked and adjusted (it was a little out). And I've washed and waxed it to cut down wind resistance.

And then gone out driving in a particularly economical manner - gentle acceleration, setting the cruise at 50 in a 60 limit and 55-60 in a 70. Looking well ahead and slowing on the throttle and the gears rather than on the brakes and trying to avoid stopping if possible. Over the last couple of days I've managed to average 56mpg, but that's all been out of town and on dual carriageways so no stop start traffic etc. I'm surea couple of commutes with some (steady) town driving will see that drop to near 50.

How on earth are you managing 59 *average*? If you commuted down hill on a quiet motorway at 50 and commuted back home also down hill on the same quiet motorway at the same speed then maybe...

i drive mine pretty hard, carry alot of weighty kit in the boot, have a beacon and roof bars on top, and get around 47-48mpg and im very happy with that, i have tried the drive like an old lady sytle, and managed to get around 52mpg, but got bored and went back to normal.