I'm wanting to get my vRS lowered with a set of springs.

 

I know the Eibach set is a dealer-fit option which I could go for risk-free, but I wondered what the implications to the warranty are if I get a different set of springs fitted elsewhere (not at a franchised dealer) ?

 

Thanks!

Well I got my eibachs footed by dealer at new, so same 3 year warrenty ( one year apparently of not fitted at new) and I accept I've lost the warrenty on my rear suspension by fitting an anti roll bar, unless my dealer is very sympathetic! My old fiat dealer didn't care that I'd remapped the car and honoured the warrenty anyway... So depends on the dealer really...

Can't think that fitting a rear ARB would induce anything on the rear suspension to wear out quicker .. ?

Anyway,if,say, the rear shocks went floppy in the warranty period I'd remove the bar before taking the car in to the dealers.

If your Dampers went floppy after a few thousand miles they would probably not be a Warranty item anyway.

 (Exclusions 'Wear & Tear'.) Or even just by being over 6 months/6500 miles.

 

If you are uprating with shorter/progressive springs & spending on ARB's you would surely just splash the cash and uprate the dampers.

 

http://www.skoda.co.uk/SiteCollectionDocuments/Brochures/Warranty-Booklet-single.pdf

 

george

If your Dampers went floppy after a few thousand miles they would probably not be a Warranty item anyway

. (Exclusions 'Wear & Tear'.) Or even just by being over 6 months/6500 miles.

 

If you are uprating with shorter/progresive  springs & spending on ARB's you would surely just splash the cash and uprate the dampers.

 

http://www.skoda.co.uk/SiteCollectionDocuments/Brochures/Warranty-Booklet-single.pdf

 

george

I think the wear and tear exclusions only apply after the first two years,or am I reading it wrong?

In any case,I would like to think there would be some flexibilty here regarding mileage.

For example a 2.5 year old car with only 10k miles I would expect leaking shocks to be replaced under warranty,the same age car with say 55k miles on the clock would be a different thing.

That might be the case with many Dealers & might be written some place, some are helpful. i just read as written.

Manufacturing faults etc. Get dealt with as a Warranty case.

 

"Items where the lifetime of the component is or can be influenced

by driving style or external factors will only be considered under the 

terms of the warranty for a period of six months or 6,500 miles.

(which ever is soonest.)"

That might be the case with many Dealers & might be written some place, some are helpful. i just read as written.

Manufacturing faults etc. Get dealt with as a Warranty case.

 

"Items where the lifetime of the component is or can be influenced

by driving style or external factors will only be considered under the 

terms of the warranty for a period of six months or 6,500 miles.

(which ever is soonest.)"

Yes,George,but is that not in the section that relates to the third year of warranty only?

OK, but i believe it says the same in the other countries where they only have a 2 year warranty.

then.

"Mechanical adjustment after six months or 6,500 miles are also excluded from the warranty cover such as" ......ect

 

Academic anyway,

it only matters if there are problems coming from fitting springs correctly, and that is unlikely.

 

george

 

If you are uprating with shorter/progressive springs & spending on ARB's you would surely just splash the cash and uprate the dampers.

 

george

 

Not quite the same I'd say. I've put on the H&R's plus a rear ARB, all for something around 300 euros (~250 GBP) and it has made quite a huge improvement to the handling already. Dampers are surely tempting but we are talking at least twice the previous amount for any decent brand...

OK, but i believe it says the same in the other countries where they only have a 2 year warranty.

then.

"Mechanical adjustment after six months or 6,500 miles are also excluded from the warranty cover such as" ......ect

 

Academic anyway,

it only matters if there are problems coming from fitting springs correctly, and that is unlikely.

 

george

I agree the mechanical adjusment exclusion applies to the first six months and two examples are handbrake cable adjustments and tracking issues.However I would like to think that leaking shocks (not floppy as imprecise term) would always be replaced foc in first 2 years and under 60k miles.

Regarding suspension matters generally you are quite correct that lower stiffer springs are better when fitted together with uprated shocks.I have just fitted the Eibach springs for now because Skoda are quite happy that they can work with the original shocks and I am not one for spending vast amounts on mods,but if I still have the car at 3yrs/ 30 k miles and I am keeping the car and feel that the shocks have then gone weak then I will uprate.

The Eibach springs alone do improve the handling at some small loss of ride comfort.

TBH if I was more inclined to experiment and spend I would like to sample a vRS with STANDARD springs but with uprated shocks and roll bars front and rear,and possibly the harder suspension bushes at the front that also allow more castor angle.

I don't think anyone has got this set up because the first thing most think of is "low springs equals sexy looks"

newbie69,

Just replace with a set of standard dampers then if they needed replacing,

they are hardly expensive or you will get take offs from people sell standard they have taken off when upgrading..

Or go to a Dealership and try for a Replacement under warranty if so inclined.

 

The long and short of it is if you want to modify a car, either accept you are doing it,

or use parts that the Manufacturer/Dealer already sells (Eibach) so they can not question who fitted them, (as long as properly fitted.)

same as Servicing, it is 'Free Market' under EU Rules.

They can not specify that they do the work.

 

george

I agree the mechanical adjusment exclusion applies to the first six months and two examples are handbrake cable adjustments and tracking issues.However I would like to think that leaking shocks (not floppy as imprecise term) would always be replaced foc in first 2 years and under 60k miles.

Regarding suspension matters generally you are quite correct that lower stiffer springs are better when fitted together with uprated shocks.I have just fitted the Eibach springs for now because Skoda are quite happy that they can work with the original shocks and I am not one for spending vast amounts on mods,but if I still have the car at 3yrs/ 30 k miles and I am keeping the car and feel that the shocks have then gone weak then I will uprate.

The Eibach springs alone do improve the handling at some small loss of ride comfort.

TBH if I was more inclined to experiment and spend I would like to sample a vRS with STANDARD springs but with uprated shocks and roll bars front and rear,and possibly the harder suspension bushes at the front that also allow more castor angle.

I don't think anyone has got this set up because the first thing most think of is "low springs equals sexy looks"

I believe sy (250 bhp fabia II) did this , front and rear H&R anti roll bars and standard suspension, and said it was a vast improvement, I currently have eibachs (and on his recomendation) a RARB from H&R (the stiffest one available) I will be at castle combe in sept, and was last there in my old car with standard suspension, so I will be able to give a review of the differences (I'm on standard shocks) BUT like you, if I find it becomming bouncy (i.e. if the standard shocks wear prematurely) I wont be looking for warrenty replacement, I will be looking at buying uprated shocks

newbie69,

Just replace with a set of standard dampers then if they needed replacing,

they are hardly expensive or you will get take offs from people sell standard they have taken off when upgrading..

Or go to a Dealership and try for a Replacement under warranty if so inclined.

 

 

But you wrote "uprated", no? And I was referring to the likes of Bilstein B8 etc.

Edited 16 August, 201312 yr by newbie69

Yes i did say 'uprated' because if the standard ones were not up to the job it seemed silly to replace like for like, 

someone wanting upgrades and all that.

The subject had got to Warranty Claims on 'Floppy Shocks' raised by XK140..

You brought up the cost issue of 'Uprating'.

 

If its just for style over function then what ever.

or Losing ride comfort but improving handling a bit.

You can go the next step, improve handling without loss of comfort.

 

george

Thanks for the interesting discussion. 

Thinking about it, if I was to have aftermarket springs fitted elsewhere (not at a Skoda dealer) then I imagine the only parts that may be adversely affected are likely to be the absorbers? Shouldn't make much difference to any other parts should it?

 

There are two reasons for my wanting to have it done away from the dealer - bigger range to choose from (possibly with a bigger drop) and price. 

What are peoples thoughts? Is it worth looking elsewhere or should I just get the dealer option? I'm guessing £400-ish to get them supplied/fitted.

Regarding the 'crashy' ride of the vRS and also the Monte Carlo, is this spring or damper related please? Both cars really bang when they hit a pothole, almost like they are 'bottoming' out, I always assumed it was common in sporty cars (never had one before) but from discussions it's just in the set up? 

I spent approx £800 on my chassis setup which had upgraded everything but the dampers.  It was a massive improvement and an absolute gem to drive.  I was initially going to go for AST coilovers which were not a cheap commodity, but when setting the car up with springs/ARB etc whilst waiting for the coilovers to finish the development, i was so impressed that i cancelled the order as essentially i didnt see how another £800-£1000 would give the same improvment as I had experienced for only £800 with the ARBs, springs, poly bushes and engine mounts.

 

That said if the stock dampers did fail, i wouldnt hesitate to uprate them

I'm wanting to get my vRS lowered with a set of springs.

 

I know the Eibach set is a dealer-fit option which I could go for risk-free, but I wondered what the implications to the warranty are if I get a different set of springs fitted elsewhere (not at a franchised dealer) ?

 

Thanks!

Same as any other mod.  If you try to claim under warranty for something affected by your mod they won't pay up.

So if your DMF fails it is unlikely that they can blame that on a suspension mod but it would be a different story if you had a massive power boost from a remap.

If you want to see a great way to destroy your warranty on all counts see here:

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/243854-citigo-go-a-citigo-with-more-go/

:rofl:

If there is an interest in Springs from anyone the H&R springs and anti roll bars just came up on Group Buy : )

Think both Sy and Sharky can comment on these.

If there is an interest in Springs from anyone the H&R springs and anti roll bars just came up on Group Buy : )

Think both Sy and Sharky can comment on these.

Did they...?

 

I know where I'm looking next then!

So what are the opinions on these? And how much do you think I might be looking at to get them fitted?

Did they...?

 

I know where I'm looking next then!

So what are the opinions on these? And how much do you think I might be looking at to get them fitted?

Cant say for certain on springs but Sharkrider got his RARB fitted for £40.00

Link to group buy

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/286108-hr-suspension-and-arb-group-buy-aks-tuning/

Cant say for certain on springs but Sharkrider got his RARB fitted for £40.00

Would have been less if it wasn't such a bugger to fit!