I have a cherished number, currently on a Retention Document, that can go immdiately onto our new, unregistered, Yeti.

 

It states on the V778, The Assignment Fee Has Already Been Paid. It was paid by me.

 

Am I correct in thinking that within the dealers On the Road Pack is a cost for registering the vehicle with the DVLA and if so is this also termed an assignment fee.

 

If so the dealer is not charged and should refund (knock off the bill) this fee.

 

thanks

(Please it is not a personalised number but one that has been in our family since 1952)

Correct. If your registration is on retention certificate there is no further fee to be made. Your dealer should assign the plates for free. All they have to do is fill the appropriate part of the V5C and sent off your certificate with the logbook to the DVLA.

ahh yes the first registration fee is £55....3/4 tank of fuel I will ask for then. I think they put 1/4 tank FOC.

I disagree. There is a cost to registering a new vehicle and there's a separate cost to applying your cherished plate. You could argue that the cost were for taking it off the old vehicle and re-registerng that. Similarly there is a charge for a retention cert. even if the plate is not used before the retention cert. expires.

I went through the same thought process when putting a new plate on which also had the fees included in the £250 'cost' of the plate.

Nothing to stop you asking the dealer mind.

Surely the first registration fee applies to the first registration of the car regardless of what actual number is assigned?

Any money for retention or for the v750 in the first place is over and above the other charges. Note 'first registration fee' and 'assignment fee' are two discreet charges. The privilege of having your 'own' number...

Edited 2 May, 201412 yr by ben4012

As things stand currently you're better off taking the car on a standard registration plate and doing the transfer yourself. If you ask the dealer to transfer the plate onto an unregistered car there is currently a delay of 8-10 weeks and that will be 8-10 weeks where you will not be able to use the car. At least if you take the car on a normal registration then you can use the car and simply change the plates later. The delay has been caused by the closure of the DVLA regional offices to centrally managed, so instead of 10 days its now 10 weeks.

As things stand currently you're better off taking the car on a standard registration plate and doing the transfer yourself. If you ask the dealer to transfer the plate onto an unregistered car there is currently a delay of 8-10 weeks and that will be 8-10 weeks where you will not be able to use the car. At least if you take the car on a normal registration then you can use the car and simply change the plates later. The delay has been caused by the closure of the DVLA regional offices to centrally managed, so instead of 10 days its now 10 weeks.

This is interesting because the dealer had a private plated car in the showroom when we went to view and test drive and it was still there a couple of weeks later....maybe it was 'waiting'. I must look further into this on Tuesday, thanks

As things stand currently you're better off taking the car on a standard registration plate and doing the transfer yourself. If you ask the dealer to transfer the plate onto an unregistered car there is currently a delay of 8-10 weeks and that will be 8-10 weeks where you will not be able to use the car. At least if you take the car on a normal registration then you can use the car and simply change the plates later. The delay has been caused by the closure of the DVLA regional offices to centrally managed, so instead of 10 days its now 10 weeks.

I believe this is only the case if you ask them to perform the whole process. If you have already put the number on retention you just hand them the certificate and they get the number assigned as if you had chosen one off the list the dealership has. Certainly did not present any problems for me when I picked up the Octy last October.

I believe this is only the case if you ask them to perform the whole process. If you have already put the number on retention you just hand them the certificate and they get the number assigned as if you had chosen one off the list the dealership has. Certainly did not present any problems for me when I picked up the Octy last October.

Quite correct, I've done this many times with no delay whatsoever.

As things stand currently you're better off taking the car on a standard registration plate and doing the transfer yourself. If you ask the dealer to transfer the plate onto an unregistered car there is currently a delay of 8-10 weeks and that will be 8-10 weeks where you will not be able to use the car. At least if you take the car on a normal registration then you can use the car and simply change the plates later. The delay has been caused by the closure of the DVLA regional offices to centrally managed, so instead of 10 days its now 10 weeks.

Sorry I wrote this before viewing the above 2 posts...

 

Having now had time to thunk, I do not fully understand why this is so. The dealer will be applying in precisely the same way they would when registering the vehicle for a normal plate except my Retention Document will accompany their documentation i.e. proof of new vehicle, cheque for £55 and details about me. There is nothing more complicated involved.

Edited 3 May, 201412 yr by DonjSZ5

Just get the car on a normal plate, then after you receive the V5 send it back with your retention cert.

 

It took 8 days

 

I have just fitted my new plates today  Called my insurance and they changed my details straight away NO charge and new docs in the post.

The reg was on retention and sent it off last Friday it took 8 days. My new V5, replacement Tax disc, and certificate to have plates made up and displayed all arrived together.  

 

You can check on the data bases when your new number gets confirmed to you car and it is taxed but not insured, and your old number will show as insured but untaxed.  

Beware of your insurers charging you an admin fee to change your registration number on your policy, I took my car on a 63 plate as I was going to Europe a few weeks after collecting my new car (You have to take your V5C with you) I transferred the plate later on and even made all the changes myself online for my insurance and was then charged an admin fee for the transaction!

If you have your cherished registration on a retention certificate the dealer can put it on the car from new, right there and then.

THERE IS NO TIME DELAY.

They do not save money by you supplying it as the "on the road costs" includes a first registration fee, which is not the same as a plate transfer fee.

Dealers do not pay for a random plate so you are saving them nothing.

 

The delays come in if you trade in a car with a cherished registration and want it on the new car, because since the local offices were closed last year everything has to go to the DVLA in Swansea, which can take three weeks.

 

So people selling or part exchanging a car with a cherished registration should put it on retention a month before they get shot of the old car.

This means you then have the reg on a retention certificate and can immediately put it on the new car.

 

I hope this helps.

Another reason to take the car on a normal plate is that you will have two physical plates to reattach when you change and DVLA reassign the original number. This saves a bit of hassle and a few quid to get new plates made.

Another reason to take the car on a normal plate is that you will have two physical plates to reattach when you change and DVLA reassign the original number. This saves a bit of hassle and a few quid to get new plates made.

Good point.

This saves a bit of hassle and a few quid to get new plates made.

This assumes that the original number is reassigned (likely) and that you already have plates to go on the new car that are pre drilled (if required) in the same place.

Always best IMO to stick on new plates - looks much neater, so the position of any pre-drilled holes is not going to be an issue.

 

I think the point ben4012 was making was, that the original plates can be re-attached in exactly the same holes of the original ones, after removing the personal plates.

 

I have transferred many, many private plates over the years, and on every occasion DVLA have always re- assigned the original number. Not aware of any situation where they might issue another number.

Slight bump...

 

Lots of useful info here but can I get confirmation of what happens with the existing registration after it gets swapped. I'm looking at getting a personal plate and intend to keep it long term. What's involved in taking the personal plate off (to put on retention) and getting the original plate back on? Do you need to have put that on retention too (at the time of the first swap) or does the DVLA just reuse it regardless (as per Andrew's post above)?

 

Am I right in assuming that after the purchase of the personal plate, and the £80 transfer fee, there are no further DVLA related costs (e.g., will the tax disc be reissued without a further charge)?

Slight bump...

 

Lots of useful info here but can I get confirmation of what happens with the existing registration after it gets swapped. I'm looking at getting a personal plate and intend to keep it long term. What's involved in taking the personal plate off (to put on retention) and getting the original plate back on? Do you need to have put that on retention too (at the time of the first swap) or does the DVLA just reuse it regardless (as per Andrew's post above)?

 

Am I right in assuming that after the purchase of the personal plate, and the £80 transfer fee, there are no further DVLA related costs (e.g., will the tax disc be reissued without a further charge)?

 

 

The car's original age related plate is taken back by the DVLA and unless it spells something and is worth money it's just held.

They say you can't guarantee getting it back when you take your personalised plate off, but I have to say that every single time I have.

They have no other use for them, so you practically always get the car's original reg number back when you tyour personalised plate off.

 

Yes, there are no further charges, VED is reissued in the correct new reg number and they ask you to destroy the old one.

Just as an aside to this, if a car is scrapped/written off what happens to the plate? There's one particular plate on an old car of mine that I'd love to have back. The car is no longer around and I was hoping the plate would appear on one of the reg sites but its been a few years and nothing.

To transfer a plate from a car it must have a current MOT and you must hold title, after the car is written off the plate is never re-issued as it could cause a lot of confusion down the line with HPI etc.

Just as an aside to this, if a car is scrapped/written off what happens to the plate? There's one particular plate on an old car of mine that I'd love to have back. The car is no longer around and I was hoping the plate would appear on one of the reg sites but its been a few years and nothing.

 

You should have sent off the V5 and taken the plate off before the insurance company/scrapper got it, as then it's gone.

If you have a personalised reg number and write the car off, you immediately send the docs to the DVLA to get your reg off, then send the V5 to the insurance company as they ask you to.

 

The DVLA have a huge number of unissued old reg numbers and release them in three/four auctions per year.

You can apparently ask them to release one and they'll look into it.

I tried three times and no response.