42 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

@lol-lolare you taking it out of the UK much to be doing high speed runs? 

No not really, no plans. It will be in eco mode most of the time and I expect to get close too 300 miles range even with the 60 kwh battery.

 

Reportedly the car will do 71 mph in eco mode so no 130 kph needed for French roads or 150 is it's speed limit as the motor hits 11,000 rpm. Expect it might shown as about 155 kph as bigger battery version shows 176 kph even though supposedly limited to 170 kph.

 

Byorn Nyland has a Scenic on test this weekend.  He was not impressed with the headlight, said it needed LEDBAR ?  Space in the car is very impressive he thought. Waiting for the 1,000 km challenge but I am not expecting a leading result especially if he barrels it at 130 kph where he can, not where tge Scenic excels. Keep it too 110 kph ie just under 70 mph and it will look much better.

 

People have been getting on driving OK for maybe 70 years or more in 60 mph UK NSL roads with a lot crappier lights than cars have had fitted in the past 10 years. 

As long as the Matrix lights do not dazzle others and auto dip,s do dip they will be fine.

1 hour ago, Ootohere said:

People have been getting on driving OK for maybe 70 years or more in 60 mph UK NSL roads with a lot crappier lights than cars have had fitted in the past 10 years. 

As long as the Matrix lights do not dazzle others and auto dip,s do dip they will be fine.

 

On motorcycles we had decades of 25w/35w non halogen single headlights. I know what poor headlights have been like in previous decades. Headlights blows, try and replace or wait until dawn !

@lol-lol

 

 

1 hour ago, Ootohere said:

@lol-lol

 

 

 

Thanks and I saw this one yesterday and reckon it was very honest.

 

Made the very good point that whilst range was relatively good if you tank it ie 80 mph cruising, you could get less than 200 miles put of even the big battery model. Probably as low as 150 out of my 60 kwh version I am getting.

Aero drag is a cube relationship it is oft forgotten, tyre energy loss more of a square.

 

Great car in so many ways but if one wants a motorway mile muncher then get a model 3 or ID 7 or similar or wait for new model Y.

 

Edited 26 August, 20241 yr by lol-lol

Personally, if  leasing or buying used or new for doing a few hundred miles a week a few times a week and for work reasons and time critical it would be a Polestar i would drive. 

The only reason for any of the Tesla,s would be for the Supercharger hubs, but as Tesla non Tesla has expended then a Polestar it would be. 

1 hour ago, Ootohere said:

Personally, if  leasing or buying used or new for doing a few hundred miles a week a few times a week and for work reasons and time critical it would be a Polestar i would drive. 

The only reason for any of the Tesla,s would be for the Supercharger hubs, but as Tesla non Tesla has expended then a Polestar it would be. 

 

Might just get a Polestar under £40k and then the relative monthly payments under one or other schemes. 

Polestar 2 reminds me too much of my S40.

This was basically a ford focus with a different body shell on.  Nice around except it had the PSA 1.6 diesel in it, not very good and not even that good on fuel.

It was more like £17k when I had one but that was 15 year ago but even so. Also I suppose all Polestar 2s, even if one can get a few K off the price, are going to be hit with the luxury car tax, for cars with RRP over £40k, sooner or later.

 

 

 

They just drive so nicely. & then i loved my Volvo S60. 

 

 

Edited 26 August, 20241 yr by Ootohere

2 hours ago, Ootohere said:

They just drive so nicely. & then i loved my Volvo S60. 

 

 

 

Ford had a grand plan to premium brands, Aston, JLR and Volvo.

 

Whilst engines were OK I suppose the interiors, especially switch gear, were shocking and showed Ford just did not get premium cars ambience as part of their buyer satisfaction.

 

My Jaaag type S was a very nice car in many was but the Ford Swichgear, yuck.

 

Mine was excellent & superior to many a BMW, Audi or Merc on a 53 plate.

 

I wonder just how low the asking prices and buying prices are going to get to by next year when there are going to be many ex hire / lease Polestar for sale.

 

Edited 26 August, 20241 yr by Ootohere

1 hour ago, Ootohere said:

Mine was excellent & superior to many a BMW, Audi or Merc on a 53 plate.

 

I wonder just how low the asking prices and buying prices are going to get to by next year when there are going to be many ex hire / lease Polestar for sale.

 

 

The EU has lowered the counterveiling duty on TESLA to 9%, BYD next lowest at 17% but I seem to remember that Geely and SAIC/MG are still up around 38% Ad Valorem plus the normal 10% custon duty as well.

Be hard for Gelly and SAIC to sell to the EU so maybe they will target UK and make more Right Hand Drive cars.

 

Indeed Volvo make great cars.

 

I learnt driving in a Volvo 340 (or something similar). Years later, I had a s40 mk1 for many years, took me many places. I was tempted with Polestar 2 but interior feels smaller than Model 3 let alone Y.

 

When going on holiday somewhere with good charging coverage (eg. France, Germany, Norway etc). I'd definitely want to try to rent Polestar. It costed the same between Polestar 2 vs Model 3 when I rented in Portugal, so I went with easier to charge option.

 

Polestar 3 and 4 unfortunately seems like Chinese EV adopted to European market. Rather than Volvo adopted to EV's.

1 hour ago, Ootohere said:

Mine was excellent & superior to many a BMW, Audi or Merc on a 53 plate.

 

I wonder just how low the asking prices and buying prices are going to get to by next year when there are going to be many ex hire / lease Polestar for sale.

 

 

Reduced interest rate, 8.9% !!!

 

Down from 11 or 12 % I suppose.

 

Getting 4.9% on the new Renault which is feel is a fairish rate.

 

The thing about however much a tariff there is the BEV,s are required to get imported and first registered to save whichever manufacturers being fined £15,000 per vehicle if the 22% first registrations are not met. 

 

There are going to have to be lots of loss leaders getting punted to whoever. 

22 hours ago, Ootohere said:

The thing about however much a tariff there is the BEV,s are required to get imported and first registered to save whichever manufacturers being fined £15,000 per vehicle if the 22% first registrations are not met. 

 

There are going to have to be lots of loss leaders getting punted to whoever. 

 

Buying the Scenic was like pushing an opening door, I wonder just how far they would go in terms of discounts.

 

As always look at Autotrader to see what dealers are offer.

 

Usually it is hard enough just to get hundreds off the base model particularly but to get thousands off, and a loan rate lower than my mortgage rate and a free charger.

 

I think there might be free mats and a bunch of flowers too. If I pay the rest of the deposit on American Express it might be scary what happens.

 

Edited 27 August, 20241 yr by lol-lol

Not the full 1,000 km challenge, which he reckons would take over 10 hours in the big battery Scenic, but a fuel consumption/range test....

I am sure he would get better range and quicker journeys if he stuck to 110/115 kph rather than driving at 130+ kph.  Massive difference in energy consumption ie about 50% !

 

 

The great thing about Bjorn's tests are they are consistent. Always the same GPS speed over known routes. makes for easy comparison between cars. 1000km challenge is at 130kph for all cars, so favours cars with good aerodynamics and efficient motors. This is probably why Tesla always do well but the new ID.7 saloon also did well in the test for the same reasons.

2 hours ago, Luckypants said:

The great thing about Bjorn's tests are they are consistent. Always the same GPS speed over known routes. makes for easy comparison between cars. 1000km challenge is at 130kph for all cars, so favours cars with good aerodynamics and efficient motors. This is probably why Tesla always do well but the new ID.7 saloon also did well in the test for the same reasons.

 

The guy is a diamond but we could do with a UK Bjorn.  He does GPS correction for speed and distance and records weather and tyre sizes.

 

But the UK is a very different place.  One is risking one's licence cruising much above 125 kph ie 77 mph, I had a speeding ticket and speed awareness course to prove 80/81 mph, ie 130 kph is deemed excess here in the UK. 

 

Do not think I could face a TESLA with its minimalist interior and right wing owner but the ID7 is nearly £60k and that is for the 77 kwh pack, the 85 kwh one even more, need to see some discount offers on this in the next few weeks and months.  For £40k you can only get a Model 3 SR+, albeit one can get 340 miles range with the smaller wheels.

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

Apparently 0-100 kph in 8s is now regarded as slow.   This video from Bjorn Nyland, the prestigious tester of EVs and this is the more powerful 220 hp version and not the 170hp version I am getting delivered in the next few weeks.  Scenic is quite light for an fair sized EV.  Front wheel drive maybe deducting half a second or so from the 0-100 but it does give for good cabin space which the Scenic has...... 

 

   

Edited 30 August, 20241 yr by lol-lol

Very nice, comfy and quiet with more than enough space.

 

Renault have done a great job. Under 2000 kg, might be aiming for something in Paris

7 hours ago, wyx087 said:

Very nice, comfy and quiet with more than enough space.

 

Renault have done a great job. Under 2000 kg, might be aiming for something in Paris

 

Very nationalist the Parisian authority as the 2T EV limit will hit the big Gernan EVs and the bigger battery Enyaq. Think the big Peugeot 3008 will also get wacked but Renault are building lighter EVs.

Paris does its own thing. When I wad part of Bollore we had 5,000 Blucars on the streets of Paris until they withdrew the subsidies almost without warning then we gad to close down a unique EV project. It was reckoned we were taking as many as 100,000 ice journeys a day off the roads of Paris. One of the Blucars got hired 40 times in one day. Oft just a jaunt from Gard de Nord to the Sud but still. 6 minute hire intervals. The odd fire wad out down to homeless breaking in and starting a little warming fire !!

Still work for a French firm, we have been and are doing the logistics for tge Olympics. Think I prefer Marseille to Paris which is our head head office ie CMA.

 

Edited 31 August, 20241 yr by lol-lol

Latest Car Guru UK youtube video....

 

Mainly about the 370 mile than the 261 mile version I have ordered but the 360 mile WLTP (can be surpassed or not reached) and is bigger battery is the one most commonly ordered. 

Bigger battery one RRP is just over £40k but discounts out there mean one can be had for much less.  My £37.5k version is out there for about £33K I have seen. As said low finance at 4.9%, better than many mortgages out there. 

 

 

Edited 5 September, 20241 yr by lol-lol

Kia EV3 road tests coming through...
 

 

 

Edited 11 September, 20241 yr by Luckypants

Scenic Comfort collected.  Range showing 192 miles with 3/4 battery showing full.  Tyre pressures set to my preference ie higher and we will see where the range settles down to.   Dealer mention one of their fleet Megane etech has shown over 300 miles guessed range.  As I mentioned I agreed a price much closer to £30k than £40K ie just over £400 a month on PCP.  Image attached....     Good video. Well done Polestar 2 but it is a saloon rather than a SUV which most people seem to want.  322 miles at 70 mph and in rain. Whilst this long range version ie 92 kw h  version has an RRP of £41k it can be had for much less than that.  Q6, more than twice the price highlighted VAG Group issues, wish they had the Skoda Enyak on the test, either battery size.  With proper set up and safer driving ie tyres pumped up a bit more and cruising a little slower, as the French do ie drive a little slower in the rain, say 65, they could have gone much further but then they would have gone even deeper into the night getting these cars to run out of charge.   

 

 

Edited 23 September, 20241 yr by lol-lol