So here is a cautionary tale. Don't over torque your lock nuts folks.

 

I did when working on the sound proofing for the car, luckily only one. The lock nut key rounded slightly trying to get it off and was useless. The options were order a new lock nut key but there is no guarantee that would work as the bolt was damaged too. So searched around for someone who could remove it with tools and luckily found someone very proficient having been quoted everything from €40 to €160, some saying the alloy might be destroyed in the process. The first two tyre centres I took it too we're unable to remove it.

 

Every tyre centre I spoke to cursed these things and suggested that I remove them all and replace with conventional bolts which I have done. The place that did mine is smashing these things off everyday.

 

If you are using them make sure they are never tightened with an impact drill and and are torqued just beyond hand tight.

 

Hope this helps somebody!

Anyone know the correct torque setting ?

2 minutes ago, 2wheelsgood said:

Anyone know the correct torque setting ?

120N/m same as the other wheel bolts, never had a problem changing to winter/ summer wheels twice a year for the past 8 years on 4 different Skoda’s.

 

Wheel thieves get them off quick enough, and some even do it with a rattle gun and no damage.

35 minutes ago, Kenny R said:

120N/m same as the other wheel bolts, never had a problem changing to winter/ summer wheels twice a year for the past 8 years on 4 different Skoda’s.

I see you drive a Kodiaq.

My Superb is 140Nm

17 hours ago, mandp said:

I see you drive a Kodiaq.

My Superb is 140Nm

 

Correct, the Superb is 140Nm...

 

17 hours ago, mandp said:

I see you drive a Kodiaq.

My Superb is 140Nm

 

26 minutes ago, ope126 said:

 

Correct, the Superb is 140Nm...

 

Thanks guys, just checked and the Kodiaq is 140Nm as well. Previous Octavia and Yetis were 120Nm. Same 14mm 1.5 bolts different torques confused.

On 19/11/2019 at 15:48, Steviedakota said:

Every tyre centre I spoke to cursed these things and suggested that I remove them all and replace with conventional bolts which I have done.

 

Good call.

 

They offer a zero deterrent to wheel thieves. They are more likely to leave you stranded at the side of the road unable to change your own wheel than they are to secure your wheels against theft.

10 hours ago, silver1011 said:

They offer a zero deterrent to wheel thieves

Plus who's gonna bother nicking stock wheels off a Superb?????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

If it's a Lambo then maybe, but then your Lambo would be in a garage with CCTV & alarms & bells & whistles, so......................

The idiot in the video, he even admits he has broken three keys, has an extra long bar - guess why the nuts were too tight.

 

Put them on with the tool in the kit and you will be able to get them off.

 

Never had a problem.

39 minutes ago, IJWS15 said:

Never had a problem.

 

Until you do.  All it takes is one muppet mechanic, tyre fitter or lost key.  I am done with them but each to their own.

Here's another cautionary tale for @Steviedakota

 

Use of that cheap telescopic wrench that has a 30/45 Deg angled out handle and a curved section that can't be held square is probably the reason the video guy broke all those keys. When you apply torque, it's not at the correct angle, forcing the key to skew and so apply undue force on its not fully engaged side. Jumping on that particular wrench is guaranteed to cause damage to a key.

 

Use a proper torque wrench or breaker bar and as close to the wheel as possible, so the key remains properly fully engaged at all times with torque applied at 90 degs to the key and apply steadily increasing torque. A six sided socket instead of the more common 12 sided socket ensures less slop and scope for damage.

 

https://www.toolstop.co.uk/sealey-ak7302-breaker-bar-750mm-1-2-inch-square-drive-p15027

 

I have found through bitter experience, use the right tool for the job and don't skimp, only buy quality tools. Will save you grief and lots of expense.

 

Torque to correct specified value, never lube wheel bolts, seats, or hub faces. Must be clean and dry.

 

 

 

 

Edited 21 November, 20196 yr by xman

^^ Excellent advice there.