Second service yep not two year old, many many recalls due to software.  

During second service it's due back in again as known issue with drive belt and pulley. Noticeable via awful sound from engine (1.5), told either one or both will need change on a 2 yr old car.

No idea what Skoda did to the Octavia heritage.

Ps have noted the infotainment screen should be other way round as it's a left hooker on all UK models meaning main rubbish touch buttons are oriented for Europe so you have to stretch across.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Interesting.

Please can you describe the noise. I have a bit of a whine when the AC is working hard so assumed it was the AC unit - but could it be the belt/pulley I wonder.

This is the sound, it there's regularly weather parked at lights or moving 

 

 

1.5TSI's since the WLTP certification are going to be interesting to watch as the years go on and they are out of manufacturers warranty.

Best take out extended Skoda Warranties when the Manufacturers ones do expire.

(Memories of Euro 5 TSI's,  overblown on the internet, according to VW Group and others.)

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/506640-octavia-mk4-15tsi-engine-rattle

 

End of contract I'm leaving after 4 Octavia's the brand as this has been rubbish 

2 hours ago, 6nations said:

This is the sound, it there's regularly weather parked at lights or moving 

 

 

Thanks. A different noise to mine, and a good idea from @roottoot

12 hours ago, roottoot said:

1.5TSI's since the WLTP certification are going to be interesting to watch as the years go on and they are out of manufacturers warranty.

1.5 TSI been with us since 2017 or 2018. Plenty of cars out of warranty now, and somehow i haven't heard about failures.

At least since 2018 they are undergoing WLTP certifications, and since that time not much has changed in the engine as such, except for adding mHEV to some models.

@Felix2021 

Maybe time to start listening then to those that are getting tales from Dealership employees, maybe even technicians.

We get to know about engines over 3 or 4 years once they get to over 3 or 4 years. 

So next year we will see how they are doing at 5 years. 

 

They had not to pass the WLTP at that point in time and did not have GPF's and then ha not the engine management manipulated as they required to get the certification.

Hence the cars being delayed while the certification was done, WLTP & RDE.  Hence why some required the Service Recall actions after the were delivered. 

 

Checking all 4 spark plugs on ACT engines even before 40,000 miles has past is 'simply clever', no harm done. 

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/491674-chariteristics-of-my-octavia

Old stuff, never happened, an internet myth.   Or so VW Group would want you to believe. 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/484249-15-tsi-judder-and-km-display-error

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/466076-new-15-engine-losing-power-intermittently

 

http://carwow.co.uk/news/2914/new-volkswagen-1-5-tsi#gref

Edited 20 October, 20223 yr by roottoot

30 minutes ago, roottoot said:

Maybe time to start listening then to those that are getting tales from Dealership employees, maybe even technicians.

What i mean, is that if there would be some fundamental flaws in those engines, like with EA111 family or first generation of EA888, we would hear it already.

1.5 TSI is evolution of EA211 family. 1.4 been with us since 2012, and haven't heard of major flaws. Only heard about variator issues in first batches of 1.2.

 

31 minutes ago, roottoot said:

They had not to pass the WLTP at that point in time and did not have GPF's

They have WLTP certification and GPF's since late 2018. I had first batch of Ateca's with this engine and GPF, manufactured in October 2018.

 

35 minutes ago, roottoot said:

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/491674-chariteristics-of-my-octavia

Old stuff, never happened, an internet myth.   Or so VW Group would want you to believe. 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/484249-15-tsi-judder-and-km-display-error

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/466076-new-15-engine-losing-power-intermittently

Well, never said this engine didn't have ANY problems. But this one actually seems resolved now, and it was mostly software and didn't affect mechanical reliability. I had little juddering in Ateca, but it was solved with a software update and engine been flawless since than (except for it being louder, than 1.4 TSI).

Of course not denying, that some users might have had problems/failures of 1.5 TSI, but it's still single cases, which in many cases can be caused by a single failed part. It happens, especially with high amounts of engines manufactured. 1.5 is the most popular engine in VG group right now. Just look on how many cars they sell, and how many of them have this engine.

From my perspective after initial problems with juddering being solved, this seems to be really good and reliable engine, with no major flaws. So far at least.

However i agree with your comment on extended warranty, although actually engine would be one of the last things i'm worried about  It's more about issues with electronics and possibly DQ200 gearbox/clutches/flywheel.

The 1.4 TSI engines are that good that they are used around the world still in the likes of North America and Australia and fitted to a 8 speed TC Automatic.

There was no need like in the EU / Europe to be used just as plug in hybrids because they would be too high emissions if put through a WLTP.

 

1.5 TSI's can be brilliant.  Maybe those looking to buy used ones will pay attention to the Service History of stuff done and not just ticked off. and the Recall Actions carried out and Warranty work done, and now if there are any TPI's covering them. 

1 hour ago, roottoot said:

Maybe those looking to buy used ones will pay attention to the Service History

That;s always a good habit, no matter what engine we are talking about

First of all avoid cars serviced using long life.

Those getting 1.4 TSI PHEV's later in their life need to be aware their Oil & Filter Service & Inspection Services are 'fixed services'.

 

With 1.5 TSI's Variable / Flexible oil changes need not be an issue if the cars are doing  enough miles annually.

 

Servicing is more than 'Oil & Filter' changes and Look see 'Inspection services'.   Or should be, but not with the new Oil & Service and Extended Scope set up with Skoda Dealerships.

 

So a Full Main Dealer Service History does not mean Serviced to the Manufacturers Recommendations, guidelines or even schedule.

 

No guarantee that wheels have been off since the car was built, or brake fluid ever tested let alone changed, or many more things that are actual servicing and maintenance.

 

People need to check out the prices being asked to change a timing belt on a 1.5TSI when that time comes around. 

That is the noise that mine makes since I replaced the aircon shear plate and had to use an old high mileage pulley which had the correct threaded fixings.

 

I only hear it when driving at low revs and it always goes away if I switch on the aircon.

 

I believe it to be (in my case) the bearing that the pulley rides on, you could try switching your AC on and off to see if the noise goes away or changes.

20 minutes ago, roottoot said:

With 1.5 TSI's Variable / Flexible oil changes need not be an issue

They are always the issue, at least from my experience. At least i'm always changing oil maximum after 1 year or 15000km.

Usually issues will not start before 100-150 kkm, so first owner might not even know about them.

22 minutes ago, roottoot said:

Servicing is more than 'Oil & Filter' changes and Look see 'Inspection services'.

True, that's why i said "first of all...".

It's always good to replace all fluids and filters when buying used car. Thing is, that chaging oil every 30kkm will cause excessive wear, where not changing brake fluid will affect braking performance, but will not destroy anything. So once fluid is changed (after you bought the car), it shouldn't be an issue, even if previous owner was not replacing it.

Good point about all the manufacturer recommendations, TPI's and recalls. This should be checked if possible.

@Felix2021  Personally i disagree with you about the oil with someone that might do 20,000 miles a year and has no need to be putting a car in for an oil change every 9,400 miles in the UK. 

 

If you do use a car in a way that suits Fixed Servicing, and it is a TSI,

then i would say do fixed Oil & Filter servicing and do not use the crap long life oil VW Group recommend.   Long life oil in cars not getting oil up to temp every time or most of the time then a short lived engine rather commonly with VW Group TSI's.  

 

Edited 20 October, 20223 yr by roottoot

Good thing we have a choice

I remember one perfect example of long life servicing.

Renault Laguna - queen of lorries - 1,9 dCI engine. In some cases turbo failed after 70kkm, and negine problems started at roughly 200kkm.

Mitsubishi Carisma 1,9 DiD. No issues, many cars ran for 300kkm and more with factory fitted turbo and no engines problems at all.

Both cars had in reality exactly same engine. It's just that Renault used LL servicing, and Mitsubishi used good, old fixed intervals.

 

I know it was 20 years ago, and now we have better oils, but those still degrade with time.

Oil is especially important in turbocharged engines, as the same oil is used for engine and turbo.

For me it's good enough reason to use fixed servicing interval. It's not really that expensive, and can save a lot of money in the future.

Would be different i it was a leased car, which i know i will get rid in 3-4 years

So here the discussion is not TDI,s. But there are plenty on those with the oil drinkers.   Plenty in the past with 1.4 TSI twinchargers and 1.8 and 2.0 TSI premature death euro 5.s.      Toyota went 0w 30 13 years back when there euro 5 engines were not getting the economy the euro 4 were.       Oil is an issue that VW never have got to grip with, but then pistons, rings, scrappers, oil spray jets, chains, belts, tensioners, door seals and so much else is an issue for what was the biggest manufacturer in the world.      You just cross fingers and toes and hope you get a peach 🍑 and not one of the lemons 🍋.