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It is a fuzzy area and gaming is a lose term. The UK government creates tax law to collect taxes and encourage certain behaviour, like saving for one's pension and obtaining a market for its debt ie by pension funds buying the UK government Gilts. Also like with facilitation of ISAs and the government grant for EVs and salary sacrifice for EVs and well as pension savings. I am oft reminded of the saying of Britain richest family (the long line of the Dukes of Westminster), richer than UK royalty it is said that...... UK government, past and present, wants its citizens to adopt EVs, save for their pensions, and they use the tax laws to do so. It was every thus !

IOG is bringing in rules to stop abuse ie a fair usage clause for those who were getting over 6 hours 7p per kwh. More of a rule change and still full 6 hours available. Think it us those with large ev batteries who were bending the system. Several YouTube videos and Octopus giving some examples. No big problem.

An amazing place. Probably only happened as we had the Central Electricity Board. 0 to full power in 20 seconds. Built to deal with a million kettles going on at half time in live events like World Cup. Would like to see the Great Glen hydro project go ahead which is more than 3 times bigger than Dinorwig. Australia has a hydro project more than 3 times the Great Glen hydro. Wonderful tech.

The Angelsey reactors can link into the Snowdonia high voltage lines that link Dinorwig, think they are over 2 GW lines. They needed to bury them as they crossed though Snowdonia National Park and produced thermal vents which were made to look like shepherd's day time rest huts, cute.

I last read the plan was to have under sea interconnectors between Scotland and England. There is already the ultra high voltage Grid close to Bristol and along the South Wales coast which is also being used to plug in new Battery Storage sites in that area. As with Scotland the area of North Wales and Merseyside pay very high standing charges etc. I would like to see a UK rate for standing charges ratger than this inequitable situation. National Grid national pricing.

Good news that the government is removing hundreds of millions of pounds of these add ons off our unit price in April only 111 days time, abd off gas as well. 3 5p per kwh of electricity and about 0.4 p per kwh off gas which is already very cheap compared to even the Night time rates for electricity.

We can easily have benefits from both the worlds largest wind farms which are off the English coast in the North Sea and if we get our finger out and biuld those tidal generation systems in the Bristol Channel which can provide about 5 GW and do it with consistency with only the relative minor variations of Neap and Spring tides. Of the 3 ie solar, wind and tidal tide is the most reliable which is the main criticism that renewable get.

Keep reducing in length ? Only IntelligentOctopus GO gave introduced a fair usage constain but users still get 6 hours so EV owners can get over 40 kwh in their cars. Some of us use Octopus GO which give us 5 hours of cheap charging between 0030 and 0530 and I find they enough to take the cars from say 25% to 80% charge, even the Scenic with its 60 kwh battery never mind the R5 with its 40 kwh battery and the Mini Cooper E which i can see stopping charging around 0400-0430 as they gave taken 25 to 30 kwh ie up to 90% well in advance of the 0530 cutoff. I was chuffed when Octopus GO cheap hours was extended from 4 hours to 5 hours cheap shift and continuallty pegging the rates of IOG and GO at 7p and 8.5 p respectively means tgat relatively the price has been dropping in real terms. If Grid supply costs were to go higher or less cheap time, I think we could expect ever more people to generate their own i tge grid and electricity wholesalers have to think about driving recover more users to making their own and not buying from the grid. Electricity is typically about 1p per kwh when being made or taken from the interconnects and then all the fluff is added on top. Users are adding more battery storage themselves so can choose even more when to buy from the Grid. Had a another peak at National Grid live ie iamkate website and great to see Wind commonly out supplying gas. I believe electricity is going to get cheaper abd onward, gas happen in many countries and needs to and wi happen here in the UK.

As far as I am aware the 3.5 per Kwh to everyone applies ? Including the Public charging networks, is not the case ? Public charging networks need to all have the 20p reduction for reduction in te cheap periods and perhaps a 10p a kwh when outside the teatime slot of 4-7 pm when I would be quite happy for them to charge a £1 a kwh as everyone should be who can shift but uses electricity when it is very expensive from the Grid. The pubic charging networks are slowly getting better at offering cheaper electricity when it is cheaper for them. Of course the connections fees for the Public Chargers companies to the grid are huge and their capital expenditure is also big. When my company owned Source London with its near 2,000 public chargers the cost of these charging units plus the associated install costs can be between £20k and £100k per rapid /ultra rapid chargers s that investment has to be recovered as well. So public charging cost should come down a lot over the next 6 months as they will with home charging. The cost of EV running is going to come down and down and the 3 p a mile is just a measure to get EVs to pay some tax as that amount we pay is just going down and down whether it is the VAT on the vehicle due to then getting cheaper and government grants making it so or ever cheaper electricity costs. Converse the case whether it is oil company profiteering, increase fuel duty and VED.

I think public chargers and destination chargers will have an increasing place and home chargers diminish as a percentage. I visited a nice MFG refilling site at Poole last weekend. It had 8 diesel/petrol pumps, 6 150 kw chargers, Subway, shop, toilets. Mtor Fuels Group, largest of the UK retailers with most forecourts, seem to the getting this right. Well over 1,000 sites and they seem to be planning to tuck EV charging on those sites where they can plus a few EV only sites where infrastructure dictates. On the other hand, my experience is that BP and Shell are getting it very wrong. With my company we have EV charging at most if out sites, offices and warehouse at prices close to home charging single tariff homes. So the big nut to crack is Public chargers and we should see those prices come down by 3.5p per kwh in April but also better sign in deals which I would use but I only use public charging half a dozen times a year so not really worth it but it could change in retirement when I do more visits to relatives. Public charging seems to be able to be had for around 43p a kwh with these deals but that should drop below 40 p per kwh with the electricity price drops in April. Like with all home "improvements" is it worth putting a channel in, as with adding EV charge boxes or buying a Granny charger to what c an save over public charging costs if they are only 12 p a kwh more than the home charge cost. If one is doing the miles then signing up to the Day / Night tariff schemes and sorting out home charging can be worth it. www.motorfuelgroup.comCreekmoor, FS1078 | Fuel Station | Motor Fuel GroupOpening times, contact information, directions, services & extras for our Creekmoor, FS1078 fuel station.

I gather this is more down to Renault CEO than RR as Renault upper its minimum deposit from 30% to 40%. New Renault CEO seems more busy savvy than the last one. No big discounts on the 5 either as Renault sort of saying it sells itself. Better deals on the Megane ie i coukd getvm a big Blue Light discount on that but not the 5. Was ever thus. Small discounts on the bread and butter cars but bigger ones on the segment C and D cars. Such a bargain now and with cheaper lecky from April first these is good. Hopefully cheaper Publuc charging as well as home lecky.

I think Stellantis are getting better quite quickly and their very large number of models there is something for most people. Going from Citroen Peugeot to the massive group it is now and some really quite good cars in the line up. I think their problem is they keep losing out to Renault in the awards etc. So 8 out of 10 for products etc but they could do with win or two plus getting cars in the bigger EV grant category. Of all I hope Nissan LEAF does well as it has the British factory.

We have a Cooper E but it is Chinese, ie GWL made and I have not heard of a change there. It is very well made and even the Cooper E is as quick as an Alpine 180 and not far behind a 220 hp version. Cooper SE quick and JWC another level. Good to see Europe doing some good work as Mini-BMW and Renaultare, just need Stellantis and VW to up their fame more too. Yarp.(Hot Fuzz).

Renault 5, and Alpine 290, and Renault 4 getting the full £3,750 UK government grant. Battery pack now hits the criteria for French ecological origin as of about 1st of December. Mini Countryman, made in Leipzig, also has gained full EV grant status of £3750 rather than £1500.

Bunch of Renault / Alpine cars as well, as the now get the full Government £3750 grant..... Also the German made Mini Countryman Electric Just asking Renault dealer if they can get me the extra £2250, as i only got £1500 grant, would bring my buy price down to well under £20k, but AI is saying it is not likely, ah well. GOV.UKFour more EV models qualify for £3,750 discount under Ele...Government doubles the number of models available for the top ECG discount.The eligible vehicles are: Citroën ë-C5 Aircross Long Range. Ford E-Tourneo Courier. Ford Puma Gen-E. MINI Countryman Electric. Nissan LEAF. Renault 4. Renault 5 (52 kWh) Renault Alpine A290.

Better to travel by air or train and pick an EV where one is going to be based. I found hiring an EV in Lisbon good value. Rental cost reasonable, company only required car back 70% charged rather than full if it was ICE. Public charging was very cheap. No way would have driven thru France, maybe caught the Plymouth to Satander ferry. No 3p per mile would apply. Get to try a different EV.

The heat pump uses a small amount of energy from the battery and then as Montgomery Scott would say it uses the laws of physics, reversed Rankin cycle if memory serves, a fridge cycle in reverse and actually grabs energy from the ambient outside ambient air to cabin air and manages to do this with an efficiency of several times more than 100% which sounds like magic and almost is really. If we had enough heat pumps in the world we could probably reverse climate change !!

PTC heater is going to either eat up the electrical energy of the batteries and whilst it may be near 100% efficiency and then will need topping up by that ICE with its efficiency of 30 or 40% or so. The Heat Pump would gave an efficency of circa 300 to 400%. PTC are only used in EVs that are the cheap ones where cost is wanted to be kept right down. Think the new R5 FIVE is going to have this type of cabin heating ie no Heat Pump, no DC charging, absolute bare bones model. Surprises me so few PHEVs have Heat Pumps, even expensive models but all about biuld price i suppose.

I have signed up to the Pay per Mile consultation and it demonstrates just at what an elemental stage the government is at with the questions they are at. Garages would need to do a certified check as the mileage on those EVs and Hybrids end of year 1 and two, possible at service time but some cars only need a service every two year 18k or so miles. Revenue for garages which are being left doing a lot less chargeable work with EVs as they need less maintenance and use less service parts so typically earn garages much less revenue so this would be a way for them to earn some more and do a check on the car where they could possibly get some more work by hook or by crook. The consultancy questions got more obscure as one worked way thru the question paper. Typical politicians construct, all over the place, clearly trying to consider multiple strands of how to do. If the government get a coherent policy by 2028 I will be amazed. Just create some more toll roads and gave electronic tags like most other places, base tax on Gross Vehicle Weight and vehicle type and actually reduce VED.

The current lab test for PHEVs is just rubbish. Most PHEVs or non PHEV hybrids do not have heat pumps. So in the WLTP lab which is at some 22C one does not reach for the heating. With our Clio hybrid it could do 80 mpg in warm weather. Did not need the heating so starting in electric and if only light throttle needed it could stay in EV mode well over half the time. Those who buy PHEVs, especially with the majority which do not have heat pumps will find that massively inefficient ICE firing up in cool, cold weather, firing up that great lump of an engine just to bring up the cooling water to warm up the cabin occupants. Instead of seeing 400, 500, 600, 700 mpg they will see 50, 60, 70, 80 mpg. PHEV Hybrid owners are dreaming if they think they will achieve anything like the fanciful published mpg then they will turm on the manufacturers. Hopefully a meaningful rise in the Road Tax when it relates to the actual on the road CO2 and mpg and they will not be sucked to believing they have hit on some magical do it all peice of tech. Government will get its big VAT collect on these cars which will still need lots of fuel to keep them going, even with home charging, unless the car has a heat pump, sn government will get excuse duty and VAT on the fuel plus the 1.5p per mile mileage charge, nice for them. PHEV Owners will feel very hard done by. Go full BEV and not some Jack of some trades and Master of none !

Bit better range after charging to 100% and with the warmer weather, about 160 miles of mostly Motorway driving. OK with this but wonder how much better it might be with 15 /16 inch wheels and All seasons tyres rather than the 18 inch summer Contis. The 121 hp, 225 Nm engine in this quite light car is enough to get the traction control working sometimes. A Frunk tray and cable storing in there rather than in the boot should help get more weight on the front axle rather than the rear axle.

Electricity will be almost free, well 5p a kwh or less for those who part generate their own and have grid connection at these cheap night time rates to be used when no sun shine ....

Ah but they do over 700 mpg, ha ha. 20 kwh should get you 70 miles or so even for a fat / heavy PHEV with two whole traction systems !

Big drop. Mostly a problem for manufacturer taking back cars just pcp. There was about a £5k gap on my Zoe going back. I was hoping my Scenic, 60 kw version discontinued in UK, would rise in value if cars over 2.4 tonnes GVW suddenly attracted much more expensive parking charges !

Ouch. Renault have changed their deposit needed from 30% to 40% ie it was over £8.5k for my poverty spec evolution version. Combination of that they could do this and people would go through getting the R5 and that Renault were not really making any money and new CEO has changed that.