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yes he did say they will be checked upon strip down and will inform me if there is any issues. If I did not mention this before the work this time is being carried out by an award winning vw audi specialist garage and not the garage that I bought the car from like the first time. they have plenty of experience of the EA888 engine. I think they tried to save money by using the old cam bridge the first time around. The garage carrying out the work told me there was a service bulletin regarding replacing the bridge if the timing chain is replaced. once again thanks for the advice and info.

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Hi. Just  quick update regarding my timing chain issues. Specialists rang today to tell me as rayx suggested that both cams need replacing due to being worn. this has added another big chunk of money to the warranty bill. If the cam bridge had been replaced on initial repair this situation might have not got so bad. He told me the repair bill is now in the 2k region. It's only a month ago the turbo was replaced. I'm just having no luck with this car. so glad I have a warranty. Thanks again to rayx for the heads up regarding the cams. 

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The Car is in the garage so I do not have any more pictures of the cams. I will just have to wait to see what the results are and take it from there. But as this is a warranty claim it is going to cost me nothing and all work is guaranteed by the garage and car supplier. If it fails again they will have to sort it.

 

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yes the steel ball is still in place

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Thanks rayx for the reply and info. I have that bracket at home with me and the timing cover and bolt. there replacing the bracket with a new one and told me there was a service bulletin about this so there onto it. Gauze filter looks like the plastic type. the surface on the bracket seems reasonably ok from what I can see but I'm no expert might be wrong, The lads at autotechnica no there stuff so I'm leaving it in there capable hands. They explained everything and said it will be sorted by the end of next week. All previous work by them has been superb. Can't fault them. 

 

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Just to add this is being fixed again under warranty

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Hi all.

Well after less than a year since my failed timing chain tensioner and related damage it caused I thought those problems were over. It was all fixed by the dealer I bought the car from (I thought). All Genuine VW Parts (Latest tensioner) However I was getting a vibration again from the engine and very noticeable from about 2800/3000rpm. Worried it was timing chain issues again I Took it strait to the guys at autotechnica In Hull. Even though it was  5.30 and they were about to go home they told me to bring it around the back and stick it on the ramp. Andy the owner and Richard both tried to sus out were the vibration was coming from. They thought it might be the new turbo they fitted 3 weeks earlier (Due to failing. Another story). Suggested I do not drive it and leave it with them till they work out what's Wrong. So I left it with them and was kindly given a lift home by Richard. Three Days later Andy rang me to say they had removed the turbo and exhaust But nothing was wrong with those parts and they would do some more investigating . Well Today I got a phone call from them to say they had found the cause of the vibration and if possible could I come in so they could show me. What they had found and had never seen it happen before was one of the guide bolts had worked it's way out and was rubbing vibrating against the timing cover. Fortunately the bolt was not able to completely Drop out But was gradually gridding a hole in the timing cover. Lee who was doing the work told me that a couple of parts that should have been replaced when it first went pop were re-used. You will see in one of the photos some metal gauze that was found in the sump. That's the only largish piece he found in the sump and said it should be ok and they have changed the oil and filter as a precaution. Andy told me that although the chain has not lost tension the guide and tensioner and a few other parts should be replaced again . He said I was very lucky the bolt had not dropped out. Only other issue is what damage has been done to the guide bold thread on the engine block. This might need Helicoiling but as it's only torqued to 20nm it might be ok.

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Thanks And nice meeting you. Not fitted to car as yet as a timing chain guide bolt decided to undo itself nearly destroying my engine for a second time. Autotechnica are fixing it and will fit the arbs while it's there. Thanks again and I hope you enjoyed your holiday

[1.8TSI and 2.0TSI engine failures]

Hi all. Just a quick update on progress to my octy. Got a missed phone call this morning from the dealers. Popped into see them to see what the score is. I was told the head is being rebuilt and cleaned by a specialist with new valves as needed and any other parts required for the head. That should be ready by Tuesday. Also the timing Chain, tensioner and timing chain cover are being replaced and any other parts that may be required. All Genuine VW parts. So she's hoping it will be back on the road by the end of next week. Not a moment too soon. I'll be glad to see the back of the Hyundai ix35 loan car. no power, small load space and totally uninspiring to drive and crap gearbox.

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Hi again. Dows anyone know what the part number is for the latest tensioner

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Head has been removed and sent to local engineering firm for a report on damage. I went in and spoke to the firm that is potentially repairing the head. He said one valve is bent possibly more after strip down. I asked if there was much carbon build up which he said it's not to bad but if they get the go-ahead it will be fully overhauled and cleaned. motor depot told me there was no compression on cylinders 1 and 3 she believes. She told me she was not sure if the tensioner and timing kit would need replacing but I find that hard to believe if the head has bent valves. Went to autotechnica vw specalists for some advice and was told that as long as they use genuine vw parts and put the latest tensioner and do the work correctly it should be as good as new.

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Well I spoke to the dealers again on Friday. Seems like after getting lots of advice from specialists they are going to attempt the repair themselves however they had not even started striping the engine as it was a big job and would require a ramp for an extended period of time. They were snowed under with work but planed on starting this week. They did say a new engine might be required if the old one is beyond repair. I asked if it would be a new engine or a reconditioned engine which she then told me probably a recon. I said if that's the case I would not except it unless the timing gear had been changed otherwise we would be back to square one and waiting for it to go pop again. And the mileage will have to be proven or I will just refuse it. no point in putting a higher mileage engine in otherwise it's already effecting the resale value. There supposedly contacting me at the beginning of this week to tell me what's going to happen but as yet I have heard nothing. I plan on going in tomorrow and insist they either start the repair change the car for something equivalent or I want my money back.

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Hi richwat thanks for the info. The Autotechnica guys seem to know there stuff. I was due to have a DV+ fitted at the the cost of the part, no labour. However my chain jumped snapped or whatever has happened before I had chance to get it fitted. I'm on my second loan car know from Motordepot and it's almost 3 weeks since it first happened. Things hopefully seem to be moving on know as my car is know back in the motordepot. I was led to believe that the Skoda dealership had diagnosed what was wrong but they did not know what it was as they were waiting for authorization to strip the engine. All they knew was there was no compression on 2 cylinders. But I don't think they ever touched it as no one still has any idea how much damage has been done to the engine. I think motordepot were deciding weather to ship it out to a vw specialist or do the repairs in house with one of there techs. This could still have some twists yet. I'm not going to accept the car back unless they can list which parts have been replaced and especially the tensioner. My fear is that they try to put a recon engine in it's place which could have the same ticking time bomb again. A repair to the existing engine would be preferable with updated parts. I've not been pushing them and given them plenty of time to decide what to do but decisions are going to have to be made soon. One of the deciding factors of getting the Octavia was the large boot which I need for work. I will keep you all posted. One last thing I notice a lot of posts stating high oil use just before it goes pop. Mine never seemed to loose any since I bought it. Mine just went without warning.

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Hi again. Well i had some good news yesterday. After initially thinking I would have to look for another car to the same value and finding nothing I liked I went back in to speak to the nice lady at the motor depot maintenance dept. She told me that my car would be repaired and whatever it takes to put right will be done. She told me that the bosses had agreed to repair it. Its just a case know of were it goes for repair. It has to be collected by truck from the Skoda dealer they dropped it off at. It's just a case of how long it takes now. At least I have a loan car till mine is sorted. Just so pleased I took out an extended warranty.

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Hi all. First post on here and not a good start. After purchasing my car from motor depot (Hull) at the beginning of June I've had several issues with my Car (60 plate 2.0L TSI Octy VRS with 57,000 on the clock when purchased) First off eml came on after about 10 days. This was quickly diagnosed as the charcoal canister and evep purge valve. To there credit it was quickly fixed even though I had to go back because one of the pipes was not connected correctly and set of the eml again. It was sorted and soon back to full working condition. For the last few days I thought I could here a slight vibration at about 3000rpm. I thought It could be a rattily waste gate issue. and would get it checked asap. Car ran fine and pulled fine. No rattle at start-up. Went to get in car a short time after parking up to do some jobs. the car gave a brief blip on the rev counter and then sounded rough as though a coil pack had failed. Car was still running but roughly so decided to get it strait to the dealers. Went in spoke to the nice lady that sorted the previous issues and explained my situation. This was already the worst week of my life has my mum had passed away suddenly 2 days before. I explained I needed a car. none were available but she would get my car into the workshop as a priority and let me know latter in the day what they have found. Later in the day I get a call to say the car would be sent to the nearest skoda dealership for diagnoses and they would loan me a car for as long as needed. This got the alarm bells ringing and I suspect the chain had jumped. The car arrived at the skoda dealers yesterday by truck as it would not now start at all. I suspect someone may have tried starting it and that finished off the chain. Skoda dealers told me there was no compression on cylinders 1 and 2. and it was totally dead. They were waiting for authorisation from motor depot HQ and one of there directors before they could start any strip down. After going back in today and explaining that if the chain had snapped it would almost certainly mean a new engine at considerable cost she said would I be possibly be open to having a replacement car. Although I Have had problems with the car I do like it and would prefer to have this one fixed as I need the boot space for work and they had nothing in stock that grabbed my fancy. I took an extended 2 year warranty out but reading consumer law because it was less than six months after purchase the onus is on them to prove the fault was not there already. When I first purchased the car I did ask the salesman about the tensioner issue but said he had never heard of any problems. To there credit the lady in charge repairs at motor depot has been really good.