Everything posted by wyx087
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the truth about electric cars
Different challenges, doesn’t mean they are insurmountable. On cleaning up hazards, how many times have major roads been closed off due to fuel tanker leaks? We have this wonderful infrastructure that has already been built for mass EV adoption.
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the truth about electric cars
600 kWh charged exclusively at Tesla’s peak rate 40p equals £240, plus £10 membership cost. Still cheaper than diesels. Off peak prices are as low as around 28p/kwh. Ionity also have membership to bring cost down to around 45p/kwh. It would be mad to not get membership if can’t charge at home and need to rely on public charging.
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the truth about electric cars
What is wrong with asking for source of information when it wasn't provided? Why do you expect people to do their own research? When you could have easily posted your source of information? Is it so hard to copy+paste your references whilst you are typing up your assertions? This isn't a banter thread. If you want truth, evaluating the source is just as important.
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the truth about electric cars
Having solid sources with each assertion will do that. Claiming computer broke will only perpetuate the childish arguments.
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the truth about electric cars
Based on the source referenced in that article, it was removed “on health and safety grounds following a review by the Safety and Fire teams” https://order-order.com/2025/04/30/parliament-scraps-electric-car-charging-points/ I’ve no idea if building is grade listed or there’s access limitation in case of fire. But those seem like valid reasons. Residential covered car parks getting more charge points seems like the right thing to do, after risk assessments. I wonder if they are also restricting Range Rover diesels from underground car parks? 🤣 Those diesels certainly seem to have a habit of destroying car parks.
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the truth about electric cars
That old chestnut. Source or get reported.
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the truth about electric cars
GOV.UKGovernment looks to slash red tape to make charging elect...Reforms will open up affordable home charging to thousands more households Newest government EV news, straight from horse's mouth. " The plans would make it easier for renters and leaseholders to install electric vehicle (EV) chargers by mandating chargepoints in new covered car parks and consulting on removing planning permission currently needed for those without driveways to install discreet cross pavement charging gullies, as the government bolsters its drive to make it easier than ever to plug in wherever you live. " Guess they aren't afraid of charging in covered car parks. Removing red tape on cross pavement could open up more possibilities for more people. Including those in this thread that insists they "may" get EV's.
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Is the worst thing about EVs actually the apps?
I've never had problem with IOG smart charging..... but as they say, never say never. You can also stay on IOG and only do smart charge once every other week when not mission critical, this is entirely within their T&C. Other way round is also possible, mostly smart charge with a buffer so it's okay if didn't work. Then switch to manual schedules for critical days. <- I do this, rarly go below 30%. Glad it's all sorted now. Once onboarding is done, hopefully things work smoothly for the foreseable future.
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the truth about electric cars
So true. Well put. And as with all things, it is best to have experienced it to fully understand. What's that saying? "Walk a mile in someone else's shoes"
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Is the worst thing about EVs actually the apps?
Great, so it works now? Done a test charge? Sounds like you are connecting to Octopus on the car rather than Ohme? If so, be sure to set Ohme to allow charging at any time for the ideal way to work.
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Is the worst thing about EVs actually the apps?
Hum, Octopus shouldn't need to link with your VW/car. You need to link Octopus with Ohme so that IOG smart schedulling works through your charge point. I've used IOG with both car (Tesla) and charge point (Indra). The car integration is not as seamless as charge point. Whenever possible, make sure to use charge point integration. When selecting charge point, Octopus doesn't need to talk/link/integrate with the vehicle.
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Is the worst thing about EVs actually the apps?
May be there's cloud problem with Ohme (or Ohme talking to Octopus) last couple of days? Problems with Ohme Charging | Speak EV - Electric Car Forums I've charged IOG smart charged Monday night without issue.
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Is the worst thing about EVs actually the apps?
Be aware that Intelligent Octopus Go T&C stipulates at least 1 smart charge every few months. So you'll want to get it working sooner rather than later. Sounds like issue is somewhere between Octopus and Ohme. Unlocking the car shouldn't normally unlock the cable. Reason is unlocked cable = stopped charging, this may not be wanted behaviour if you just want to get something from the car. Unlock behaviour could also be different depend on whether the car deemed charging has completed. Hopefully the manual will tell you how it all works. Unlocking behaviour is different by different brand. Isn't learning fun 🥲
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Is the worst thing about EVs actually the apps?
The Ohme help page I posted appears to show that the configuration need to start in Octopus app, like every other integrations. Unconnect everything, clear charge timer in the car. Start afresh. Follow the Ohme help page, go via Octopus app and select to use your Ohme charge point (when asked if charge point or car). Wonders of modern tech. Usability of many of those things are dependent on usability of the software. When I took cars for test drive at Everything Electric, the accompany person was surprised that I didn't care about his spiel on driving dynamics, but were more interested in screen responsiveness and testing cruise, other driver aids. Cars are very similar these days, it's the software that sets them apart for me. For second hand EV, app on-going subscription also plays a big role in decisions.
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the truth about electric cars
So the hardware is needed in the car. Then ask yourself, why would there be such hardware for all existing cars when there's no prior requirement? First, local substations receive 3 phase and distribute it, so houses are not on the same phase. Second, even if those boxes exist, they still wouldn't reliably work across all different types of RCBO switches. Third, again, where are the hardware inside cars? Remote access for diagnostics, is this anything wrong with this? Are you telling me wasting day taking the car to the dealer is better? How does remote diagnostics = remotely reading mileage? Time to start seeing sense. Back up your theories or dial it back. If I see any more of your theories, I'll start reporting your posts.
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Car Park Fires, Transporters / Ships, any fires, any EV,s involved or not thread, were they the cause just there and so made fighting the fire harder.
Why haven't you bought the merch yet? It perfectly describes you. But yes, some does look scary. Including cars that would burn down airport car parks.
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the truth about electric cars
Found Graham being interviewed (video is set to start, only 20s)
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Is the worst thing about EVs actually the apps?
Ohme. That's the app you should use. They operate differently to other charge point IOG integrations. But let's start clean, remove car from Octopus app. Remove any charge timers in the car software. Make sure Ohme is connected to IOG: Ohme EVHow do I set up Intelligent Octopus Go?Integrating your Ohme account with the Intelligent Octopus tariff will ensure you get super cheap electricity for any Smart Charging. Ohme should be able to connect to IOG and also your car via cloud to read SoC. I've only read people using it but not used it myself so I don't know the details. From what I can gather, you set everything (charge limit and ready-by time) in the Ohme app and Ohme talks to IOG for you. Octopus Ohme FAQ: https://octopus.energy/blog/intelligent-ohme-faqs/
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the truth about electric cars
Read your Wikipedia quote carefully, let me repeat once again, UK smart meters does not use BPL. There are north and south differences but all use wireless based systems. Oh wow, tin foil hat wearer here. And another WOW! Again, let me refer you to EV charging cable standards I posted earlier. You tell me how can a resister (PP) and a simple PWM signal (CP) do addressing and access a non-existent data interface to request a piece of data that is deemed not useful for charging and part of user privacy? The hardware to do any serial data transfer is literally not there on all the AC smart charge points installed up to now. Hum..... what are those powerline adapter things you plug your ethernet cable? Could it be extra hardware? You so deep in your conspiracy theories that you can't identify facts from fiction. You think fairy tales are more plausible than hard truth.
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the truth about electric cars
Oh, it's back to that now is it? Do you really believe fire fighters only used DLVA tool to check and based EVERYTHING that? They can't have simply asked the driver what fuel it used? Dismissing the conversion idea is what any sane person would do. A reminder, the truth of the matter is that a purely diesel vehicle started the Luton Airport fire. Diesel vehicles do start fires by itself.
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Is the worst thing about EVs actually the apps?
Wait until you try to use slow chargers at different locations by different companies all using different apps. For home, at least you have control of everything. Let's try to start as simple as possible, only have 1 thing control charging. What tariff are you on? Intelligent Octopus Go? What charge point? What car? (sorry if this was mentioned elsewhere) For me, if I don't use my Home Assistant automations this is what I'd do: I set charge limit in the car as needed, this is optional. I'll tell IOG via Octopus app roughly how much need to add and ready-by time. Plug in if not already. IOG controls my Indra charge point, I only had to do OAuth once during IOG device setup to allow Octopus to control the charge point. Since IOG can integrate with Indra, I've deleted the Indra app. Same for my parents with Zappi on IOG. IOG directly controls Zappi. They leave their car charge limit at 80% and plug in at roughly 30%. They don't even touch the Octopus app, leave it at 60%. Just plug in and wake up to 80% car next morning. But I can't help you with manufacturer's app. So far, my extended experience with 4 brands (Nissan, Tesla, Hyundai, Renault), only 1 is actually intuitive and useful.
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the truth about electric cars
No, you said: Which is saying: "data signals can travel on power cable" - false, does not work at grid scale. BPL articles all mentioned this. and also questioning: "isn't that how smart meters send data back?" - false, all UK smart meter are wireless. 10 seconds fact check on smart meters will find your answer. But you decided to post completely fictional way of things working. Hiding behind a "question" when called out, yet the original post was to not to question but to spread false information on how things work. This the definition of spreading misinformation. Then there's problem of you continuing to spread FUD despite I posted source of information on exactly what information has been exchanged with charge points. The fact is, not bothering to fact check what you write is very irresponsible. You are a bag full of social media conspiracy theory sound bytes.
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the truth about electric cars
Smart meter don't use power line, it is too noisy over long distances and the data doesn't go past some types of switches. Smart meter uses mobile data network or dedicated network, depend on your area: https://www.smartme.co.uk/smets-2#wide_area_network Again, look at my post regarding exactly what data is exchanged when plugging into charger/charge points. Mileage, vehicle registration are never part of the international standard. I'm frankly baffled by the amount of tin foil hat craziness you've managed to cram into a single post. If ignorance is bliss, you must be orgasmic.
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the truth about electric cars
I finally worked out, it's you! Corsa-e, then mini, now MG 5. Stop changing names 😅 Let's have a think, how does that happen exactly? All current smart AC charge points don't even have the capability to read anything from the car. Not even battery SoC. There's 2 pins for confirming amp rating, one for charge point and one for cable: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAE_J1772#Signaling So how can they report mileage? Then go have a read ISO 15118, this is the international standard communication protocol between car and DC charger or V2G/V2H. Mileage reporting is still not one of the data being exchanged. Me thinks social media sound-bytes are getting repeated without a thought/fact check.
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the truth about electric cars
Very true, that's why SUV are being made to pay extra, dis-incentivised. But SUV isn't really a category, so weight based make sense. Battery are the same regardless 800v or whatever voltage the final connection. All li-on cells nominal voltage is at 3.8v. 800v battery pack is just a different cell configuration. Low state of charge for 800v cars will also see power limited. The advantage for 800v system is not shown when it is battery limited. Delivered Power = V * I Wasted heat: Power = I^2 * R The advantage for running the system at higher voltage is ability to deliver more power at same maximum current. It's future-proofing for charge point infrastructure when batteries are able to sustain more than 5C, like some of the new Chinese cars. And for driving more powerful motors, such as that 3000 bhp 1200v BYD supercar. This need double checking the wording with suppliers. Some supplier stay on GMT throughout the year. I'm 100% sure Octopus and other suppliers using Kraken backend are using local time. So if the clocks move back by 1 hour you gain 1 hour extra. If the clocks move forward you loose that 1 hour. I've observed this in previous years. That's public charging anxiety 😰 I also used to get it before having full access to Tesla superchargers 😉