davembk

I have the 2024 I’ve got the 2024 190 4x4 tdi estate. I hadn’t read before how the 150 is smoother etc. I can see how it could be though. The 190 is a bit gruff when under a substantial load. I pull a small Eriba caravan though and it’s well suited and I can just about get 40 mpg towing it if concentrating and although this will be hard to believe were the dash evidence not in a photo, I got 82 mpg solo on a 120 mile mostly motorway trip. I drove like a nerd but showed it can be done. So that was in the 190 with its shorter gears. I guess the 150 would have given even more mpg but all the same I’m happy with the 55-65 mpg I consistently get solo on most journeys albeit still with a very gentle accelerator foot and crafty drops into neutral on gentle downhills that the car would stop on if in gear. Adding to this, Eco mode automatically sets neutral on those slopes. I’ve never driven the 150 but can see how it could be a slightly silkier drive. The 190 to me though is also a very docile cruiser.

I only ever get approaching 80 mpg on a journey of mostly free running motorway, but I can still get 60+ mpg on undulating winding roads. It takes a lot of concentration though, neutral down slopes (eco mode or doing it manually) coasting up and down over again, extremely light throttle etc, and it works. It doesn’t mean holding up traffic either, always pretty much up to the speed limits. And this is the 4x4 that’s supposed to be less efficient than the 2wd. I had the 2wd before and I never or rarely got over 70 mpg. If I revert to what I’d call normal driving then it’s down to anything from 40mpg to low 50’s

Good points but no, the motorway was straight and unobstructed. The bridge was one of the many I had already gone under. The traffic in front had not braked. I don’t know whether the car logged these alleged hazards via its sensors or via its road database. Every A road has countless examples of where minor roads cross but they are not junctions as far as that A road is concerned. The car wanted to come to a complete stop because it incorrectly thought it was on a minor road, coming to an A road junction, where in fact it was the other way round.

Reversing up lanes, this happens a lot where I live in the rural west! I was chatting to a friend who’s got a modern Mini. Apparently, one of the assist features it’s got is remembering in detail the last 100 or so meters it has travelled, so that if you need to back up, it will do it for you.

I’m just wondering if anyone else has had this: The car, unexpectedly applying its brakes when in ACC. The car is the Mk4 L&K 190 dsg 4x4 estate In both cases the car falsely thought it was approaching a hazard/characteristic which did not exist on the road I was travelling on. Case 1: On a clear straight motorway, the car braked and displayed the message…..” bend in road” This was when going under a motorway bridge so maybe the car thought it was on the road above which happened to have a bend. Case 2: On a clear straight section of A road, the car braked with the message….”junction ahead” It was where a minor road crossed the A road. So yes it was a junction, but only relative to the minor road not the A road. In both cases I quickly overrode it, and luckily, no one was close behind, but the implications do not bear thinking about. If it had only happened on the A road then I’d not be too worried as I rarely use ACC there. But on a motorway, I do, and so this is a big worry. I’ve called Skoda, and may take the car in. Strange one 🤔

Just adding that the car isn’t showing any problems.

I was told the same. It’s booked in for the week. It’s the 190 dsg l and k 4x4 if that helps. I’m a bit jittery because I can’t understand why it’s going to take so long, unless they aren’t 100% comfortable with what they’ll be doing and so want time in case of problems. Apparently it’s a complete software replacement, scary!

I have the 190 dsg 4wd estate and the consumption is pretty good. If I drive with no intention to save fuel I never get under 45 mpg. Most times however, in all types of terrain I average about 54 mpg. If I really put my mind to it I can get 80 mpg average, about 3.5 litres/100 km On the same trip, 80% motorway and 20% undulating lanes it went to just over 81 mpg That’s pretty good for a big non ev estate car. That was using normal grade diesel and not Ultimate.

Well the mpg has got even better! Even though it’s down to driving style, I think it’s still amazing that 80 mpg can be got from a non ev car this big, and, from the less efficient version of diesel

They really are economical cars. I’ve done over 80 mpg in my 2 litre Dsg 4x4 estate, and easily manage 70 mpg on most trips. More mpg can’t help but mean less co2 so realistically my car is a very minimal polluter. I’m like you, I drive conservatively and get a lot of fun from it (and money!) Yes, 80 mpg, admittedly on motorway but including 20% of tedious switchback 30 mph speed limit ridden minor roads. You should just be able to make out the figures 🤞

Ps, I didn’t take the photo, both hands were on the wheel!

Well it’s been just on a year since I got this Mk4 L and K 190 dsg 4x4 estate car. That’s been time to well and truly be able to compare it with the non facelift (2018) Mk 3 I had before. I jotted down a few things that I think are better: Its looks A bit more boot space Extra comfort features Stalk mounted gear controls Parking camera Extending seats Space saver wheel Retracting tow bar Rear seat drop-down mechanical remote control Things that maybe they should have kept but which aren’t there any more: Only one umbrella but recessed for two, a bit Scrooge-like 😭 No sunglasses holder 😭😭 No permanent live at sockets/usb’s 😭😭😭 No indication as to which gear you’re in, unless you’re in Sports mode 😭😭😭😭 Comfort Drive mode feels a bit harsher such that it is hard to tell from Normal mode 😭😭😭😭😭 I can live with all that! The rest of it: It does feel a great car overall, as did the Mk3. I can’t really fault this car just as I couldn’t fault the old one. One thing coming from both cars is the great mpg, I admit to being a bit of an mpg nerd but a car this big averaging 70 mpg over 100+ miles with urban included, you’d never think it. Reviews say mid 40’s for the 190 but I regularly get over 60 mpg and never below 50 mpg wherever I drive. So I’m a happy old boy!

Hi Woodsy, I’m still not fully expert with all of this but I can say that with ACC on, the car adapts to changes in speed limits. For instance say I’m in a 40 mph zone and set the speed for 38 mph, the car will happily maintain that speed, to the point of braking if a downward slope starts to take the car above that speed. Then say the speed limit goes to 60 mph, the car will accelerate quite assertively up to that speed, and back down if say the limit goes back to 40mph. I don’t know if it goes back to 38 mph or just the 40, ie the initial setting being lost but I’ll try it out next time. I also don’t know whether it uses traffic sign recognition or gps but I’ll look at that too. If it’s sign recognition then I see an issue when going to a slower limit, because if the car only acts when it sees the speed limit sign then it won’t have had time to reduce to that speed before it enters the zone. Unless it applies the brakes very forcefully maybe. So yes I’ll try all this out too. So many things still to learn and so far it’s all been pretty good.

That sounds good. My car is the Mk 4 Superb Estate 2L tdi 4x4 dsg I had read the mpg data before buying but knew that I’d get more out of it through fuel stretching driving. I was right, on start stop journeys it’s always mid 50’s On uninterrupted drives it’s always nudging 60 mpg. On a recent drive from Minehead to Reading, which involves a tortuous 20 miles of Minehead to Bridgwater road, I got dead on 70 mpg average. If I was lead footed then I’d wipe all that away and probably only get half that mpg. This car is a 4x4 so it puts to bed the notion that 4x4 cars sap mpg. My previous Mk 3 was fwd and achieved about the same mpg. I arrived back from the Lake District yesterday towing my Eriba Triton 430 caravan. Admittedly, although not minute, it’s a compact but fully specced caravan, and aero, compared to the average white boxes we see around but the 40.6 mpg was brilliant in my opinion, and again, included those undulating windy roads on the last 20 miles home, before which it was nudging 42 mpg average. So, like you probably, I believe it’s how we drive, not what we drive.

Hello Johnny, My Mk 4 193 dsg 4x4 estate tows an Eriba Touring Triton 430, which is a compact caravan weighing under 1000 kg. Whilst towing it manages around 35 mpg in all terrain but on big roads it will get over 40 mpg. I got 44 mpg from Minehead to Horsham on all sorts of roads albeit mainly motorway. One thing I do notice though is: The car sometimes needs to be brought down a gear when towing, say when in 7th at 60 mph on a significant upward incline. When this is done ie dropping to 6th, either manually or via sport gear mode, which typically holds onto gears, the mpg is seen to rise. So although generally, higher gears = greater mpg, the dsg sometimes appears to carry that too far and gets overgeared, requiring intervention now and again. So in summary, with a dsg 150 non 4x4 I am sure you would get around the same with a considerably bigger caravan. This new car is quoted at about 49 mpg solo but I am getting way way more than that, easily as much if not more than my previous Mk3 190 dsg fwd. It is definitely largely down to how it’s driven. If I’m heavy footed, which I rarely am then yes it’s mid 40’s but typically it’s easy, and extremely satisfying to average over 60 mpg, without being a slouch either. It once averaged just over 70 mpg on a trip from Minehead to Reading, at a good 70 mph motorway pace. I’m more than pleased with this car, knowing that it really does eke out the fuel, saving lots of money.