Lady Elanore

No it's the receiver. It purely switches the 'live' call for heat

The reason I put the receiver where the Thermostat had been, was because it is a simple plug and play option. If I removed the old thermostat completely I would need to get a decorator to hide the square hole on the wall. By simply plugging the receiver onto the backplate of the old thermostat you overcome this and save on the slightly fiddly wiring directly into the boilers' programmer-wiring at the boiler end. The only thing that needs to be done is a live feed needs to be added to the traveller in the receiver, so it can switch the 'call for heat' to the boiler. It also only takes a couple of minutes once you realise that it all uses the same backplate as a standard old school British Thermostat for the fitting (you are supplied with a new backplate if you wish to use that, but it only adds a couple of minutes to swap over anyway ) British gas chap serviced my boiler (not a euphemism) a few months ago and I asked them to check everything over, he said it was fine and that he probably would have done what I did if his house was configured similarly to mine

Oops, pressed the wrong button I keep hitting 'Quote' as I think the edit button used to be down there?

£50 for 4 hours seems cheap, although 4 hours is a ridiculous length of time even if they wired out your programmer. Did you make too many cups of tea for them? I know my father makes none stop tea and biscuits runs for anyone working in and around the house and doesn't seem to realise that he gets charged for the time it takes them to drink it. A week long job probably has an extra 3 or 4 hours added to it just for the excess tea! I say 'excess' as a certain amount of tea is automatically built into the builders invisible rider for the contract

I used the receiver/hub to reference an earlier post that said the receiver goes where the programmer was, as my programmer is built into the boiler and the receiver replaces the thermostat I previously had in the hall. I thought the post might be using different terminology to the ones that I have used in previous posts in this thread, so I modified my terminology to try and suit what I thought was intended in that post. I agree with your above description. For clarification. My receiver is a single channel that replaces the original thermostat (and it's call for heat switch) and the hub is the 'Hive router' that connects all Hive products to the web and hence your controlling devices.

Btw I believe Hive can do 240V (mine) and low voltage switching which is something that many systems can't.

This below is for Hive not Nest My receiver/hub lives next to my router (it's plugged into it and lives on the floor under my PC desk-I figured it would be best chance for a stronger signal in my cluttered office space) and the original thermostat is replaced with a thick cover which houses the switching relay for the 'call for heat'. It's not exactly flush to the wall but is about half the depth of the original Thermostat (I had a Drayton stylee one which looked like a robot cyclops - Or a Mr Kiplings French Fancy cakelette-if you know what I mean). With my boiler I simply leave it switched on 24/7 and the timer operation is done online with Hive or through the phone app. It avoids having to wire out the boiler timer which is a little bit more complicated than the way I did it. The actual thermostat is placed where ever I want it. I only have the heating version as my hot water is done by the combi boiler. For ease of installation with my boiler Hive was super easy. Simply remove front of Therm, add a live link, plug new switching plate onto backplate (same size and fitting ), plug in receiver/hub to router and put batteries into thermostat....done! Just a bit of online fettling to set the timers and add devices after that. If I had to do it again, now that I know what to do, it would take much longer to unpack the bits than to install the physical side of the system There is a remote Hub you can get that works with a battery back-up to keep everything working if you have a router/Interweb failure and can also alert you to things like breaking glass etc but I believe you still need the small flat receiver/hub connected to your router initially or to be able to remote access things like lights.

Having read a few UK reviews on the base 4 series model, it looks like the size is considered to be a bit of an issue. In particular the very long doors coupled with the girth of the car. It's a problem I have with my F82 model, so I imagine the M4 (G82) will be even worse PLEASE don't post reviews of the standard car in here (you know who you are) as the G82 is a very different car to the G22 and there are a huge amount of reviews on the base model, which would swamp this thread if we start to post them. We can all simply post a link that we can't be arsed to read in the first place and make sensible comment on.

This thread needs a re-title. Life without Ed and Ant should be added :( Looks like the show is coming back to the UK but Ant is staying in the USA Elvis, (who does the Dream Car thing with Mike Brewer) is taking over form Ant and I find him a bit dour to be honest. Ant is much more fun (and very easy on the eye ) Also it's amazing to see him working with a rotten body (a sort of super-Mr Motivator with a spanner - see what I did there).

Polo and Golf, Fiesta and Focus :( The exception seems to be chocolate, which is definitely becoming smaller!

Actually something I hope a website like CarWow will do, is a drag race between the old M4 and the new M4. Obviously the standing start will be a forgone conclusion, but the acceleration test they do from 50mph might show the old car as being a tad quicker. I'm only basing this on the fact that the new car is a bit of a porker and will also lose a tiny bit of acceleration as it's a slush-matic rather than a DCT Maybe the next M2 is the real successor. RWD, a bit lighter and hopefully with M4 bits on it. Oh and keep the cost down, you'd have to be mad to buy the current M2 CS, it's ridiculously expensive and not worth the hike over the regular CP version. Basically it's an M4 shoehorned into a shorter wheelbase and with a low rent interior. In fact, you could probably have got the (now discontinued) M4CS for similar money to the M2CS in the real world and I certainly wouldn't swap down to the M2 for that one. So can I have (please) a next gen M2 with 450+bhp, DCT and weighing no more than 1,600kg (preferable less, but that's as likely as Jeremy Corbyn opening a bagel shop)

If I could change one thing about the 4 series look, I'd do something about the rear 3/4 as to my eyes it looks a bit frumpy, not as elegant as something that long should be imho

Whoot whoot

I've looked at the photoshop modified front ends and I can honestly say if I had the new model I would not change that front now. I genuinely like it. From some angles it appears to be almost raked back like the sharknose fronts of yore. I would change the weight and size if I could though. It's a bit of a lump and I expect it will handle more like the Audi RS4 than the C63 :( Fingers crossed they don't turn the next M2 into a supertanker too

Thats a good idea if you are in a small garage too I once bumped my Octy tailgate in an underground carpark as it had a super low roof beam just above my car. I imagine a goliath like the RR could be a double problem

This is because you are not used to having a car with this feature. I know it frightens me when I hear that clicking noise in my Hyundai

I thought it was a face lift of the Hyundai Kona at first .... then I saw the price!!!!! Original pre-facelift Kona New Suzuki

There were M4 deals not that far away from that as they ran the model out.

I don't think I will ever get used to the size and weight though. It's turning into a right porker. Hopefully the next M2 will be the 'real' M4

I am embarrassed to say I am a convert. I like the big grills, but only on the M cars, as the bonnet scoops balance the whole thing for me. Standard cars still look weird imho

Very smart boots, but not wellies. People dance in wellies at Glastonbury

Oooooh, can we have a thread on 'which wellies' Aspman will get?

Oh Suzuki, what have you done https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/suzuki-across-toyota-rav4-based-suv-priced-£45599

There is an irony that future Queen 'Kate' wears these French imposters and that the Welly is named after the man that defeated them RR sounds lovely

Why wound't anyone want one of those