Graham Butcher

The BBC are carrying articles about the I Pace as well. Police ram runaway electric car after brakes fail on M62 - BBC News Man arrested after runaway electric car stopped on M62 - BBC News

Yep, which is the same as I said, 2 conflicting versions, both in print so in other words, you cannot really believe either of them. If there was any truth, how come the driver was not arrested at the time, he was allowed to be interviewed by all kinds of media and put his version of events? Even believing the date on a newspaper is taking a chance, I reckon.

Correct, and here is the proof, the car is 5 Litre V8 petrol.

Well, which ever way it is, it is going to rumble on for some time to come and if it is the same car and person etc who was trying to sell it, question is why did he buy it and why was he trying to sell it and then trying to get the finance company to reject the car? Questions questions??

It was the Daily Mail who wrote / claimed the ramming while the Bolton News claims they had to wait for the I Pace to exhaust its battery, there we already have 2 versions of the same event. I'm beginning to wonder here if this likely to another cover up similar to the Post Office with their faulty Horizon accounting packages. It just not add up currently, it looks to me that this is going to take some time before the real truth, what ever that is, is going to come out in full disclosure. Its in the links posted by wyx087 and stonekeeper.

Just been watching a BBC programme about heat pumps, Hydrogen, solar, wind, gas and nuclear power and also the national grid, some people say the grid is not suffering and only needs to be able to spread its peak demands out more, so the loading is more evenly spread out, but the programme tends to suggest otherwise, it is struggling, and it would only take for one of its ageing nuclear reactors to go offline, and we would be in serious trouble, these are already being and have been pressed into action for far longer than their original intended life and one already has a crack in one of the reactors. Even the heat pump programme that as and when gas boilers for our homes need replacing, it will become mandatory to install a heat pump instead and the programme claims that it will take us 400 years to replace just the boilers in the UK and at great cost to the homeowners net-zero is looking shaky already. BBC iPlayer - What They Really Mean for You - Series 1: 2. Heat Pumps

Hmm, don't be too hasty to condemn this man, there might be more to this than currently meets the eye. For a start off it is claimed that the I Pace had to be rammed off the road by police cars and yet the I Pace is not off the road, nor is it showing any signs of physical damage and neither are the police cars, don't you find that in the slightest bit odd?

No, ULEZ it is not and never has been a trigger word for anything and the Oxford scheme was, as I understand it, originally intended to be 100% emission-free zone camera controlled and fines issued for non-compliant vehicles with rather protracted long routes around Oxford for none EV vehicles. Having worked in the Oxford area I know how long those other routes are, and they already were extremely congested at times without having extra traffic thrown at them. So I'm guessing the local kicked off about the long routes and would it just make other areas heavily congested and lengthy jams so other vehicles are allowed but must pay a small charge instead. I suppose now the council have seen how much revenue it brings in so looking to extend the area and capture more income? I t is as simple as that, no hidden meaning or secret code words

Nope, 2 wheels doesn't do it for me, never felt any attraction especially when you all of these power mad drivers in the huge HP cars racing all over the place strange really considering my dad was into motorcycles, you'd have thought it might have rubbed off on me, but I side stepped that phase.

All true, all cars etc pollute, horse and carts do, even us humans pollute, but equally is it not true that our air is also considered to be very safe, especially when compared to the rest of the world? With that being a fact what is the real agenda for the UK? Incidently did you see that England is planning new gas fired generators to cope with demand for electric?

This will make some folk very happy I'm sure. Why don't they call it what it actually is then, its not a Zero Emission Zone, its really a glorified ULEZ where every vehicle will have to pay unless its a pure electric powered vehicle. Oxford is planning to expand its zero-emission zone - but what does it mean for you? | Regit

Top Gear special then eh?

Nah, they stopped making those in 2012. Used to see quite a few of those in London back in the day, dead slow and bouncing over the bumps and speed humps, like a cork in the sea.

What? You need 7 seats.

Wow, that is only 6.22m long, thought it was more like 7m.

Tallest car won't work, its only available as a petrol 😇

I did with the Nissan, only becomes an effective 2 seater then with a crap boot. 😂

Wow, brilliant deduction Watson, what are your proposals for people like me then, chop off my legs so I can get into smaller cars 🤣

I did 6 miles this morning in 1 hour 10 minutes, taking one of my sons to his brothers so they could car share, then back home, pick up the Mrs and her to the law courts were she works, and back home. My engine and as far as I can tell, many of the others not running while stationary so they could smell our tailpipes and get nothing. On a serious note, it would help everyone regardless of what type of vehicle they drive if the roads were capable of keeping traffic moving, time wasting and pollution levels could drop even further if some serious consideration was applied in that dept. You can't keep building new estates without increasing the support for them, roads, sewers shops, doctors etc.

These articles etc coming from the BBC are even if some don't like them, going to be the truth unless the government do a massive U turn as eventually even the most hardened die hard ICE enthusiast will one day have zero option, so they there are just stating the truth. But also at this juncture, U turn excepted, they have been manipulated into towing the government line.

What is all this Guff about UK being a rich country and lots of pollution, taking a look around at the state of the country today you would be forgiven for thinking that we were a 3rd world country right now with all manner of services on their knees and the energy resources struggling to cope with demand without the increasing load being applied with EVs needing to be charged on a regular basis. The country would be far better served if there was less corruption among the elites in society, and they were made to pay their fair share towards the services that everyone at some time or other, rely on. Yes I suppose if you take into account all the vast wealth that these elites have squirrelled away in offshore and overseas tax heavens, which are often attracting more interest payments in a day than many people earn in a year, then in theory it is rich country with the wealth controlled by a few. As to lots of pollution, has anyone actually investigated the truth instead of just trotting out what the elites keep sprouting? I said before, if the elites tell a lie often enough and the masses (the public) will believe it because they fall for the BS because its being fed to us by those that we naively elect to be the leaders and run the country because we still have not learnt from past history that our system is corrupt, and we lurch from direction to another depending on the election results each time, like yo-yo's. This is the actual live air quality map for today as of just a few minutes ago and anything in green is good and just look at the UK v the rest of the Europe and the continent, and if you bother to check it out for yourselves, the rest of the world fares even worse, we already have clean air and there less pollution as a whole. Not to sure how much longer that will continue for if we allow these elites to keep dumping raw sewage etc into our rivers and sea sides though, it's time that we as @EnterName said, had the gall to say NO a bit more often, the French do and they often have civil unrest and they get things improved. Not that I'm advocating such events, but as long as we blindly accept what the elites tell us, they keep the status quo going and it will be only the super rich who will have the ability to do things we can do today, while the rest of us will be crippled in our movements etc.

Thanks for the video, it helped, but according to my research the more tread the better wet performance and my Avon ZV7 tyres are rated A for wet performance and lets face it, we certainly have more than our fair share of rain. They are also low rolling resistance tyres as well but they come with 8mm of tread and I change my tyres at 2mm as a minimum and I have been averaging around 25,000 plus to a set of tyres.

Question, do EV's have less tyre tread on their tyres then? I ask because in the video link you attached, he talks about the rear tyres being practically brand new with tread depths of 4.7 and 4.9mm? New tyres on my Superb come with 8mm of tread and given that the legal minimum of tread is 1.6mm and it is recommended to change them at 3mm. So that suggests that the tyres on the Ioniq 38 are actually over halfway through their useful life.

Err, no the Dacia Spring will not be appearing on my short list for way too many reasons to list.

Not for the moment, but you never know what is around the corner, like I said before, never say no, and keep an open mind, if the right car came along at the right price blah blah....